Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

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By John Palminteri, KEYT

‪Santa Barbara 911 lines were inundated with illegal fireworks calls Saturday night.

Without the annual West Beach show that draws thousands, the street shows took over for hours with aerial shots and explosives. Dispatchers called out locations in bulk from many neighborhoods where residents and their pets were upset.

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a-1593982971 Jul 05, 2020 02:02 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

The tinderbox dry Santa Ynez Valley has been experiencing illegal fireworks for the past week. Hopefully, the individuals shooting them off are caught & fined to the point it really hurts their wallet or checking account.

Pacific Soul Jul 05, 2020 03:29 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Land of the Free and Home of the Brave! Let Freedom Ring, one night a year. Thank you for the show across the valley.

Alexblue Jul 05, 2020 08:33 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Amen! I've only managed to get through about half my fireworks stash. I still have tons of Roman candles (my favorite), Chinese flowers, not PC, but too bad, LOL, buzz bombs, M500s, fountains, bottle rockets. Crazy how much you can get for 250.00!

I'm thinking about firing them all off tomorrow night--where do you live? I'll come by and pile them all up in front of your house and go FOR IT!

Alexblue Jul 06, 2020 07:45 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Hey, Pacific Soul, I'm headed over, see you at abut 9:00 and we will start fighting off my pile around eleven. Be sure and have a bunch of cold ones because there's no way I'm lighting off that many fireworks sober!

Shasta Guy Jul 05, 2020 05:19 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

It should be “Throughout California”. I think this is somewhere is Los Angeles ***. https://twitter.com/annielaulainen/status/1279648789242892288 *** This is Los Angeles ****. https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1279640455475605504 ***. This is in San Bernardino *** https://twitter.com/BrianLehmn/status/1279639816489975808 *** Another city in CA *** https://twitter.com/alfonso70131043/status/1279650663702556673 *** in Vista CA *** https://twitter.com/nickdyerfit1/status/1279643432453959681 *** More LA *** https://twitter.com/official_punzee/status/1279662876509171712 *** Richmond in the Bay Area *** https://twitter.com/dpi_19/status/1279648891336417280 *** San Jose in the Bay Area *** https://twitter.com/deblaz5/status/1279669282641567744 *** I don’t think there is much more patience for Sacramento telling us what, where, when, and how to do life.

RHS Jul 05, 2020 06:47 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

My dog cowered for hours. I was awakened again at 1:05 a.m. with these loud retorts. How can this selfish and dangerous behavior be equated to "freedom"? Do I have freedom to drive at 120 mph? Do you have freedom to sell unsanitary food? Do they have freedom to open banks without regulations? I don't think this is what the Revolution was about.

Minibeast Jul 05, 2020 09:47 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

RHS: I think you meant to write "loud reports." And I completely, utterly, whole-heartedly sympathize regarding your dog's suffering and your loss of sleep. We used to have noise sensitive dogs and would often resort to leaving town on the nights the 4th of July and Parade of Lights "fun" was scheduled. We have had close friends whose dogs were killed by cars, thanks to the dogs trying to run from the booming noise and getting lost in traffic. I personally rescued a huge black dog who was running for its life one 4th of July (a new moon night)----it's a wonder that dog wasn't hit by a car, too. For some reason, though, there are a great many people who don't "get it." They don't understand-----or care---- how the animals suffer (not just pets) and they don't care that the fireworks add to air pollution either. It's a damn shame there are so many heartless, silly people.

RHS Jul 06, 2020 01:02 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Minibeast, thanks for the nice thoughts. But, no, I did not mean 'report'
but rather retort. It is a word used to identify the sound that follows the firing of a cannon or similar weapon, usually when the weapon hits a target or explodes at a distance as do fireworks. I did look up the dictionary definitions which do not include this usage. But is is a long standing one. For example https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/mortar-men-cringe-from-the-loud-retort-of-their-mortar-as-news-photo/515209430

Byzantium Jul 05, 2020 10:45 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Take your scofflaw neighbor to small claims court if you have evidence they shot off illegal fireworks and scared your dog. You do have rights - no public nuisances and animal abuse allowed. Use the court to go either an injunction or a claim for personal damages; even if the police don't arrest them. SB Superior Court website has a Small Claims information page. Stop feeling helpless. But do fight back legally. That is what Small Claims courts are for - resolving citizen grievances.

a-1594042516 Jul 06, 2020 06:35 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

