How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

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SBCC wants more student housing built: 55% of 16,000 students come from outside of SBCC District Service Boundaries. (On Thursday, 4/11 Trustee Agenda at 4p: Request from Donors) SB City is adding more Housing in response to CA State Mandates to build, and in to respond to employee Housing needs. An estimate 4,000 additional units. Infrastructure is inadequate in Santa Barbara. As experienced when 101 closes, safety and delivery of survival supplies is an issue. What is SB’s carrying capacity? Who gets the additional housing units: students, workers, or both? Can SB accommodate 10,000 more housing units than currently exits?

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a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 09:43 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

Anywhere else in this country, community colleges are just that - community colleges. No housing. Students are for the most part, local, drive to and from campus and live at home. I rented a studio once, the downstairs part of the house (separate) was SBCC out of town/county students - and here I was a local, going to work every day, and they created nothing but problems and the LL catered to them. She was also an SBCC faculty so that is probably why. On Meigs Road. It was nice at first until she catered solely to them - and ALL of them out of county, far far out of county.. Yet we have that one Trustee who just worries about the stupid pledge of allegiance. SBCC needs to stop this - their own faculty / staff are biased b/c many own rental housing that they want to rent and make $$$ from these out of town/county students. ENOUGH.

a-1568851879 Apr 12, 2019 08:50 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

Good point! People wonder what’s causing our housing crisis??? 5 rentals on our short block ( and I mean short) all rent to SBCC students. Three ADU’s just completed promptly rented out to out of state SBCC students. Wait, wrong - one of those is an AirBnb. Hmmmmm.... Anyway, SBCC is a vacation resort for non regional “students” my friends. With a 45% graduation rate that’s pretty obvious.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 09:45 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

I'll also add - I think one of the reasons this LL liked to rent to SBCC out of county student is b/c their parents paid the rent so it was guaranteed and they are more easily controlled. So blame some of these LL's too.

Bene Apr 11, 2019 03:49 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

I very much agree with the comment about the geologist's opinion. But it doesn't even take an educated opinion, just logic, to figure out that Santa Barbara's unique topography imposes limits on the amount of population that can safely be crammed into a narrow, bowl shaped area between high mountains and ocean. There is only one road in and out--101--not even any frontage roads etc. that go much distance. Hard to evacuate in emergency, and limited space. Many other factors also limit the extent and places that houses should be built, including areas hard to defend from fires, and areas on unstable earth. (places like Colorado are built on solid granite that never slides, unlike California coast ) I know lots of people who loved SB are now wanting to leave.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 02:22 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

This is what is on the board agenda: 7.5 Proposal to Survey SBCC Students, Staff and Faculty on current Housing "proposal to survey" - everybody needs to stop jumping to conclusions and getting facts wrong.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 02:24 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

My formatting got screwed up: "7.5 Proposal to Survey SBCC Students, Staff and Faculty on current Housing" is what is on the board agenda

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 12:00 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

I think the OP's message contains inaccurate information. Today's Board agenda may be viewed here: https://www.boarddocs.com/ca/sbcc/Board.nsf/vpublic

CelesteBarber Apr 11, 2019 09:31 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

There's a reason they're called "community colleges": Because the 2-year institution was intended to serve the LOCAL community. That's why the Board of Trustees are elected from within the respective colleges' boundaries. And also why, we vote on local bonds to further support the CC in our own jurisdiction. Did you know that the majority of SBCC students come to us from Los Angeles and the Bay Area? There are 115 public community colleges in our state, including excellent schools in both those places. When their students choose to come here, as opposed to remain in their hometowns, they are displacing our local workers, families, and also UCSB students out in IV. The added impact is to further increase rents for those least able to afford the already high cost of housing along the South Coast. There's also this: the proposed student housing survey will very broadly define "insecure housing" to include those who have month-to-month leases. Heck, that's most of the renters living here! Can you see the latitude this gives those behind the survey? Become involved in our local college by letting the 7 trustees know what YOU think. You voted for them, so make them accountable. If you can, attend today's Board of Trustees meeting to speak to Item 7.5: "Proposal to Survey SBCC Students, Staff and Faculty on Current Housing." When: Thursday, April 11th, 4:00 PM. Where: Room A-211, second floor of the Administration Building on East Campus. (Parking below by the stadium; West Campus lot; or walk up from Pershing Park by the tennis courts.) If you cannot attend the meeting, watch it online: Go to the Board of Trustees homepage via the SBCC website. But right now: EMAIL THE TRUSTEES. Send them a letter expressing your position on additional housing for SBCC students. Here's their addresses: jabboud@sbcc.edu; mscroninger@sbcc.edu; vggallardo@sbcc.edu; haslund@sbcc.edu; rmiller6@sbcc.edu; cnielsen2@sbcc.edu; klparker1@pipeline.sbcc.edu.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 09:24 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

