Governor Newsom Announces New Immediate Actions to Curb COVID-19 Transmission

Ah yes, you are correct, SACJON.

The Independent reports:

"For parents in Santa Barbara, this regression does not necessarily mean that in-person schooling is out of the question for their children. The schools in the area that have already made the shift to some form of in-person education may continue despite the tier change because they switched to in-person learning in a red tier.

For those in the Santa Barbara and Goleta Union school districts, it’s more dicey. As long as the county is currently in the red tier or better the week that school starts — January 19 and 11, respectively — then school may resume on campus as planned. Otherwise, they will have to remain in distance-learning models."

So the rich people applied for the waiver BEFORE we shifted back into purple, and that cannot be rescinded. Not exactly sure why (LMAO). Clearly, it has NOTHING to do with public health concerns. So rich kids get to be in school and the other kids, including mine, can go to hell.

Is this why I have been supporting unions all these years, to see them allowing this kind of class divide.

It's disgusting beyond belief. And it shakes my faith in the health authorities that it's one rule for the rich, and another for everyone else.

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VOR - I disagree. Yeah, most people are wearing masks, but the hot spots are places and situations where they are NOT wearing masks and in close proximity (large rallies, IV, house parties, etc). If we curbed those large, indoor/even outdoor, mostly un-masked events, then we'd be in a better place. You can't seriously deny that.

Sacjon because in lesser developed countries parental concerns go well beyond public education and public swimming.

When there is one rule for one set of people and another set of expectations for another group, is it any wonder that there is a problem with COMPLIANCE?

What a JOKE!!!

VOR - while the school wasn't the vector for these high school students, multiple house parties WERE. This is what I can't believe you're ignoring. These unmasked gatherings are what's causing our numbers to go up. STOP THE PARTIES, etc. Enforce the rules or just shut everything down. This is ridiculous.

Sacjon - I was responding to someone else. Apparently you are the self appointed hall monitor. Yes it may get shut down again going back to the purple tier- but the fact is that they were trying to open. Had you followed along that is exactly the point I was making.

Hit the nail on the head, couldn't have said it better VOR.

@VOR Nope! Right back at ya'. The pockets of virus spread are coming from group gatherings of "extended families" and younger people (college types and the 20 something's) that are Not wearing masks. I'll put my house on it. There are a lot of people not wearing masks, but it's not at Trader Joe's or Gelsons.

I agree SACJON. At least in schools there is the ability to implement some degree of control over hygiene and behavior. Not true of big parties. And I get to witness their spreading potential first hand on a frequent basis. The vacation rental next door to me and the student party house down the block have never been busier. Never a mask in sight on the throngs spilling out onto the sidewalk, constant loud and saliva spewing bloviating, and social distancing of about 2mm. They don't care that they are likely spreading the virus, and the police don't care to stop them.

RHS, I know you know correlation is not causation.

@LOOSECANNON - it's not exactly true that private schools can fully stay open. They have to continue to monitor cases in the schools - if in school cases go high enough, they will have to shut down. Basically, if 5% of the staff and students in a school test positive within a 14-day period, they must close. If 25% of the schools in a district are closed, then the district has to close. (All staff must be regularly tested.)

I agree Sacjon. There are far too many youngsters carrying about their partying and such. I can understand their frustration and wanting to carry on with life as we used to know it, but they need to think about what they are doing! Everyone here is arguing about everyone else. We have college kids across the street. Partying every other night since college started. For the last week....silent. They probably got Covid. It's these ignorant kids that are making things worse, not the rest of us who are trying to get through this without dying.

LooseCannon: It's the same reason that Gov. Newsom pushes the state health warnings, shames the hoi polloi Californians, and then himself goes to the French Laundry in Napa and then, when caught, apologizes. He hasn't (yet) apologized for sending his 4 children to private school. There's something about apologies: I watched the excellent CNN biopic on Biden on Sunday and was struck by how often he apologized.

I'm with you LFG this is beyond crazy. It is so simple, at-risk, stay home stay safe. Simply want to stay home and stay safe, that is okay too! No need to force your will on everyone else. Many are stuck in March 2020 and think millions of California's are going to die.... that would have never happened even if we ignored covid (yet Newsome used that as the justification to start this unconstitutional power trip). Fear not Facts.

Let us know when you two decide to pay any attention to facts.

LFG, we are not "giving up every freedom we know." We're trying to get through a virus that doesn't respect politics. It's like a war. People might have complained about hitting the bomb shelter during WWII, but doing so prevented them from getting blown up! Freedom should be for everyone, and if people do not take proper precautions and follow rules of hygiene, they are infringing on the rights of others to be free of the virus they are spewing and blubbering into everyone's air space.

So we should shut down every small business in the county because we have 2 people currently in the ICU? And upon closer examination, those two people have underlying conditions? That's the new norm? My social responsibility to make sure no one catches any virus ever because it may get passed on to someone that may die. Or this is just the exception? You're lying if you think this is an exception. This is a government precedent.

