Goleta Holiday Parade Cancelled Due to Rain

It was a very wet one! My kid and their fellow Bravo musicians were completely drenched!

DUCK, facts aren't up for discussion

"Climate change" is one of the current dog whistles. There are a bunch. All gender/sex, medical, race/color, religion/creed, political/culture topics have become off-limits for serious discussion. All it's safe to say is, "How about them {sports team of your choice?] as long as you don't actually care enough to support them."

Welcome to 2022 and Merry Christmas!

You're the one hedging your bets by claiming that the climate can be both wetter and drier "naturally", while ignoring the fact that the rate of change is unprecedented. Paltering all the way.

4:34, see the Mercury news graphic I posted from 2014. The mega droughts occurred centuries ago, what were experiencing today is nothing by comprison. And see the 2014 article I posted. The last century was one of the wettest periods in the last 7000 years. You say causation as if people are responsible for creating a drought. However, if the weather took a turn for the wetter and we started shattering rainfall records in the next few years I suspect you would similarly say we caused that with the same CO2 emissions that are causing drought today. I suppose it’s always good to hedge your bets. At the end of the day, I just don’t see compelling evidence that humans are changing the weather via CO2 emissions. In addition, the hysteria about CO2 has diverted vast amounts of resources away from other environmental causes where much more good could have been achieved. We can’t control the weather and spending money thinking we can is a fools errand. However, we could do a lot of other things to clean up pollution, protect endangered species, and improve life for our fellow humans around the world. It’s a shame the CO2 fad has put everything else on the back burner.

Of course, when you're experiencing (and causing) a megadrought, previous periods will be wetter. What's your point, other than confusion?

Apparently we're liars Chip: “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. ― George Orwell, 1984

You’re right sac, here is a link to the 2014 article associated with the graphic. Among other things, it notes the last century was among the wettest periods in the last 7000 years.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/01/25/california-drought-past-dry-periods-have-lasted-more-than-200-years-scientists-say/

Sacjon, I was specific to drought in CA being normal. In a similar fashion, they "changing climate" hasn't lead to much change in Altantic hurricanes, thats of course if you listen to NOAA and actual oceanographers rather than the "news". And no I don't think dramatic C02 reduction is as critical as people are led to believe but a lot of other pollutants go hand in hand with whatever is emitting the C02. I also think, as feasible, we should have as little impact on our surrounds as possible.

3:30 I provided three reliable sources/links saying exactly what I was saying so what was the lie? 3:31 mass extinctions are normal on a time scale of hundreds of millions of years and they will happen again. Not through man made climate change, most likely an asteroid, nuclear war, or major volcanic eruption that puts enough debris in the atmosphere to dramatically cool earth (to a much greater extent than any warming that has occurred the past 100 years) leading to worldwide crop failure, famine, mass starvation and death and the worldwide anarchy that with go along with it.

VOICE - If all this is "normal," then why bother reducing CO2?

CHIP - weird, you must have missed the date on that article lol - "PUBLISHED: February 14, 2022 at 1:41 p.m. | UPDATED: February 15, 2022 at 3:44 a.m."

That’s interesting sac. They sure did a lot of updating since the 2014 version of that article. Here is the graphic they published in 2014.

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20140127_031535_ssjm0126megadry90.jpg?w=620

3:25 @

There have been mass extinctions in the past. Just a normal thing, don't worry about it.

To summarize, just another lie.

To summarize, drought is totally normal climate behavior for CA.

Scientists from several institutions have been studying 602 tree ring chronologies from the western United States covering the past 2,000 years. Wider rings correspond to wetter years, and by overlapping the patterns of rings of one tree with the rings of another, scientists can reconstruct periods that are longer than the lives of the individual trees. The research shows that the 20th century was much wetter than normal. https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/story?id=178188&page=1

But scientists say that in the more ancient past, California and the Southwest occasionally had even worse droughts — so-called megadroughts — that lasted decades. At least in parts of California, in two cases in the last 1,200 years, these dry spells lingered for up to two centuries. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/science/californias-history-of-drought-repeats.html

What the nitwit deniers here don't understand is that adding energy to the atmosphere intensifies all weather events, globally, and the climate becomes chaotic.

Scientists studying long-ago California climate have realized that the 20th century was abnormally wet and rainy, according to researcher Lynn Ingram, professor in the Department of Earth and Planetary Science at UC Berkeley.
“The past 150 years have been wetter than the past 2,000 years,” https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=13274

Misleading article, and you left out that it only mentions that the past 22 years (cherry picked date range) was the driest over the past 1,200 years and contrary to what I'll post below.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/02/14/current-drought-is-worst-in-1200-years-in-california-and-the-american-west-new-study-shows/

It's actually considered to be in the worst drought in 1,200 years according to some, 500 years according to others. It's hardly a return to "normal."

Our drought in the west is not the new normal it's a return to the old normal. CA in the 1800 and early 1900's was a period of historically high rainfall which unfortuanly people took for granted and thought it would be always like this. The "droughts" throughout my lifetime has been the CA climate getting back to a state closer to the average seen over the past few thousand years.

12:43, you make a good point. Drought is caused by global warming, the permanent new normal for the western landscape. Likewise, biblical rains and flooding are caused by global warming due to that extra evaporation and intensification. Sometimes global warming works in mysterious ways, it can give the rain and it can taketh the rain away.

CHIP - did you even bother looking up the rainfall totals before typing that?

Global warming = more evaporation = more intense storms

12:14 - Some people don't know enough to distinguish between climate and weather.