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By an edhat reader
It really was a beautiful day in the neighborhood on Paseo del Refugio Thursday afternoon. Local flamenco guitarist, Chris Fossek, Santa Barbara born and raised, delighted the neighborhood with an exquisite one hour concert bringing neighbors out of isolation and providing beauty and connection,. Kyle Hollister and Ashley Woods Hollister were the neighborly patrons of this event which bought their neighbors a true refuge from the churning of the news cycle.
My god people – you can still be outside (just not in a park or beach now apparently) and keep your distance! You do not need to be locked indoors for then next weeks and months! You can go out front, wave and say hello to neighbors and yes, even watch a guy play guitar 20 feet away!
From what I have read, this virus won’t go away until enough people get it and become immune to stop transmission. That likely means a substantial majority of the population is going to have to get it before this is over. We cannot hide from this forever! Perhaps it’s better that healthy and younger people get the virus and develop immunity sooner rather than later to help build our herd immunity.
I know people caught overseas in this mess. They are horrified at what is going on here. and can’t believe we have people who aren’t adapting accordingly. So no you can’t still be outside – look at Italy and Spain. This is a monster.
Immune? There’s no definitive proof of immunity after contracting COVID-19 . Your comment basically says spread the disease – and let a lot of people die. Have you read about what has been happening in other countries, or even in New York?
In Italy and Spain, people are still allowed to walk out their front doors. That’s all these people here are doing. Sitting in their front yards while a guy plays guitar for them across the street.
@1:17 Yes you can go outside don’t be ridiculous. The virus is not going to fly across the street like dust or pollen. You can walk, run ride your bike whatever you want. Just stay away from others and don’t touch anything.
@1:39 It can be caught by someone’s breath. It can be caught by speaking to one another. Have you seen the footage of Italy and the people confined to apartments? It’s the “I can go outside and you can’t tell me otherwise” kind of attitude that will allow the disease to propagate. Remember that.
1:47 – Are you saying people should not walk out their front door for any reason?
@ 1:49 Where did I or anyone else say you shouldn’t walk out their front door for any reason?
2:01 – Not sure if it was you, but here are some examples of what you’re looking for: “So no you can’t still be outside – look at Italy and Spain.” (1:17) — “Have you seen the footage of Italy and the people confined to apartments? It’s the “I can go outside and you can’t tell me otherwise” kind of attitude that will allow the disease to propagate” (1:47) —– While you did not say don’t go out your front door, you are chastising those who do. Same thing.
@2:05 those were in response to specific statements. Please follow along. I’m all for thinning the heard – so if you want to go out and about freely (which is different than “going out your front door”) then fine, have at it. I just don’t want to hear any moaning about lack of respirators or hospital beds. I know someone who has died from Coronavirus already. From my business I have talked to people in China, Italy and Spain.
“So no you can’t still be outside – look at Italy and Spain.” – In response to going to parks and beaches
“Have you seen the footage of Italy and the people confined to apartments? It’s the “I can go outside and you can’t tell me otherwise” kind of attitude that will allow the disease to propagate” – In response again, to public places.
“I can go outside and you can’t tell me otherwise” kind of attitude that will allow the disease to propagate” – Again in response to public.
@2:14 Those don’t look like acceptable distances. They are actual sitting on the curb and in the street. They aren’t just outside their front door. Like I say thinning the heard is fine by me – and it’s a beautiful day out there so have at it.
The 6 ft rule does not mean “go do whatever you want as long as you stay 6 ft away”. It means “if you absolutely must be in public, staying 6ft away will lower (but not to zero!) your chances of infection”. If you have the space to be more than 6ft away, like here in the middle of the street, take it!
GENERALTREE – They’re sitting on the curbs in front of their houses, are you not looking at the same photo? Some are in the street, yes, but a distance away from others. Do you know everyone in the photo? Do you know they aren’t related if they’re standing/sitting too close? You don’t. I don’t. But hey, go call the cops or what you and everyone esle here thinks needs to happen. I’m going outside to pick oranges for my screwdriver. You all are getting nuts about this. Maybe you need some fresh air?
2;24 – in the middle of the street – Yes! see the photos? Some are in the street spaced apart. I can’t do this anymore. Time for some outdoor time!
How much time should we spend to develop herd immunity? A month? A year? How many of the folks who get put on a ventilator actually survive? I have not seen much discussion o f that. Is it as low as 20%? If it is inevitable that most Americans contract the virus eventually, then how many can we actually save by “flattening the curve? How many people will die as a consequence of the destruction of our economy? If we attempt to continue with this “social isolation” for months or years on end, the virus will become a moot point once goods and services become unavailable and civil unrest takes hold. This policy cannot be sustained for long. I certainly don’t have all the answers, but I think these questions deserve consideration. It would be a shame if our response to the virus did more harm than the virus itself.
Those questions have been considered, and the answer is social distancing and flattening the curve. The damage to the economy (since that is your primary concern, rather than human life) will be much worse in the long run without flattening the curve.
@Chip, read some more.
@1:47 Have you ever been to Italy? The scenes they are showing on the news are from Italian cities which are very crowded with narrow streets and pathways. Certainly not the same as California neighborhoods where sidewalks are 30 feet apart. Someone breathing on one side of the street is not going to spread Covid 19 to the other side of the street.
CHIP OF SB: “It would be a shame if our response to the virus did more harm than the virus itself.” ————-Sounds like you’ve embraced fully the “Don’t worry, this will all be cleared up in two weeks” delusion, as declared by Trump(et). PLEASE do your research. Listen to Dr. Fauci. Listen to Bill Gates. Read up and come to grips with the fact that life as we once knew it is now changed forever. Ditch the fallacy that our biggest worry has to do with the economy vs. public safety. It is not going to be “business as usual” any time soon. All we can do for now is starve this virus. Time is our friend. The longer we draw this out, the more we flatten the curve. This will only serve to benefit us all, worldwide. We need to get the best of this virus and NOW. Be a part of the solution. Follow directives and do what you can to stay positive during this momentous time in history. PLEASE——– do not listen to our increasingly unintelligible and ignorant President. Listen to Gov. Newsome, Mayor Garcetti, Gov. Cuomo and other governing entities who truly have what it takes to guide us all through this extraordinarily challenging time. It’s going to take time for us to come out the other side on this. Time, time, TIME. Best thing we can all do is to accept that fact and adapt accordingly.
4:07pm I have been to Italy. I have also been to Ontare road a little while ago. I watched 3 people, not together, struggle to get around one another on a corner at the stop sign. I have also driven past Trader Joe’s this evening where people were standing 4 feet apart. I drove by two beaches and the Rose Garden last weekend where social distancing was not happening. So maybe you need to take a look around at what is going on in your own city.
Sorry – people just aren’t taking this pandemic seriously.
Disclaimer: I love concerts, music, and gatherings.