Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

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State Street Promenade (Photo: John Palminteri)

Source: AIA Santa Barbara

The Santa Barbara Chapter of the American Institute of Architects is conducting a 2020 Design Charrette to Reinvigorate, Reinvent, Reimagine, and Repurpose our Downtown with housing, energy, and life. The Charrette will consist of design teams of volunteer architects, landscape architects, planners, engineers, and other experts who will apply their talent and expertise to envision a future Downtown Santa Barbara.

According to Architect Detlev Peikert, AIA, “This charrette could be a vision to inform the community for the next 100 years.”

Input is essential and the broader community is invited to participate. Complete the online survey and share your thoughts on the current Downtown experience. These ideas will help inform the designers as they work to solve problems and illustrate new ideas and visions for Santa Barbara now and into the future.

The design teams will focus on ideas for housing via adaptive reuse of existing buildings, new structures for “opportunity” sites, and development of our public open spaces. A few teams will review the entire promenade area in terms of flow, entry points, and supporting local businesses.

Please respond to the survey by August 2. Help us get the word out! Share the survey with your friends on social media so more voices are considered. The survey and more information on the design charrette is available at AIAsb.com.
 
CLICK HERE TO TAKE THE SURVEY: Community Survey
HAGA CLIC AQUÍ PARA REALIZAR LA ENCUESTA: Encuesta comunitaria
 

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SBCountyLocal Jul 17, 2020 01:12 PM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

"New vision" is code for: we are giving public property rent free to the adjacent property owners. Businesses might benefit in the short term, but in the long term the property owners receive a huge gift, the beauty of State St is destroyed with ugly patio furniture and vital services like fire, ambulance and police services are blocked by structures in the middle of the street. This "Charrette to Reinvigorate, Reinvent, Reimagine, and Repurpose our Downtown" has only ONE purpose and that is to gift public land and the streets to property owners and ensure that State St. is closed. We are beating a dead horse if we think the way forward it sot continue to chase after tourist dollars and low wage jobs that are offered for retail and restaurants jobs.

a-1595048431 Jul 17, 2020 10:00 PM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

Reinvigorate State Street by bringing cars back on the street. It was a lovely down town drive. The street drive by visuals tempted one to come back and explore what it had to offer. The traffic movement and noise gave it a sense of liveliness and animation. Now it exudes the aura of an experiment gone very wrong. It now gives off a haunted house vibe. It is inaccessible, all the prior street charm for a beautiful town is lost. Retail business is dead, only a few eat outdoors and the path from the kitchen to the outdoors is inefficient since no one dines indoor - therefore the tenants are paying for a lot of empty space. They are getting nothing extra with this new sidewalk space since they were forced to give up their indoor space. .State Street Mall did not work. The downtown merchants were right, they were long opposed to doing this. The usual street loiterers, now staring down diners or stalking pedestrians, continue to make downtown unsavory - closed streets or open streets. State Street Mall - DOA.

REX OF SB Jul 18, 2020 12:57 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

SC: I can tell you one thing: shutting the street down to vehicular traffic is NOT the answer. You really can't appreciate State Street's beauty by walking it on foot. Once the novelty wears off—which it's already on the verge of doing—it's going to be the same old, same old. Once people can eat indoors at restaurants again, there is no reason to have them spilling out into the street. When arriving by car, tourists hitting this town cold only see Anacapa and Chapala Streets. Not exactly our best views, the Courthouse notwithstanding. Without State Street as our showpiece, we are just another Southern California beach community. We're a small version of Long Beach. GIVE US BACK STATE STREET!

RHS Jul 18, 2020 10:26 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

Sensibly common: How to 'activate" State Street? How about letting the property owners eat it for awhile until they decide they are not entitled to such ridiculous rental fees? They need to back down and place a new fair value on their ownership. Then they need to price rent based on what the occupants might earn from that space. This means a reality check for hedge funds and speculators. When rents are appropriate to the income potential of the property merchants, restaurants, other businesses will come back and make the place a vibrant community (which it has not been for 30 years or more.

puppyluv Jul 17, 2020 04:05 PM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

Hmmm. Is Paul Casey behind this? Wasn't this his idea after he was running around in a panic for tourist dollars and free lunches downtown? (see Noozhawk) He seems to be hiding a bit now. We haven't heard from him since George Buell took the fall for the ineptitude and (for lack of a better word) corruption in the Community Development department. What say ye, Paul? Is this really the time for this to go forward, as we are still enmeshed in the Covid 19 situation, lack of enforcement of simple mask wearing on State street and increasing community/tourist spread? Our children aren't even back to school yet. And how about hiring a new architect for the "new vision? Not that Detlev is not a nice guy, but he is basically a fixture in the CD department. How about some new, but locally aware and sensitive ideas, in conjunction with Detlev? P.S. Did Paul ever take his pay cut?

Eggs Ackley Jul 18, 2020 08:21 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

Designing an elephant by committee....? Architects, engineers, and planners are not the solution to the problem. You can’t design and engineer away vagrants, empty storefronts, and landlords who don’t seem to care. The local AIA chapter’s track record over the past thirty years is dismal; let’s not throw good money after bad. State street phase 1-4, how many millions and what do we have to show for it? I’d like the AIA to recall this quote from John Field’s memorial: “ John taught all of us to think about the places between buildings,” said Rob Anderson, a principal at Field Paoli, the firm founded in 1986 by Mr. Field and David Paoli. “He’d tell us that what we do isn’t about precious objects. It’s about the things that happen around them.”

