ScannerAndrew
By Scanner Andrew
6:53 p.m., October 4, 2021
Reporting incidents across Santa Barbara County.
(follow along in the comments below)
By Rose & Crown
Crazy lightning storm rolled in, I had enough time to take the drone out just before it got too rainy.
By Beverly C.
I have never experienced a storm like this one in my 33.5 years in Santa Barbara, 40 % chance of rain and a quick, loud WOW storm.
Photo by John Wiley
Here’s a pic to the West toward Goleta at sunset as the lightning was getting intense over SB.
Photos by Ryan Doordan
Here was the rain show as Alaska flight 2131 approached Santa Barbara this evening. This was shot with iPhone 12Pro max.
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By an edhat reader
Rainbow downtown
By Michelle C.
Joyful photos from Monday’s Storm
By MessyJessy
Lightning videos from my bedroom window in Goleta. These videos are actually in slow motion so you really get the full effect!
Ya! 777-
Better than disintegration of a topic by the same people.
Story at least had something to do with subject of the post.
Is EdHat serious debating whether or not this storm was caused by climate change? That’s soooo funny. Next, maybe you can debate whether the Dodgers would’ve done better this year if Kamala were still a senator.
TRANSPARENT – no, sadly, the “debate” (can hardly call it that) here has been over whether I am a climate change denier, despite everything I’ve ever posted, simply because I questioned whether a seasonal storm was a clear cut example of climate change.
Aha… gotcha Sacjon. Apparently you’re not a full ally to the cause. 😛
TRANS – oh I am for sure, that’s the ridiculous thing. I just questioned whether a seasonal storm is really a clear example of it. It’s like this – I’m strongly against animal cruelty, but when I hear of someone putting down a dog because it’s in pain and dying from cancer or something, I don’t jump on the phone to PETA and call it “animal abuse.”
and as always on this site………. reasonable down votes.
At one time, awe was the response to the profound displays of nature. Now one must be manipulated into climate change fears.
thanks for the pic. those storms are so fun, really enjoyed that light show last night
9:51 – How is this an example of climate change? Thunderstorms in October, while rare in SB, are pretty much normal. It’s called Fall.
VOICE – uhhhh….. “hurricanes?” What are you even talking about? And wow, you were quick to jump on this lol. But please, do explain to us how yesterday’s weather was a “hurricane” and an example of climate change. Looking forward to this one…..
Well, I’m always seeing our politicians running to the site of most recent hurricane for press conferences about how climate change is going to kills us all while using the hurricane as a backdrop. But our electric storm was extreme weather but not climate change? So confusing what we can blame on climate change and not!
Yes you are correct A-1633452664 as Science supports your comment…
With climate change, seemingly small shifts have big consequences
https://phys.org/news/2021-08-climate-seemingly-small-shifts-big.html
Climate change has been accumulating slowly but relentlessly for decades. The changes might sound small when you hear about them—another tenth of a degree warmer, another centimeter of sea level rise—but seemingly small changes can have big effects on the world around us, especially regionally.
The problem is that while effects are small at any time, they accumulate. Those effects have now accumulated to the point where their influence is contributing to damaging heat waves, drought and rainfall extremes that can’t be ignored.
Some ignorant fundamentally dishonest person doesn’t understand the difference between weather and climate, or anything at all about the subject of climate science. Global warming causes climate change, which manifests in many different ways, including greater extremes of weather.
VOICE – what in the heck are you babbling about? No one is talking about hurricanes. We had a thunderstorm last night. If you think what we had was comparable to a hurricane, I just can’t help anymore. You’re so desperate to make some “point” about whatever it is you’re talking about, you’ve devolved to nonsense. Time to pack it in, bud.
“How are hurricanes an example of climate change?”
