How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

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By Denise S. Adams

How do we mobilize to get the City and County to remove dangerous, combustible Eucalyptus trees? The founding estate Barrons imported from Australia these foreign weed trees that spread quickly, and are cost-prohibitive to maintain. Each tree costs property owners thousands which results in neglect: pay the water bill or pay for tree care.

The County only wants to maintain certain trees every 5-10 years by pruning a few branches. Occasionally  Edison will trim a few branches, only if branches engage with high power wires, and multiple customers complain.   EDISON does agree it would be wonderful for the Barker Pass Rd trees to be removed that are in the extreme high wind tunnel.   EDISON acknowledges that nothing has changed since the 1925 earthquake and fire due to exposed high voltage wires, and old transformers.

With Sacramento planning to take over PG&E, and possibly Edison due to fires, we can expect less or no maintenance in Calzuela.  City Council has yet to focus on fire and disaster prevention.

As part of the endangered species of property owners, what’s the plan to remove these horrible trees? We’ve had enough drama and trauma in Montecito and SB.


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Z Jan 06, 2019 07:56 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Get real folks. Discussing generic "eucalyptus" contributes to global worming; just hot air. There are eucalyptus and there are eucalyptus, some species are just lousy weeds and some are nice to have around, it all depends on the setting. The giant red gum is a pain in the butt, so too for the blues; lots of hazard, little shade, vast water usage. Cutting the damn things down is no small task but the real work comes with disposing of the leftovers, millions of tons of leftovers. A useful discussion includes the species and the particular location.

Factotum Jan 05, 2019 09:00 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

City need to revisit the tree ordinance regulations and open it to public discussion, now that we have lived with its intent and practice for a number or years. All city ordinances should go through regular review. are they meeting their original intent. Has the law of unintended consequences made them more burdensome, than beneficial. Are duties and obligations shared equally and fairly between the city and the residents. Can the worst aspects be mitigated. Can the essential benefits be preserved. But being choked with irrational demands is not the way we build a healthy city together.

Factotum Jan 06, 2019 09:51 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Irrational demands - the layers and layers of application and review one has to go through to remove a hazardous and expensive tree on their own property, if it falls within the city's sweeping protection zones, beyond even the city street tree protection zones. We need a de minimus exemption for every property owner - at least one permit-free tree removal per year, if this is what the owner concludes is best for their own property and pocket book. Right now the city imposed an unfunded mandate on the property owner to pay for ongoing tree maintenance when in fact that tree should be removed.

a-1568608376 Jan 05, 2019 08:54 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

This is priceless. People who have, typically, lived here less than a couple decades want to chop down trees 60+ years old. Please, anti-tree mob, move to Bakersfield, pronto. Transplant yourselves to a location where trees won't be a bother to you and leave our trees alone.

Factotum Jan 06, 2019 09:54 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Do you want to pay for the property owners city mandated tree maintenance? No, I suspect not. Let them choose what works best for their own property. Trees can outgrow their usefulness, rob the owner of excessive water demands, clean up and root invasions into plumbing and pavings. The city's draconian demands that affect a tree owners property and pocket book have gone too far. Where is your offer to share this onerous and ongoing expense? I am waiting.

SBWoman Jan 05, 2019 11:28 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

For the record: I’ve lived here 39 years. I hope you have some concern for human survival. The Eucalyptus Trees on Barker Pass Rd, an extreme high wind tunnel, were deemed a fire hazard after area burned and most every home lost in the 1977 Sycamore Fire.

pstarSR Jan 05, 2019 06:53 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

get rid of all the trees, they are just mooching off our resources anyways. first world problems here, gezzus get over it. that tree probably provides the air you are hopelessly huffing and puffing while looking at a tree that was planted probably before you were born, hell ALL of us. talk about invasive species. we are the invasive one

Factotum Jan 06, 2019 10:00 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

This state infrastructure was last planned for 20 million residents. It has quickly grown in the past few decades to 40 million residents with no infrastructure ability to absorb those numbers. Instead we created consequence free term-limited elected officials who engage in short term re-election politics. Any long-term responses of our huge and growing resource and infrastructure liabilities get short-changed in their zeal to win re-election cash from the massive government employee unions who have been long skimming off the top, leaving the majority of state residents with very little in return, except this growing long term debt for government employee benefits. This is crazy.

