Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

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Update by Ginger
September 2, 2021

What ZEROHAWK has correct is that the 5G signal doesn’t go very far, hence the need to install relays every 1,000 ft (or less).

So they’re on utility poles everywhere. Brown boxes with wires going to half-round, cylinder or flat panel antennas.

Then there are huge network nodes, arrays with many antennas. Some are very obvious and some are disguised as trees.

  

See “exposure warning” notice which is posted on all relays and arrays. The fake “tree” is an AT&T installation in Tucker’s Grove Park and the white tower is a Verizon array on Kellogg near Cathedral Oaks Rd. They are everywhere. Ugly, but not dangerous if you keep your face three feet away.


By an edhat reader
August 29, 2021

Has anyone used Frontier fiber optic internet service in Santa Barbara and if so, could you share your experience. Their website claims you can get internet service with 500 mb/s upload and 500 mb/s download for $49.99 a month. This sounds pretty good. Maybe to good to be true.

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Gregoreo Aug 29, 2021 02:08 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

They’re not quite done wiring it but they’ve been busy the past few months getting the backbones spread out through the neighborhoods. Fiber to the home is the new strategy following the exit from bankruptcy.
It’s coming! Might even be available for install in some neighborhoods

ginger1 Aug 29, 2021 02:19 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

This does not bode well for them. I checked on availability and got this: "Sorry, we're having some technical difficulties. Call 844-317-7462 and one of our sales experts will help you complete your order." Called and "estimated wait time is 30 minutes or more." I'm pretty sure they do not have fiber optics cable in my neighborhood.

Channelfog Aug 29, 2021 02:46 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Many neighborhoods do have fiber lines, like Alta Mesa, but they serve only the cell phone sites. These lines are easy to spot as they double back on themselves with a thimble, to make the proper length between poles. This avoids very tricky fiber optic splicing/terminating in the field so any monkey can hang the wire.

notme Aug 29, 2021 05:25 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

I don't have experience with their fiber optic internet, but when Verizon sold their internet service to Frontier a few years ago, Frontier was awful. We didn't have internet for 2 weeks. Someone told me they were a small company and bit off more than they could chew. We ended up switching to Cox -- and I know everyone hates Cox, but I hated Frontier more.

ZeroHawk Aug 30, 2021 09:22 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Getoffmylawn, there is no 5G anywhere near Santa Barbara. Just because you have a 5G phone doesn't mean you have actual 5G service. The closest is in downtown LA, Redlands, San Diego, and a few in SF area. The redlands will be shutting theirs down soon and LA is revisiting the entire contract they have. Again, there is no 5G service near SB. You're just using 4G like the rest of us. I also have a 5G phone.

ZeroHawk Aug 30, 2021 11:40 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

wrong. there is no 5G in town. at all. this was voted against several years ago by the mayor and city council. neat little map generated by a company trying to sell products. See, people buy 5G phones and hope they are getting 5G. You're not. It's 4G. 5G towers are banned in most counties and countries. 5G towers only reach 1000ft. I won't sit here and argue fact with someone in denial because they over spent on a cell phone that doesn't product the speeds they want. My roommate has the same problem, and guess what. I work close to the TMobile store and just popped in and asked that same question. There are no 5G towers here. Carry on.

a-1630351713 Aug 30, 2021 12:28 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Sorry 0. When my phone is getting 5G it says 5G not 4G. There is a 5G tower at 111 W Micheltorena it is on private property. The people at the T-Mobile store know even less that you do about 5G.

ZeroHawk Aug 31, 2021 07:58 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

hah so you're saying that the people that sell the phones and have training on this know less than you. see, what this is, just buyers remorse and pure denial of fact. enjoy your 4G phone. <3

ZeroHawk Aug 31, 2021 08:01 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