When affordable housing was built for SBCC faculty at Santa Fe Place, no faculty actually took advantage of the deal. They opened it up to anyone who could qualify for 'affordable' under the City's standard.

Flicka Apr 11, 2019 09:23 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

I think out of town/state/country students pay a fairly high price at SBCC. The upside might be that is how the college is able to give free tuition to local students, many who wouldn't be able to go there without it.

oops Apr 11, 2019 09:03 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

does anyone know what SB Mayor's position is? has her office released a statement? does she care?

PitMix Apr 11, 2019 09:02 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

Unless we change the state law, we are required to allow SBCC to grow as large as they want. Building housing is then the only way to minimize the impact of the numbers of students on our town. Too bad there isn't another location where they could move to. That property along the waterfront is probably worth billions.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 08:20 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

This is a two year community college!!! Not a university. Housing and the “no car rule” for freshman should not be part of this picture!

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 08:05 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

1554994301 - why not a high rise at SBCC , like you’d expect on the East Cosdt? This is CA where we have 114- community 2-year colleges to serve every resident near their home for the student to live at home with their family. Only 11 campuses have a travel distance of more than 60 miles to justify a dorm. (College of Siskiyou in Weed is one example). We don’t do high rises in SB County. The first 7-story was the Granda Bldg; the next was the Prudential Bldg (a retirement home) in Isla Vista that became “Francisco Torres student housing” after seniors chose to remain in SB. The developer had to buy the Fire Truck to gain project approval because there wasn’t one with a ladder to access the height! This is a beach community. A lifestyle sought by many at a cost. I vote for NO student housing. Shame on City Council (except for a Randy Rowse) for prioritizing foreign and those coming from outside of the SBCC District over workers who need to live in Santa Barbara.

195930 Apr 11, 2019 08:49 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

Exactly! Thank you for doing the research. A community college is supposed to serve the local community and should not actively recruit. Sadly the impact of this unnecessary and greedy practice goes way beyond compromising housing for our workforce and our families.

oops Apr 11, 2019 08:02 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

The right answer is to decrease International and out-of-state students. Unfortunately, given the greed involved in our university & CC school systems, there is no appetite or incentive to do so

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 07:27 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

And goodness knows that our neighborhoods, roads, etc would be safer without these 20-something drivers flying all over town. They should reside on campus and stay on campus. Where I went to school, freshmen could not bring cars to school and students who did had to park in a lot that was a mile away. We walked everywhere and only used our cars to go home a few weekends per semester.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 07:23 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

I grew up on the east coast where universities had multiple high-rise dormitories on campus in which to house students. Why is this not the norm (or mandated) on the west coast where land is so much more expensive?

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 09:44 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

Earthquakes are a non-issue, structural engineering has come a long way. SF wouldn't look the way it does if earthquakes were a problem for modern high-rises and skyscrapers.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 09:29 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

OK, so maybe not "high-rise" in the east coast sense, but SB high-rise (35' - 45'?) could still house students in a dormitory-style efficient accommodations on campus that would be controlled by the SBCC - not weirdo greedy landlords. Secondly, it is certainly possible to build earthquake-safe high-rise buildings. Building Codes these days make it so expensive to build, that we should build more efficiently - not less.