SBWoman Jan 05, 2019 11:32 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Agreed humans are the invasive species. In my lifetime from 1950 CA’s population went from 10M to 40M forcing homes to be built where unsafe. Hence, the current trend for urbanization as we plan for 50M, and mitigating Public Safety issues.

BondJamesBond Jan 05, 2019 04:42 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Oh yes, get rid of all non-native plants, animals, and humans... Eucalyptus trees are also natural habitats for Monarch Butterflies… another invasive species (haha)... Unfortunately, the population of Monarchs is down considerably this year, perhaps due in no small part to the continued hysteria regarding Eucalyptus trees....

EastBeach Jan 05, 2019 06:41 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

JamesBond is correct. Just Google "Monarch butterfly eucalyptus". Sample hit ...... https://sfforest.org/2016/02/18/three-myths-about-the-monarch-butterfly/

a-1568608376 Jan 04, 2019 09:39 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

How does one remove a eucalyptus? Chainsaws are relatively cheap and easy to use. Don't forget hearing protection and wear good boots. It's great exercise. Have fun!

a-1568608376 Jan 04, 2019 02:42 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Channel your inner Paul Bunyan and cut those euc's with one cut to their base. I'll be at Barker Pass tomorrow at 0600 sharpening my saw. Once the Montecito Mom's have had a coffee I'll fire it up and you can watch me down a few 60 footers. If you bring beer I'll let you have a go. Let it rip!!!

a-1568608376 Jan 04, 2019 02:00 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

A-1546632652 you say have fun, but are you suggesting it’s safe for the untrained to climb 50 to 80 feet in the air to chain saw a huge tree? You gotta be kidding or be irresponsible. Can I come watch you cut down a 50 foot tree?

Flicka Jan 04, 2019 09:07 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Oaks and Sycamores are the only native trees, all others are "immigrants". COASTWATCH, living in a home worth 2 mil doesn't mean the owners are rich. My Uncle built a home (did all the work) on the Riviera in 1962, the lot cost 9 thousand. Sure it came to be worth 2 mil but Uncle died and Aunt was living on her pension. That make her wealthy?

Yeti Jan 04, 2019 01:33 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

FYI: Below is a list of the COMMON NATIVE Trees of California.. most of which ARE in this area do to the various climates we have from the beach to the mountains and the dry valleys.. There are many varieties of Pine Tree, Willows and others that are not listed. Hardly just the two that you have listed. valley oak (Quercus lobata) interior live oak (Quercus wislizenii) blue oak (Quercus douglasii) California sycamore (Platanus racemosa) California black walnut (Juglans hindsii) Fremont cottonwood (Populus fremontii) Oregon ash (Fraxinus latifolia) boxelder (Acer negundo) gray pine (Pinus sabiniana) California white alder (Alnus rhombifolia) California buckeye (Aesculus californica) a number of different willows (Salix spp.)

a-1568608376 Jan 04, 2019 08:47 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

A 1546619819- for fire protection CA, City and County MUST start removing Eucalyptus trees from high fire areas that are a buffer to protecting the City from fire. Prioritize Eucalyptus Tree removal: Start with high fire High Wind tunnel areas like Barker Pass, Cold Spring and Ashley Roads, Coyote and Sycamore Canyon Roads at the curve, Hwy 154... Westmont removed most of its Eucalyprus Trees after the 2008 Tea Fire. There are mega- Fire Prevention Grant monies that have been allocated to Montecito and Santa Barbara after the Thomas Fire. A question is if you want salary increases to the $500K for the Chiefs and $300K for fire Staff with lifetime pensions or fire safety for the masses of residents in the City and in West Montecito who are not deep pocket wealthy but rather working stiffs, along with many struggling renters. Shouldn’t some tax money be allocated for our benefit?

sommerfee Jan 04, 2019 08:32 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

No. After the Woolsey and Camp fires and catastrophic loss of life in the town of Paradise, this is a post-eco extremism America. The era of Eucalyptus trees is over. All of them need to leave California this year.