I guess that the voice of stupidity, ignorance, and dishonesty has a broken “g” key so he can’t use google:
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2019/07/how-climate-change-is-making-hurricanes-more-dangerous/
https://www.edf.org/climate/how-climate-change-makes-hurricanes-more-destructive
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclones_and_climate_change
https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/
MARCEL – so last night’s thunderstorm was an “example of climate change?” I’m 100% believer in climate change, but not sure a thunderstorm in the Fall is one such example. I was questioning 9:51’s comment blaming this on climate change.
It takes a considerable amount of scientific research to attribute an *individual* weather event to global warming and the climate change it produces, so the question of whether *this* storm was “an example of climate change” cannot be immediately answered: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15092016/faster-attribution-studies-scientists-zero-climate-change-role-louisiana-floods-downpours/
MARCELK – I guess I don’t understand the point of your 11:26 comment then. I acknowledge they’re rare in SB, but so is ANY weather other than sunny skies around here. Not sure that actually, finally getting some rain and thunder (we get at least 1 T-storm a year) a week away from what is considered the “rainy season” in Santa Barbara is suggestive of climate change.
So SacJon, what do you think *would* be an example of climate change? What do you think climate change *is*, and how does it manifest? The answer is that there’s a shift in the statistics, with extreme events becoming more common. So the people downvoting my comment highlighting your word “rare” don’t understand climate science at all.
MARCEL – whoah….. slow down, I’m on the same side here. You make a comment using my own words to suggest I’m wrong, then break it down like some argument. I’m ONLY saying I don’t really think a seasonal t-storm is an “example” of climate change. Maybe it is, maybe it’s not, but saying “oh no, climate change” any time it rains during the fall/winter is a bit tenuous in my opinion. I’m surprised your on the attack against someone who is 100% in agreement except for a seasonal storm being “climate change.”
MARCELK – “”so last night’s thunderstorm was an “example of climate change?” — Did I say that? No, I didn’t. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t, maybe it was in part.”
When you said this, it sure sounded like you were saying it could be an example:
“Um, “Thunderstorms in October, while ==>rare
Most reports of this storm mentioned that it was *unusual* in some way. One friend wrote to me “That sounds like one of our central PA thunderstorms. I don’t remember anything like that when I lived in Santa Monica/Venice/MarVista.” // The fact is that global warming increases the water carrying capacity of the atmosphere, so it plays *some* role in virtually every weather event.
“So SacJon, what do you think *would* be an example of climate change? ” – Probably not a seasonal storm. Sure, ANY storm could be an example, but to use last night’s t-storm as some rallying cry for climate change is a bit over dramatic. I think it’s time to calm it down a little. I was only just questioning whether a seasonal storm was truly an example of climate change. Seems like you are trying to be argumentative.
“Seems like you are trying to be argumentative.” — project much? Lacking self-reflection much? Sheesh.
Are there any places where a changing climate would be a good thing, like a drought prone area getting wetter? Or a place that regularly sees extreme weather but now sees less?
PIT – I’ve lived here almost my entire life and can recall at least one thunderstorm a year. Most have not been anything like this, but at least a couple years ago I spent an hour watching one out over the ocean from Sandpiper golf course. Thunderstorms in our area, while rare (and so is ANY storm for that matter), are hardly some new and mysterious phenomenon. If there was a tornado, blizzard, sand storm or some other uncharacteristic weather event, I’d be more agreeable, but a seasonal thunderstorm just doesn’t seem like a freak event.
In 2008, a Temporal and Spatial Distribution of Lightening Strikes in California was conducted and found the following: ……”The number, density, and characteristics of lightning strikes in California varied in time and space. Annual variation in number of strikes from 1985 through 2000 was pronounced, with an over five-fold difference between the years with the highest and lowest number of strikes. Although there was considerable variation among bioregions in total numbers of lightning strikes, the annual trends were similar. In fact, bioregions were an excellent organizing scheme for distinguishing spatial patterns. Regional differences in location and elevation relative to storm patterns were manifested in the distribution of lightning”. ……..NB: Bringing this study up to date could indicate what changes, if any, might be documented over the past 20 years of “climate change”.