The problem is the sheer multitude of neighbors doing it. It was happening EVERYWHERE! I grew up loving fireworks and until the dog that I currently have I had NEVER had a pet that was scared of loud booming noises before but this guy was so scared and it has been hell, for a lot of JUNE actually and the past week was Armageddon to him. Saturday was unreal, with house/window shaking fireworks being burst from several parts of the neighborhood and my poor dog only could find solace under the bed with his blanket and with all the windows shut, fans blasting, white noise, tv blaring,... yet still it didn't stop the panic for him,. What a nightmare for so many of our dogs.

a-1594051416 Jul 06, 2020 09:03 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Byzantium, Small Claims Court is to recover actual damages. I don't think that it includes pain and suffering or emotional distress. It would include the cost of a vet bill or repair of the damage caused by a fire. It does not, as I recall, allow for injunctive relief by the way. And as people have to live with their neighbors it won't be a very pleasant year until the next 4th of July.

Byzantium Jul 06, 2020 09:29 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Small Claims Courts exist for these types of actions - citizen to citizen. They use volunteer judges, often have mediators available to work out issues ahead of time and are truly the way citizens can get legal redress at low cost. Small Claims are a public service and do not "tie up the courts". That is their sole purpose - to be used for these smaller matter resolutions, peacefully and cooperatively. No lawyers allowed. Yes, you can get injunctions. The current limit for damages is $10,000 per claim. Multiple neighbors can sue for the same offense, which collectively at $10,000 each has proven to be a very effective deterrence, when shown the offending party has created a public nuisance. Go to the Small Claims website and learn more about this important public service. Learn how to not misuse Small Claims courts - anti-vexatious litigant provisions also apply.

SBWoman Jul 06, 2020 08:02 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Relieved there were no resulting major fires. Let freedom ring SAFELY,. Fires destroy and damage too many homes and individuals.

PitMix Jul 06, 2020 10:53 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

apartment complex in Northridge set on fire after fireworks set adjacent palm tree on fire. 50 people lost their residences that night. Another nearby building set on fire but they were able to quench that one quickly.

ZeroHawk Jul 06, 2020 09:05 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

I really don't get what your issue is. It's July 4th. You all act like you have never known there are fireworks on the 4th. That just confuses me greatly. Neighborhoods have always done this as well. So has Goleta. It's been every year of my 49 years. So are you all telling me that you have never been in the states on July 4th?
That you had NO idea people would light off fireworks? Cmon now...this is a lot of premeditated whining and complaining about somehting you KNEW was coming. If YOU chose to not prep your home, your animals, or whatever, that falls on YOU, no one else. So stop skapegoating everything for your own short comings. I was out with my dog, enjoying the fireworks, as did she....

PitMix Jul 06, 2020 09:34 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

You really are stuck on the whole tradition thing, aren't you? Are there any traditions that you have thought about and stopped doing? I'm thinking the answer is no.

mtndriver Jul 06, 2020 10:01 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Zerohawk--Personal fireworks are not legal in SB, and haven't been as long as I've lived here (62 years). And there were more on Saturday night than I can ever remember hearing, and they lasted well past midnight. All the dogs in our neighborhood were terrified. We live in a fire-prone area. It's stupid to set off rockets! I'm sure you saw the carport fire reported in Goleta. You might feel differently if it was your house. Or your kid who got hit by a misfired rocket, or even a cherry bomb. Personal responsibility and risk-taking makes sense if what you're doing doesn't affect others. But like drunk driving, fireworks can do a lot of damage. If the risk you take doesn't put others at risk, go ahead. If it does, that's a whole different matter.

Victoria McClain Jul 06, 2020 11:13 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Fireworks on the 4th of July are expected. Fireworks in my neighborhood have been going off every night from 5:30 pm until midnight since the first week in May until now. I can medicate my dog and ensure I'm home for a few nights a year but every night for 2+ months is ridiculous. My dogs weren't bothered by it last year but this year they won't go outside to relieve themselves in the evening, they shake and hide under furniture and I have to close up my windows and doors ever night and swelter inside. My dogs fear and anxiety withstanding, what about my rights to a little peace and quiet and a good night's sleep every night. I jerk and get upset every time they go off...not so much in May but it's cumulative. What is wrong with our society that we don't have some consideration for others. I always enjoyed July the 4th but now I am dreading it because of a bunch of entitled, selfish narcissists.

a-1594079809 Jul 06, 2020 04:56 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

I've lived in this eastside neighborhood for about 25 years and have never seen/heard so many fireworks set off here for many days before the 4th and then on the night of the 4th from about 8:30 'til after 11 pm. I'll quote McClain, "I always enjoyed July the 4th but now I am dreading it because of a bunch of entitled, selfish narcissists." --- my opinion exactly.