a-1568608376 Jan 04, 2019 07:26 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

It is a little presumptuous to expect the City & County to remove the trees - there are hundreds of them in SB! Agreed, they are non-native, extremely flammable and a general mess to maintain. They were planted throughout California a very long time ago, under the false notion that they could be used as lumber. If anything, it is an example of not doing the research needed to back up a notion. But to expect the City & County to just go around and cut them down?!? Really - how much would that cost? What would be left, stumps? What about the erosion that would occur in their absence? Are you really just wanting someone to take on the responsibility and expense of taking out the trees that are bothering you?

a-1568608376 Jan 04, 2019 09:32 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

I thought baron who built current Hammet Estate and the baron on the other side of Eucalyptus Hill Road imported7000 Eucalyptus tress because one of these barons like them— not for lumber. Does anyone know the history of why so many of these trees?

a-1568608376 Jan 04, 2019 08:55 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

It’s a safety issue. Fire prevention grant monies from our paid taxes are available to prevent fires. Some chiefs want to use this money to increase fire salaries which from CaliforniaTransparent are in the $200,000- $500,000 range with life-long pensions at highest last salary. Prevention money should benefit citizens and property owners in dangerous high fire areas. Combustible High Oul trees need to be removed in these designated areas. Once a fire starts these designated high fire areas serve as first line of defense to City protecting tens of thousands residents. Cut down the Eucalyptus in those areas near high wires.

a-1568608376 Jan 03, 2019 11:12 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

There's a 70+' tall Eucalyptus street tree directly in front of our home. The tree has got to be 80+ years old. My family and I spend plenty of time picking up sticks (after blustery winds, especially), year-round. The tree roots have cracked and raised our concrete driveway and it cost about $6,000 to put in a new drive----which, now 20 years later, is cracked again and raised by the euc roots and will need to be redone. We can't plant and maintain flowers or fruit trees in the soil within 40' of the tree, because the euc roots suck out all the water. We have had big branches fall. About five years ago, one falling branch took out phone, cable TV/Wi-fi and electric lines. We had to pay $700 to replace our electric power line. (This mini-disaster could have been prevented, but the City arborist didn't think the tree needed a trim at that time. He later realized his mistake). We spend A LOT of time sweeping leaves. One year there was so much nectar from the euc blossoms, our concrete street turned black with dripping syrupy nectar.------------------ If someone came over tomorrow and told me that "our" eucalyptus tree was slated to be removed, I would chain myself to the tree. I would raise such a stink, it would make national headlines. The Acorn woodpeckers have a nesting cavity in that tree. The Red-tail and sometimes Red-shouldered hawks and, seasonally, the Sharp-shinned hawks all use that euc as a surveillance post, while searching for prey. The Yellow-rumped warblers, the Hooded orioles, the White-breasted nuthatches and American crows and Anna's hummingbirds LOVE that tree. Bees harvest the nectar from the euc blossoms. We compost the leaves. The smaller branches and twigs provide lignum for our fruit trees. Of all the trees in our neighborhood, this euc is one of the tallest, most majestic. People who talk about "invasive" trees are likely the same people who can't abide tree "litter" and have no concept how trees work to clean the air of odors and pollutant gases. These same people probably have little or no appreciation for the shelter, shade, food, beauty and clean air provided by Santa Barbara's Eucalyptus trees. Hooray for the 50 species of Eucalyptus trees in Santa Barbara. I love each and every one of them.

Factotum Jan 05, 2019 07:02 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

We need to trim the draconian powers of the city arborist - Urban Forest manager. If anyone wants a taste of true socialism, try to get rid of a non-native, dangerous and expensive tree in this city on your own private property. There needs to be a de minimum provision in this eco-terrorism ordinance. Each property owner gets to deal with at least one tree a year on their own private property, without having to jump all the bells, whistles, expense, time and hoops that most likely wil get an arrogant denial from the city tree tzar in the first place. This ordinance is one way to hate our own city, just so city council can feel good about themselves.

