July 4th Cartoon

I hate the constant arguments and anti-social commentary we’re seeing here. I like that we all can debate points but most of these cartoons are just provoking unproductive me vs. you hateful computer “dialogue” of you know what I mean. I think it’s intended to be polarizing.

BASIC - which is it? Truth hurts or you anti-First Amendment now?

I don't think it's gullibility ... rather moral corruption, a lack of scruples, a deep fundamental dishonesty, so he cherry picks madly and declares an objective fact check "partisan" without even reading it and refuting none of it (especially the GOP Senate's own report that found collusion), while absurdly referring to Durham who was hand-picked by Bill Barr for partisan purposes but still came up empty, and refers to Mueller whose report he's never set eyes on and knows nothing about other than Barr's misrepresentation of its findings that even the very cautious regulation-bound Mueller was compelled to call out. It's not gullibility, it's transparently dishonest despicable deplorable behavior and the only people who side with him are the same. He lies by rote, which is why I don't engage in extensive back-and-forths with him like some silly people here; I occasionally point out his more egregious lies and then move on. Of course he will continue to tell the lie--directly channeling Trump--that there was a "Russian collusion hoax" ... it's what fundamentally bad people do.

Lying yet again.

LOL - You cant even spell his name! Obviously you never read the report. Instead, you just repeat what your talk show hosts, charlatans and demagogues tell you.
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Imagine being this gullible? Imagine spending your life trying to convince random strangers on the internet you're smart and educated but you never actually read or studied the very thing you're tying to disprove? Yeah, that's the path... Clown.

The DOJ Durham and Muller investigations disagree with you and that partisan ‘fact check’.

"The amount of misinformation and propaganda you continually post is astounding. Do you think if you keep repeating it over and over it will be true?"

Classic projection. VOLies has been falsely claiming that Russian collusion was a "hoax" ever since he showed up here, and regularly asserts such absurdities as "These days the hate it only coming from one side, the other half learned how to live and let live" -- yeah, Robert Crimo III has learned to live and let live. The folks at Jan 6 and at Trump rallies wearing T-shirts saying “Death to Liberals”, “RWDS” (“Right Wing Death Squad”), “Rope. Tree. Journalist. Some assembly required”, and all sorts of vile antisemitic and racist messages have learned to live and let live. Tucker Carlson, whose show has been characterized by researchers as the most racist TV show in history, has learned to live and let live. The people--including GOP members of Congress--who hounded the woman at the head of Homeland Security's board to develop best practices to fight disinformation out of her job with doxxing, vile threats against her and her family, the most horrendous misogynist attacks imaginable--these people have learned to live and let live. All those Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and survivalists practicing in the woods, waiting for the day when they are told it's ok to start killing the libs--they have learned to live and let live.

We oppose the right wing not because we are hateful people, but because they are.

"Russian collusion hoax"

ALWAYS LYING: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/partisan-claims-of-russia-hoax-revived-ahead-of-2020-election/

Chief liar here--their voice even--can't understand why he supports himself.

GT: Ginsberg (RIP) certainly knew how to stir things up and a lot of people admire him for a number of reasons. As for myself, his association, support, and membership with NAMBLA is what bothered me. I take it that you are okay that he was a card-carrying member of NAMBLA and that does not bother you and others, but for me.....er, uhhhh....just a little to "icky" for me ad no bueno. To be fair though, late in his life he stted that he was wrong to be associated with NAMBLA for all of those years, and flatly denied that he was a "chickenhawk" (gay male with an insatiable desire for under-age boys).

Under the World There's a Lot of A%#, a Lot of %&$#

a lot of mouths and $$*#
under the world there's a lot of #&@^, and a lot of saliva dripping into brooks,
There's a lot of #&#& under the world, flowing beneath cities into rivers,
a lot of urine floating under the world,
a lot of snot in the world's industrial nostrils, sweat under world's iron arm, blood
gushing out of the world's breast,
endless lakes of tears, seas of sick vomit rushing between the hemispheres
floating towards Sargasso, old oily rags and brake fluids, human gasoline--
Under the world there's pain, fractured thighs, napalm burning in black hair, phosphorus eating elbows to bone
insectiside contaminating oceantide, plastic dolls floating across Atlantic,
Toy soldiers crowding the Pacific, B-52 bombers choking jungle air with vaportrails and brilliant flares
Robot drones careening over rice terraces dropping cluster grenades, plastic pellets spray into flesh, dragontooth mines & jellied fires fall on straw roofs and water buffalos,
perforating village huts with barbed shrapnel, trenchpits filled with fuel-gas-poisen'd explosive powders--
Under the world there's broken skulls, crushed feet, cut eyeballs, severed fingers, slashed jaws,
Dysentry, homeless millions, tortured hearts, empty souls.

April 1973
(Allen Ginsberg)

VOICE supports the most neo-nazi far right garbage and always has. Always defending the proud boys, Trump, and the intrinsically most evil garbage of this world. but you do you. See you on the field.

"All are equally deplorable" yet only one promotes the lie of a rigged election and urged supporters (that he knew was armed) on to the capitol. Glad to see you stopped posting anonymous today.