PitMix Jul 06, 2020 09:32 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Check out the picture in the LA Times with fireworks exploding across the city. As a side note, air quality levels hit hazardous levels at midnight and stayed there until 8am the next morning. But as long as the pyros were able to scratch their itch, I guess it doesn't matter.

a-1594053526 Jul 06, 2020 09:38 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Fireworks are currently illegal in Santa Barbara - negligence per se can apply to anyone who violates this law. Therefore, proof of damages may not be necessary. The act alone suffices as presumption of guilt. Burden of proof then falls on the violator to prove their acts did not cause any damage. Get the law changed if you want to participate in this activity. Limit fireworks to a predictable time, place and manner to make this a win-win for all concerned. But do this legally; not in defiance of neighbors reasonable sensibilities. 6pm to midnight is not a reasonable accommodation, when there is indisputable evidence of the harm this does to family pets as well as quiet enjoyment of surrounding areas. Who knows what this does to other living critters that also reside in our downtown area. Burden on the violator to prove their acts do not harm our down town wild fauna. May we bring more balance into personal responsibility versus personal liberties.

a-1594076180 Jul 06, 2020 03:56 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

9:38 - Not necessarily negligence per se if you light off a firework. The law is never that cut and dry. You're throwing a lot of legal jargon around there (time, place and manner - con law, burden - crim, neg. per se - civil lit., etc..) so I would assume you know that, or else you found some Nolo guides ;)

EricL Jul 06, 2020 10:05 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

I hate that people felt compelled to buy fireworks and use them illegally. Contrary to what people here are saying, that's not been nearly as big a thing in the past. People get plenty of enjoyment watching the 30 minute city extravaganza. As for people pooping on the tradition of fireworks in general, they seem to think we won this nation in a game of Yahtzee. If you can't stand that, the United States and her traditions, please move to another country. We got hundreds of thousands of Mexicans and Central Americans dying (literally in some cases) to replace you.

LCP112233 Jul 06, 2020 10:44 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

It may not have been as bad if the city did not cancel the fireworks display. New York has several fabulous displays. I could see this coming from a mile away. We enjoyed the shows from a short hike up a hill. Oddly enough, the dog was sleeping at home and not bothered by any of it. Happy Birthday America!

a-1594074386 Jul 06, 2020 03:26 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

The NY fireworks were shot over a series of days, mostly in the commercial downtown, taped and rebroadcast. They didn't go on and on and on day after day, all over NY.

LCP112233 Jul 06, 2020 03:59 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

At least they had something to watch. That's what I'm saying. Don't cancel the fireworks!! BTW.....a series of days = day after day.

sacjon Jul 06, 2020 04:04 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

LCP - right? I was saying this from the get go - no need to cancel fireworks. Just close the beaches (as they did anyway), but allow the show to go on. If anyone was surprised that people still shot off fireworks (and way more than they would have if there was a show), then that's on them. It would be absolutely absurd, and un-American, to have a 100% firework-less Independence Day!

a-1594058233 Jul 06, 2020 10:57 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

RE small claims court jurisdiction. Currently the Small Claims Court has authority to issue injunctive relief only in cases where the Legislature has said it may. I don't think such authority exists in this area (i.e., ordering someone not to set off illegal fireworks or explosive devices). Maybe there is a more general permission to order someone not to disturb the peace of the neighborhood?

El Barbareno Jul 06, 2020 11:13 AM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Hilarious - "illegal" fireworks...how dare anyone use "illegal" fireworks! Damn those scofflaw bastards! Meanwhile ... running stop signs, speeding, running red lights, using cell phones while driving, turning left onto Foothill from Duncan, using left hand turn lanes as passing lanes, driving under the influence, passing across double yellow lines, turning onto a street while pedestrians are still in the crosswalk and sooo much more is "illegal" yet accepted as standard operating procedure - it would appear - by most Santa Barbarans.

Mas Gaviota Jul 06, 2020 12:07 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

EL BARBARENO, you are the history guy, right? You usually have thoughtful posts and comments. This one is as lame as it gets. You sound rightful upset that locals flaunt traffic laws and that is somehow a justification for people to break the longstanding local laws against possessing and using fireworks. Those laws are much like the ones that prohibit public defecation. Are you OK with someone dropping a dos in front of your casa?

RHS Jul 06, 2020 01:07 PM
Illegal Fireworks Sparked Throughout Town

Classic Trump "but what about" distraction from their sins and corruption. How it ever became an argument that one can do wrong and excuse it by pointing to others doing other wrongs is beyond my upbringing. ("Two wrongs do not make a right.")

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