SantaBarbaraObserver Jan 04, 2019 07:16 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Oh my... What is it about SB that makes people so irrational about such trivial matters? Is it the water? The constant blabbering about living in paradise? Or the general lack of perspective (many people never leave the bubble)? Not sure but this post is the epitome of the syndrome that affects so many. ------------------------ Its a tree. It will fall someday. Possibly even this winter as Eucs cannot handle wet soil. Hopefully you won't be chained to the tree when it does fall or held responsible if it falls on your neighbors... I love trees but falling in love with a Euc that has already cost you so much is more than a little whacked, its cra cra.

a-1568608376 Jan 03, 2019 08:10 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

When I was a student teacher many years ago, a eucalyptus tree in the parking lot of the school dropped a limb right at pick-up time, landing on a parent. She was injured, and I assume had to spend time in the hospital. It wasn't long before the school district's work crews were out there lopping the limbs off all the eucalyptus trees at that school. I've also heard they're full of oil and go up like match sticks during a fire. Just what we need here.

Yeti Jan 03, 2019 08:03 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

HIGHLY COMBUSTIBLE, grow and propagate like weeds choking out native plants, dropping huge limbs in high winds damaging life and property... What don't you like about that! Unfortunately, the locals go nuts whenever anyone wants to remove one. Just crazy.

yacht rocked Jan 03, 2019 07:24 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

I can imagine Barker Pass without Eucalyptus trees. It would look alot different, and property values would decrease because those trees give that road the attractive semi-rural character that attracted existing residents. So sure, cut them all down and enjoy the ambiance of fast traffic and increased noise, and thanks in advance for further embedding this shortcut between SB and Montecito. Maybe if you're lucky, it will become a real state highway - but be careful leaving your driveway.

Factotum Jan 05, 2019 07:05 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

There are any number of fast growing trees that are far better suited to this climate. Appreciate Chase Palm Park -those who planted it never lived long enough to see it as it is today (an equal non-native hazard). But get the point. It is not all about you, right here and right now. it is about the health of future generations too.

SBWoman Jan 04, 2019 09:43 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

What trees would you like to see line Barker Pass Road? The Barker area has CC&Rs calling for any removed Eucalyptus tree to be replaced with a full size tree. The street would be lined with non-combustible, clean trees that would not grow into the high electrical wires to better protect from fire . Residents will incur the cost of new trees and replanting as they agreed in 1979 after the 1977 Sycamore Fire started by the Coyote kite flyer and fueled by high winds, burned down Barker Pass.

sommerfee Jan 04, 2019 08:36 AM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

Sycamore and Paper trees share a similar visual aesthetic and are safer for California. Tigers are beautiful animals but do we want them roaming freely and feeding on dogs, cats and children just so you can occasionally gaze sighing at them? This is essentially The Zoo Argument. Eucalyptus trees are Australia natives and need to return there. You are free to visit Sydney anytime to list before their highly combustible 'beauty'.

Shasta Guy Jan 03, 2019 07:23 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

The trees are picturesque, but hazardous. Upon returning to our home after the Tea or Jesusita Fire, there was a small charred eucalyptus branch in my backyard even though the fire stopped a mile from the house. In my opinion, they are an invasive species. They are a poor fit for our bioregion for many reasons.

CoastWatch Jan 03, 2019 05:52 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

So you are looking for some other entity to take care of YOUR problem and not wanting to take personal responsibility ($$$$) to deal with eucalyptus trees on your property.... And you live in the Riviera, which, I'm guessing, your property is worth at least $2 million dollars.... Classic.

Factotum Jan 05, 2019 07:10 PM
How do we Eliminate Dangerous Eucalyptus Trees?

She said palm trees. Plural Yes, they are about $500 each to trim to keep the fronds from crushing the roof. Do you see how they have to do this - find someone who can and is willing to scale up the tree trunk - many, many stories high, just belted around the trunk and then saw away at the dangerous dropping fronds. That is an obscene demand made on the workers and the owner for the city's ill-begotten tree hugging agenda. Time for change. This tree ordinance now causes more harm than good. No one wants to live without trees; but lots of us want to live without the crushing expense and danger this ordinance now demands.

a-1568608376 Jan 05, 2019 06:18 PM
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I have to agree w/Eggs. Get quotes. My cost is for 5 palms. And I admit I exaggerated, it's closer to $1500. But dammit, the city infuriates me!!!

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