So we should shut down every indoor small business in the county because we have 2 people currently in the ICU? And upon closer examination, those two people have underlying conditions? That's the new norm? My social responsibility to make sure no one catches any virus ever because it may get passed on to someone that may die. Or this is just the exception? You're lying if you think this is an exception. This is a government precedent.

Science denial and mask resistance are just parts of the huge problem we have with people who don't have any BS filters in their brains.

no where in the constitution does it say you can endanger others, no where. thanks for playing "voice of reason".

Yes LFG, that is what their saying. Crazy world where personal responsibility has gone away in our push to eliminate ALL risk from our lives.

Do any of you people realize that "at risk, stay at home" isn't actually an option?
- Cancer patients have to get chemo
- Elderly people need to get groceries and medications
- Millions of people with pre-existing conditions have to actually go to work

It's almost like you live on a different planet. This is not rocket science. Other countries have actually done far better than the US. There are solutions. But "We're #1 US" just can't have that.

Mask up whenever outside your home or car? Wondering if this is supposed to include in your own yard? Seems like a walk on a street with no close people or your own yard should be okay to be without a mask. My doctor says its pretty hard to catch it outside, unless you are right by someone for a period of time. Of course with the density of housing in many neighborhoods your own yard or house might be less than 3 feet from neighbors. And the virus could hitch a ride on air blowing into your home from the neighbors. So if the ventilation of outside air doesn’t prevent viral contagion, seems the guidelines should be to wear a mask even in your own home in order to have low risk. What a fun life we all have ahead.

I’ll never wear a mask outside. Ticket me or fine me to death I don’t care. Humans were not meant to wear a mask. 2 weeks to slow the spread, 8 months later and over 75% mask compliance and we’re in a another spike? Give me freaking break. Now the CDC and Fauxci say even after vaccine distribution we will still require mask & social distance for an unknown period of time. How many times does the goalpost have to move for you people to wake and realize this is is not going to stop unless you make it stop.

How many times do fools have to be told that if they don't continue to follow the health protocols, the infections will explode? It's really simple, but the dolts out there remain clue resistant.

11:51 What you’re really saying is, if we don’t allow the media to control our thoughts and ONLY follow the advice of scientist & doctors that you approve of (even though there are just as many out there that disagree with lockdowns and certain protocols) we’re just bad people, dolts, fools, uneducated even. Got it.

You'll be hard pressed to find any epidemiologist that agrees with your delusions.

seriously a small piece of cloth over your face hole is really that bad? seriously stop this dribble..... no where I repeat NO WHERE in the constitution does it give anyone the right to endanger others. NO WHERE. get off this.

PSTARR it isn't the mask, it's these idiotic non science based requirements like wearing a mask when you're outside unless you're eating or drinking then it's "safe" to not wear a mask? The government has gone overboard with their micromanaging control trip, even that wouldn't be so bad if it actually worked, but it isn't working and it isn't because of the few mask rebels.

For some facts about polio eradication efforts that don't include the delusional spin:

https://www.who.int/news-room/photo-story/photo-story-detail/10-facts-on-polio-eradication

Let's take your train of thought (Thought may be an overly generous term, but we'll use it for convenience.) to its logical conclusion: Why even have a medical profession? Just let people die. And those other accoutrements of civilization like houses and clothes? They just delay the inevitable.

Good luck trying to stop a virus. You're wildly uninformed regarding humanity's success at stopping viruses. Let me guess. this is the one. Again, stay inside my friend. I'll give you updates from the outside.

Ever heard of smallpox? Have any clue about the polio epidemic? Chicken pox and shingles? Of course not. Facts that don't fit your internalized reality don't count.

You mean when my parents put me in a bathtub with all my siblings so we could trust our immune systems to fight the virus off? They were uneducated buffoons. Only superbly intelligent people understand facts and their realities of Covid-19 facts are the realities of truth and those who disagree with their conclusions are "clearly idiots - for I myself am not an idiot. Therefore since you arrive a different conclusion than mine, LFG, you must be an idiot." After all, 2+2 is four and this is as simple as that. There's not possibly any other narrative related to Covid than governors looking out for our very best. As some guy in history once said, "When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use."

LFG- thank you for the laugh and dose of truth. Glad there are still some reasonable people out there. I was getting worried.

Incoherent ramblings don't change reality. Scattershot verbiage with no truth involved.

420, our halfway shutdowns are clearly not working. Hospitals have more covid patients than ever. I had one strain of it, I survived it, so I figure I probably won't die if I get the other strain going around. But I feel sorry for the people who are losing relatives to this because they really miss them. I will do whatever easy or semi-hard stuff Fauci recommends to try and help my community out.

PITMIX - my college buddy lost her mom yesterday. Not to COVID, no - to an infection due to a hip replacement. Why did this kill her? Because Texas hospitals are overwhelmed with COVID patients, and they had to hold her in rehab ... after 3 days she was so sick they had to move her to the hospital, and it was too late.

LMG, that is terrible. Very sorry to hear this. My sister lost her boyfriend in May because he had a heart attack but was afraid to go to the hospital. By the time he went, it was too late and he died the next day. In this case it was more about his fear that a failure of the system but still a tragedy.