Eggs Ackley Jul 20, 2020 10:57 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

@SBWALKERS first off the city(all of us) needs to develop the political will to address the issues. Until then Pfffft! After that hurdle is attained it is simple:
1. Eliminate feces urine and vomit on sidewalks buildings streets planters etc.
2. Eliminate the persons responsible for #1
3. Eliminate the wastrels tramps and thieves harassing law abiding citizens.
3. Fill the storefronts via a non-use fee(similar to gas taxes on electric vehicles to fund road maintenance)No free ride for property owners who won’t lease or sell.
A class action lawsuit against the city and property owners is ultimately what it will take as there is and has been an absolute absence of leadership in this issue.
PS maybe bring car dealers back to lower state st. I don’t see any dirtbags hanging out near their lots. Why is that?

RHS Jul 17, 2020 04:30 PM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

Once again a questionnaire worded to obtain the results desired by the advocates of a position. This is not a neutral or fair device. Just like most of these 'visioning' processes it is written by and for the interest group that is pushing the underlying agenda.

420722 Jul 17, 2020 09:24 PM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

I’m all for reinvigorating state but that doesn’t mean turning into all luxury apartments, maybe upstairs only? I know some developers are foaming at the mouth to make that happen but Santa Barbara needs a downtown and a good one. People come for the beach and a vibrant downtown (at least they used to). I know when I’m planning a trip I like to make sure wherever I go there is a decent area for dinning, gathering and shopping, in other words, a downtown.

Minibeast Jul 17, 2020 10:33 PM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

What is the solution? I have no idea. But I do like the raging optimism shown in the remark "This charrette could be a vision to inform the community for the next 100 years.” Really? 100 years? At the rate things are going, and I mean The World Population Growth Rate and all that that portends, won't State St. in 30 years (as long as we're just throwing out numbers) be more like a scene out of Blade Runner than the alliterative "Reinvigorate, Reinvent, Reimagine, and Repurpose " proposed? (Re, re, re. Kinda troweling it on thick, there.) Okay, maybe I'm being the male equivalent of a Debbie Downer, but 100 years from now? 2120? Will the future a mere 20 years from now bear even the faintest resemblance to life as we now know it? I wonder . . .

SantaBarbaraObserver Jul 18, 2020 09:09 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

State St is far too long and businesses too scattered to make a promenade work for most of these busineses. Unless the city relocates restaurants, putting 10 +/- on the same block, its going to remain a mostly empty space between the existing places. Moving them to one or two blocks down near the water would work, but the city would have to work with private property owners and leaseholders and someone, would have to come up with the 10's of millions in costs to pay for the moves. In my opinion: We should not be gifting millions in today's dollars to private business and property owners in the hopes that it returns a few hundred thousand in tax revenue in 5-10 years. When the businesses fail, another will come and try their chances as there is demand. Then, at some point in the future, the big one will hit us and we can rebuild the area to accommodate modern life.

RHS Jul 18, 2020 10:36 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

In response to the question "How do we activate State Street" here is a thought: How about letting the property owners eat it for awhile until they decide they are not entitled to such ridiculous rental fees? They need to back down and place a new fair value on their ownership. Then they need to price rent based on what the occupants might earn from that space. This means a reality check for hedge funds and speculators. When rents are appropriate to the income potential of the property merchants, restaurants, other businesses will come back and make the place a vibrant community (which it has not been for 30 years or more.

a-1595115208 Jul 18, 2020 04:33 PM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

How about enticing a new group of tenants who have a successful business plan that can afford market rate rents; instead demanding this space be subsidized by the property owners the space as a charitable non-profit. Hate on the "greedy" State Street landlords all you want, but be glad they did not sell out to the lowest bidder and permanently turn this space into a sleazy honkytonk. Too bad the city tied their hands and forced equally unsavory conduct to scare away any viable retail trade. Two mighty forces at odds with each other for far too long - city liberal social policies versus property owners conservative business expectations. How can we get them to row together - for both fun and profit? City has the most at stake since a healthy downtown retail sales tax and sustainable TOT is critical to fund their own salaries and benefits. Property owners have more nuanced expectations and can carry or dispose of this property with more flexible outcomes. Ball in your court, city.

RHS Jul 19, 2020 10:40 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

4:33 pm--State Street was turned in a 'sleazy honkytonk' decades ago when the owners started providing buses to bring in kids from Isla Vista as their primary source of income. The Drunk Zone of State Street became the profitable neighborhood and the rest of the stuff when to trash real fast. Night time businesses, daytime tawdry.

a-1595181032 Jul 19, 2020 10:50 AM
Local Architects Invite Community Input on State Street Promenade

"Nuanced expectations" - you mean like letting the properties stand vacant for years and taking a tax write-off? We're not talking about a large community of building owners along State Street, but rather a few miserly individuals with no stake in the local community.

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