How to Deter Vandals

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There is an unruly group of kids on bikes (junior high age?) vandalizing and causing trouble on the Eastside. I've seen them yelling, riding down Cota in the middle of the street, stopping to urinate on bushes, and congregating in front of one of their houses in the 600 block of N Voluntario.

The past month they've been riding around throwing rocks at cars and houses. This has been reported to the police again and again. One neighbor on Voluntario and Montecito street has been repeatedly targeted. Yesterday he says they caused $1000 in damage to their cars. The police didn't even respond.

Do you have any suggestions? Why won't the police respond?


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Ahlia Jan 23, 2020 09:39 AM
How to Deter Vandals

The police can't be bothered with this ? ...Yet I got a lecture and threat of ticket for getting caught in the rain on State St and quickly & safely crossing to the other side "NOT" at the crosswalk... I explained that there were zero cars in either direction. So why was he stopping me ? Because he was sitting on a coffee shop patio & it was all too easy to power trip on a woman.

a-1582049612 Jan 23, 2020 10:27 AM
How to Deter Vandals

Were you being "snippy" with the cop? Snippiness = you lose.

sacjon Jan 23, 2020 09:38 AM
How to Deter Vandals

Some folks seem to think if it's under $950, it's no longer a "crime" in CA. That is flat out wrong. It IS a crime, it's just not a felony. It still gets prosecuted, just as a misdemeanor. Jeez folks.... try reading. https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm

420722 Jan 22, 2020 08:11 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Deter vandals? In California? You don’t, they have rights than you have.

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 07:22 PM
How to Deter Vandals

600 N. Voluntario St is within the jurisdiction of Beat 1. Our current Beat Coordinator is Officer Craig Burleigh, [email protected], 805-897-2490-------------------------------- Start keeping a detailed record now, if you haven't already. Descriptions of the perps, the address where you've seen them hanging out, days and times of incidents. Then: Get at least one other neighbor to join with you. Call Craig Burleigh at the above phone #. Each neighborhood has a beat officer. Yours is Beat 1. Ask to be connected to your Beat Officer. Once you have reached the Beat 1 Beat Officer, state that multiple calls to SBPD have resulted in zero enforcement. Plead your case clearly and politely. Don't get caught up, don't ramble on. I will be surprised if your Beat Officer doesn't have a solution to this problem.

Roger Jan 23, 2020 10:27 AM
How to Deter Vandals

The past two days I have heard Officer Burleigh doing premises checks in many places mostly the East Side. also a foot patrol on a block he is not lazy in his duties.

sbsweetpea Jan 22, 2020 06:16 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Lots of things you could try not sure if they will help but can't hurt. Send the video to Keyt. Also send it to the principals of the Junior High and High School in the area. Post on Nextdoor.com, get together with other neighbors in the area. I would also send the video and email to your new council member Alejandra Gutierrez here is the link: https://www.santabarbaraca.gov/contact/council/algutierrez/default.asp

lokelyokel Jan 22, 2020 08:45 PM
How to Deter Vandals

I am saddened to admit you are right in this approach. Folks just used to do the right thing...now, unless there's a Vegas blinking sign calling public attention to it, it goes unnoticed.

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 05:16 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Put a sign in front of your house that says "Library"....

Roger Jan 22, 2020 03:30 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Such a bummer people work hard for their money just trying to survive here and there are these kids just taking their money away by vandalizing their things. I heard those calls several times in the past couple weeks then nothing I figured they got bored and went on to doing other things.. If you get some good lighting in the area you might be able to get a clear shot on camera of the vandals figure out who their parents are and get legal that way...What would I do? I don't know what I would do besides calling the police they are kids. This is one of the reasons why I am for the Guardian Angels coming here...

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 02:48 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Find their parents and sue them. COnfront them. Confront these vandals too.

PitMix Jan 23, 2020 08:55 AM
How to Deter Vandals

The kind of advice a person gives who has never tried it.

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 07:10 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Find the parents and sue them? If the kids know where you live, this probably isn't the best option.

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 01:35 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Our neighbor caught them on video. It's not clear, but it gives you an idea..

Coolio Jan 22, 2020 01:34 PM
How to Deter Vandals

A stand your ground law in CA would help. So if you peacefully confront one of those punks you can properly defend yourself if attacked.

Z Jan 22, 2020 01:44 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Oh hell yes, stand yer ground. Getcha some paint spray cans and some rocks, maybe some sticks too.

d8vanilla Jan 22, 2020 01:14 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Pellet guns.... cameras...... spike strips....... attack dogs......powerful water guns......blow horns......armed security guards...........net traps.........play classical music really loud............forget it.... just move to a nicer hood. Nothing you can do, without some repercussions

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 12:44 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Why do you have to make this political??

a-1582049612 Jan 23, 2020 09:04 AM
How to Deter Vandals

You are absolutely correct. It boils down to politics and liberal policies slapping the wrists of criminals......early release, crimes under $950 not being prosecuted. I miss the days when little shits like this got their asses kicked. Hope you liberals enjoy the toxic environments you’ve created.

mattyboy Jan 22, 2020 04:12 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Your head is in the sand if you don't think it's the result of liberal ideologies AKA politics

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 01:02 PM
How to Deter Vandals

12:44 - when they have nothing constructive or helpful to say, they resort to politics.

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 10:29 PM
How to Deter Vandals

These kids are doing their deeds in the evening, or on weekends/holidays. And there are adults around letting them do it (I've seen them). And looking at the size of the kids, I would guess that they go to Franklin- not all in junior high. You can't blame the lack of after school programs over there!

LCP112233 Jan 22, 2020 02:23 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Mattboy. So true. I looked up some of these new "laws" in CA I heard about, and they are true and ridiculous. The police don't have to prosecute anyone with less than $900 in damages anymore. Criminals are in the know on the latest and greatest laws. The list goes on and on. No time to look up and post websites because I am too busy working my menial job that the guys may or may not make more than me. (so don't ask me to site references anyone, look it up yourselves).

GeneralTree Jan 22, 2020 01:35 PM
How to Deter Vandals

You can thank wing nuts for cutting out arts, music - and after school programs that would keep them off the streets.

SantaBarbaraObserver Jan 22, 2020 12:25 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Call KEYT. Once its on the news, the police will respond.

EMI Photo Jan 22, 2020 12:09 PM
How to Deter Vandals

documenting it is a good first step, if possible on video. If everyone in the neighborhood knows who they are they'll be less likely to act out than if they think they're invisible.

Chip of SB Jan 22, 2020 12:08 PM
How to Deter Vandals

I think those vandals are effectively above the law in 21st century Santa Barbara. I don't think there is anything you can do to deter them, let alone stop them. Is moving to a different area a viable option?

millimesa Jan 22, 2020 12:01 PM
How to Deter Vandals

I think i i saw this group Monday riding down Milpas from De La Guerra knocking over 20+ traffic cones.

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 02:02 PM
How to Deter Vandals

Millimesa, It's probably the same same kids- a group of kids on bikes is an unusual sight on these busy streets, especially a disorderly one as you describe.

AdamVant Jan 22, 2020 11:32 AM
How to Deter Vandals

How to deter vandals? Ask Michael Fay.

a-1582049612 Jan 22, 2020 10:26 AM
How to Deter Vandals

It's time to contact the Chief of Police directly along with the SB City Council & SB Supervisor who represents that area of town. It's also time to video & take still pictures and submit them to the authorities too. Maybe even contact the local jr. High & High School in the area. Don't roll over & be satisfied with no action at the current level.

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