Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

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By TWOSCOOPS

The Thomas Fire started one year ago on December 4, 2017. Since then, sobering wildfire events have followed, particularly in Paradise, where people died while trying to evacuate, some in cars, some who were on foot.

If you were absolutely unable to evacuate, are you prepared for what you would do instead? Are there solid evacuation routes and alternatives for every area? I'm looking for solid ideas.

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Always_Running Dec 04, 2018 10:01 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

I’ve wondered about evacuating Santa Barbara. In the event Monticetio was fully engulfed in flames the entire city would be required to go North. Lompoc wouldnt be a safe refuge because you could easily get trapped up there. I’ve thought about camping out on the beach and purchasing a kayak to staying afloat at sea if the fire approaches the sand.

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 08:42 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

The Painted Cave Fire started at hwy 154/San Marcos Pass Road in 1990. There were high down slope winds, and it was very hot, and low humidity. In less than 2 hours, it came down the Pass and jumped the #101 (like it did in Santa Rosa). About 450 buildings were destroyed and 1 person was killed. That area of the #154 Pass hasn't burned for 30 years. The governor, and many fire professionals, are saying they've not seen anything like this violent fire behavior before. So, pre-planning, just like having fire insurance, is worth taking the time to do. Don't be afraid.

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 07:57 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

No two fires are alike and different geographical locations with different topography and fuel types will not burn the same way. If you think a Paradise type fire can occur down here... well, conflate if you want to. We've had several fires in the past decade that were fed by high down slope winds and we've not even come close to the kind of inferno that overran Santa Rosa or Paradise. Different forest, different trees, different terrain and different fire behaviours. Might I suggest a move to Las Vegas or Spokane if you're really that worried.

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 06:02 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Scuba tank oxygen, used by Malibu guy who stayed to fight embers at his house. He said he took gulps of clean air from the scuba tank, smoke was thick, and he said it helped. Maybe you could also keep it inside your car if you are evacuating in a wildfire, anything to stay alive.

CoastWatch Dec 03, 2018 07:06 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

...your vehicle needs clean oxygen to run- In heavy smoke situations, gasoline powered cars stall and die- you're then next.

SBZZ Dec 03, 2018 01:28 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

You need 2 options, because you never know how much forewarning you will have: (1) if you can flee - a road to safety that is not shrouded in burnable fuel and (2) if you cannot flee – go to a nearby zone at least 30’ in diameter that is fairly fuel free (like a cul de sac or cultivated field) and if you are forced to do this, make sure you are heavily clothed. This is what it could take to survive in fire country.

Z Dec 03, 2018 01:21 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Fire season is over for this year. Flood season is getting started. Make sure your planned escape route is appropriate for the current hazard.

Potif Dec 03, 2018 02:15 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

The California firefighters consider 'fire season' to be a year round event now. The Thomas Fire was burning around this time of year. We still haven't had enough rain, and there are a lot of trees and brush that may not recover from the lengthy drought period, which will provide excellent fuel for future fires, unless they are somehow removed.

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 11:09 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Will the planning personnel and politicians approve an expedited and streamlined process for swimming pool permits? SB County mandates that the permit be available over the counter at zero dollars of cost?

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 10:53 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Swimming pools have more water than each water-carrying fire truck. These pools might save neighborhoods in the future.

Potif Dec 03, 2018 06:46 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Helicopters will also use their hoses to pull water from swimming pools to fight fires when and where they are available. It often helps them save time not having to land or fly to a source further away. That was why I mentioned having the pool cover off

PitMix Dec 03, 2018 03:17 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

And as long as you have a generator to power any pump you might have. In a real disaster, you are truly on your own.

TWOSCOOPS Dec 03, 2018 10:46 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Since I'm named as the poster, I thought I would show what I actually sent to Edhat. I'm not sure if editing is a thing...but here's the original I sent: The Thomas Fire started one year ago on December 4, 2017. Since then, sobering wildfire events have followed, particularly in Paradise, where people died while trying to evacuate, some in cars, some who were on foot. Do you remember that a woman in her 70s was killed in her car while trying to evacuate the Thomas Fire? If you were absolutely __unable__ to evacuate, are you prepared for what you would do instead? I'm looking for solid ideas.

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 10:30 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Attach garden hoses with nozzles to spigots and place them so that they can reach all areas of your home . These hoses can be used by firefighters (or you, or neighbors) engaged in structure protection to put out spot fires once the fire has passed . • Fill sinks and bathtubs with water. Fill trashcans and buckets with water and place them around your house for easy access by firefighter. • Close all windows and doors around your home to keep embers from blowing inside. If you're stuck there and it is too dangerous to evacuate, maybe you can put out embers.

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 09:53 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Distribute neighbor contact list noting homes w children or other frail dependents, and pools. Remain informed that with high winds it takes 10 minutes for fire to get from mountains to sea. If you live on Riviera or Eucalyptus Hill Areas you’re trapped due to narrow roads with only limited access to Milpas, Salinas or Hwy 101. Get City to designate evacuation routes. Demand no parking on evacuation routes and narrow public streets feeding into evacuation routes to make evacuation possible. APS, Barker Pass, and Eucalyptus Hill Rd jam with cars (Tea Fire) and therefore should be designated no parking except for temporary home service vehicles. Hope any future Fire is like the slow moving Thomas Fire where folks evacuate over hours and days. .

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 09:31 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

County Supervisors: Please get a map together that gives temporary Public Safe Refuge during wildfires, in case traffic is not moving. High Schools could be designated. Something like Westmont College in Montecito has, "shelter in place" and protect that spot. The hoses could be stored for regular citizens to help the fire department keep the Public Safe Refuge watered and not on fire.

a-1561442440 Dec 03, 2018 09:24 AM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Clothing that makes you safer during wildfire evacuation: —layered clothing, long pants (preferably jeans), sturdy shoes (no sandals or flip flops), long sleeve cotton shirt (avoid synthetic fabrics, which are less resistant to heat and flames), head covering (cap or towel), dry bandanna or scarf to cover your mouth (do not wet the bandanna); better yet, N95 face mask, and eye covering, such as goggles or glasses. Keep pets in carriers or on leashes.

macpuzl Dec 03, 2018 03:08 PM
Local Wildfire Evacuation Routes?

Polyester clothing will actually melt and stick to your skin, so it's best to wear cotton clothing if you have the chance to dress for fire.

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