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You can't understand yourself? That makes your commentary a bit more understandable.

Such a hypocrite to scream LIES, LIES, LIES at only one political party, president or politician. All are equally deplorable on this front, which for the life of me I can’t understand why people continue to support the liars that want to give themselves more power and control over our lives.

SBDUDE - which ones? Germany just overturned their post-12 week ban. Britain allows it unconditionally up to 24 weeks. Canada has no restrictions. India is unconditional up to 20 weeks. Even Ireland with its heavy Catholic influence allows it for any reason up until 12 weeks, with exceptions after that. Denmark up to 12 weeks no conditions. Netherlands legal up to 24 weeks no conditions. Sweden legal up to 18 weeks no conditions.

So please, what other "first world countries" are more restrictive than the US (which now allows the criminalization of abortions at any stage with no exceptions for rape, incest, risk to the mother, etc)?

Dude thinks it's important to point out that American women are complaining too much in his view.

Nope. Not the case. We are, especially now, much more restrictive.

Well, Coastwatch, if you think about it, and I sort of doubt you do, all flags are inherently hateful. Flags originated as markings to be worn to sort out who you were supposed to murder on the battlefield. They are by their very nature, separatist, divisive, exclusionary, anti-human, as they encourage and demand that people identify with one group over all others, which is obviously something that creates violence.

George Orwell was a socialist (and progressive). He was not your friend or ally.

" The indoctrination of our students begins in grade school " that is a statement from someone that is truly lost. In Florida teachers are ripping down rainbows from their classrooms for fear of prosecution.

Non sequitur.

Fascists always bedeck themselves with flags and symbols to sway the simple-minded who don't look behind the displays.

Some criminal acts are intolerable.

Brought to you by the party of tolerance…..

"Are we perfect no, but who is?" - Well, those countries that don't have neo-nazis and other miscreants running around with legally purchased semi-auto military rifles and that allow women to chose what happens to their own bodies are bit better off than us, I'd say.

"Tell me what other country you would want to live in. " - See the answer above. Any one of those.

"The Supremes rightly turned the action on abortion back to the legislatures, be they state or federal." - So, question for you now - do you truly believe a woman's right to choose should not be a constitutionally protected right?

Yeah..... maybe some people have a different idea of the "land of the free" than you do.

"Arguably"

By what metrics?

Personally I really dislike having to maneuver around the walking dead of mentally ill, drug addicted, and economically destroyed that clog our city streets.

I've been many places in the world with less money and resources and very few homeless.

Let's just start there. "Arguably the best." Literal LOL.

Mansplaining.

VODespicableness complains that he is despised.

"These days the hate it only coming from one side, the other half learned how to live and let live."

Lies as always. I could talk about "Rally for the Right" shouting "Jews will not replace us" and running over Heather Heyer, or Robert Crimo III murdering parade goers, or thousands upon thousands of examples of right wing hate, but what's the point? Evil people will continue to deny it.

"In reading comments on EdHat I only see hate coming from one side."

Lies as always.

Vor: *Posts abject nonsense*
Other posters: *reasonable opposition and annoyance*
Vor: "Everybody hates me!! Wahh"

Explain yourSELF. Almost every single comment you post is rife with "condescension."

VOICE - then you can't read English. Explain SBLOCAL. Explain LUCK777. Explain RUPERT JOHNSON. Forgot about that guy!

Yes, you usually have your blinders on.

In reading comments on EdHat I only see hate coming from one side.

VOICE - "These days the hate is [sic] only coming from one side," ---- good lord man, you keep doubling down, don't you? YOU ARE LYING. Have some darn dignity dude. You are clearly delusional to think there is NO, ZERO, NONE hate coming from the right. How do you explain the blatant acts of racism by your former president? The policies enacted to prohibit discussion of LGBQT issues? Right-wing domestic terrorists? Like what the fudge planet are you even on? Sure, there's hate on the left. I hate racists and people who defend them. But to say there is ZERO hate from the right is just a freaking JOKE and a LIE.

VOICE - "but it’s never reciprocated by [sic] the more conservative posters." - Voice oh VOICE.... how many times do I have to tell you to avoid absolutes? Your comment is now a lie. It's meant to deceive.

SBLOCAL - every single comment he makes uses "libtard" at least once.

LUCKY777 - every single deleted comment bashing minorities and/or LGBQT

Tried searching for more examples, but they're in the penalty box so it's not so easy.

Bottom line: To say conservative posters "never" spew hate (LUCKY77), condescension (YOU Voice, looking at every comment YOU write) and insults (SBLOCAL) is an outright, verifiable LIE.

VOICE at 4:32 - "spew hate, condescension and insults" - aside from MarcelK, what comments are you talking about? And are you seriously saying you never spew "condescension?" LOL! That's the essence of nearly every single comment you type!

GT - haha thanks! Nope, I just make it a point not to be on the computer during the weekend! I needed some outside time lol!

Sacjon must be on vacation so I'll regulate.... That is probably the dumbest statement I've ever read on this forum.