420722 Apr 11, 2019 07:59 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

Santa Barbara has an ordinance for high rises because that’s what the people wanted. Don’t like it? The east coast awaits you. Bye Felicia.

a-1568851879 Apr 10, 2019 09:35 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

What are the costs to the community to have multiple colleges in a small space with inadequate infrastructure, high land costs and an aging community with real estate under Prop 13? Hate to say it but we really need a study that factors in the social and economic costs for the entire community when you consider that our main attraction is tourism and our main industries are service/healthcare related or other industries that employe more people on the lower end of wages than the higher end. - We likely need a huge education/out of town student tax and we should figure out what we can do with some properties under Prop 13 that don't pay their fair share... - And we might need a retire to or hold a second home in Santa Barbara Tax too.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 08:13 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

You must be elected to City or County office! YES!! We need a cost study. These students who do not live at home with a property tax paying person need to pay a $500+ Tax for fire, police, ambulance, street,infrastructure, social, water services that students get FREE paid for by US. It’s simply wrong to make us cross subsidize them. They pay $150 for an activity card. Charge them a City/ County Card gre. BTW, CA was the only state to pay for 2.7M enrolled student ObamaCare Premiums . In other states, NO enrollment in college without proof student or family paid health care premium. CA residents will pay for anything and everything. Next up: free SBCC Housing . Wait. You’ll see it.

Factotum Apr 10, 2019 09:39 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

The main employer in this area is government; not tourism or retail. The main source of income to support our main employer government is our own tax dollars. You would think our own votes would take better care of our own tax dollars, but we now have a long history of just the opposite. We keep voting for more and more expensive government. What are we getting in return for that choice?

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 08:47 AM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

What? And for Whom or Who & Where? Are you advising enrollment in remedial English at SBCC? It’s not offered. Against the law. Pls enroll in CA Civics 101 to get educated about your state laws.

a-1568851879 Apr 10, 2019 07:50 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

Additional housing should not be for SBCC, are you kidding? It should be for our workforce. SBCC is a community college that should serve the community not compromise housing, parking, and safety in SB, Goleta and Isla Vista with its unrestrained bloat. Believe me, the no cap admission policy and 100% acceptance rate causes way more harm than good.

ParvoPup Apr 10, 2019 07:20 PM
How Much SBCC Housing and For Who?

All of this angst would end if you SB folks would embrace your obvious future and let progress have it's way. Resistance is futile. You are destined to become North Santa Monica whether you want too or not. So let's put the pity in the potty , grab some gumption and get to building The Mesa Towers! Just picture it - 25 stories high of gleaming glass and metal with some IPE wood accents on the balconies for that hip organic vibe. How beautiful it will be reflecting the sunrises and sunsets while providing safe haven for the students destined to be Future Leaders of America- You'll be famous!

420722 Apr 10, 2019 07:00 PM
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I read an article that said A geologist from way back when said Santa Barbara would be most comfortable at no more than 70,000 people. We’re almost at 100,000, NO we don’t have the infrastructure for any more homes or 500 sq ft boxes that they are calling homes these days.

a-1568851879 Apr 11, 2019 09:32 AM
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...because a geologist is the most qualified person to weigh in on the matter....are 30,000 more people going to make SB sink into the ocean?

Factotum Apr 10, 2019 05:25 PM
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If SBCC builds out of district student housing, they will never pass another local bond issue. Their call. They sealed their fate. They will no longer a local community college. Local property tax payers have no interest supporting out of district students. Nice ploy - we will build the necessary 5000 housing units the city needs to meet state requirements set by Moinque Limon and Hannah-Beth Jackson. 5000 concentrated SBCC students (aka Isla Vista lite) has no place in our town. Nor do Monique or Hannah-Beth. Get new voices to speak for us in Sacramento, so when the "state" tells us what to do it is something we want and agree with. No to Jackson and Limon -no to 5000 SBCC dorm students. No to the "state" and its one size fits all demands.

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