*yawn* "4G wavelengths have a range of about 10 miles. 5G wavelengths have a range of about 1,000 feet, not even 2% of 4G's range. So to ensure a reliable 5G signal, there needs to be a lot of 5G cell towers and antennas everywhere" this is a copy/paste from both Verizon and TMobiles web site. So if what you are saying is true, we would have 5G towers ALL over the place. They only broadcast 1000feet, whereas a 4G tower broadcasts 10 miles. Read em and weep....but hey, i know you Edhaters love to argue logic and fact, so have at it lol

a-1630427945 Aug 31, 2021 09:39 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Get a grip Zero. The 5G system here in town is small, but it does exist. It uses a few high capacity "towers" on private property and many small relay devices. Here is a link to a site (not part of a cell company's web site):
https://www.cellmapper.net

a-1630352760 Aug 30, 2021 12:46 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Zero stop being a kook, there are 5G towers in Santa Barbara, Goleta and Montecito. Here is a link:
https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=310&MNC=260&type=NR&latitude=
34.42854131224273&longitude=-119.72017807866706&zoom=
12.92589172600221&showTowers=true&showTowerLabels=
true&clusterEnabled=true&tilesEnabled=true&showOrphans=
"false&showNoFrequencyOnly=false&showFrequencyOnly=
true&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=Last&showHex
=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnly=false&showLTECAOnly
=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=71&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap

ZeroHawk Aug 31, 2021 07:56 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

so i'm a kook because i'm not dumb enough to fall for that advertising joke saying there really is 5G in town? ok got it! you enjoy your "5G" then. Because those that don't believe everything they read online, know for certain, there is none. You just bought a 5G phone. There is no 5G service. But since you and so many others bought those phones and are intent to believe you didn't waste your money, i'll just lie and say you have 5G. there you go. have a nice day lol

Mesarats Aug 29, 2021 10:34 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

had a horrible experience when they took over from Verizon and switched to Cox.
decided to get internet in a house I’ve been working on in Santa Maria. completely
different experience. Called them up, took about 15-20 minutes to set it up, asked how soon they could install, response 2 days later, Asked for AM appointment, but only 1-5pm available, called the morning of and offered earlier, I was already in Bulletin said yes. they were already there and checking the lines. done in less than 2 hours. Fiber optic 5G. Fastest Internet I’ve had in a residential. The house was built in 1940, thick walls, very long houses and service is great through out. $59/month with a phone line included. Cox has been served!

rustydad Aug 30, 2021 07:49 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Before Frontier out on the Gaviota Coast we either got a super slow phone line connection or a download limited satellite. Frontier ran fiber out here and now for $40 a month we have unlimited 20mbs down and 1.7 up. Enough to watch movies and do just about anything we need. I have no problem with Frontier at all.

EastBeach Aug 31, 2021 11:17 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

20 Mbps *could* actually be fiber (depends on how it's it's deployed in the sectional pipeline of connections to your home/business). And even if you had 100% fiber from their central office or head end, the provider can "provision" your connection to a data rate lower than the maximum possible.

jak Sep 03, 2021 08:38 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

I live out in the sticks and I have 20mbps/1.7mbps fiber. (Actually get 25 to 30 down and 4 to 7 up). Why so slow? My ISP advertises the service as entry level high speed internet. They run fiber to a tombstone near the corner where our rural road peels off from the state highway. From there they link to nearby properties using a combination of WiFi with high gain antennas for the closest customers and a crude form of DSL over old abandoned phone lines for those of us who don’t have line of sight to their directional WiFi. For the cheapskates they will provide serial data over abandoned phone lines. Slow, but reliable and still faster than dialup. There are a lot of ways that fiber can be deployed. I am looking forward to the day when they trench our road and we get a six inch water main AND fiber right up to our driveway.

irievibe Aug 30, 2021 11:24 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

A friend of mine said they are giving priority to the waiting list for fiber in Santa Barbara if you sign up for DSL with them now. They make it sound like you are getting fiber, but you are probably on a DSL connection at 20mbs. This also means that it is coming, but I'm not holding my breath. Verizon started this so long ago and then it just sat there. Let's hope Frontier can break through the red tape.

mountainman1 Aug 30, 2021 01:09 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

I was one of the first to get Frontier’s internet on the Gaviota coast and am extremely happy with them. Just did a speed test and was 49 mbps.

EastBeach Aug 31, 2021 11:10 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

50 Mpbs is what my friend in Painted Cave is getting from a Frontier fiber connection. I'd take that over a faster Cox connection *if* Frontier fiber's upload jitter is lower. Cox's upload jitter is so poor in my neighborhood it makes use of any digital voice app (e.g. Teams, Zoom, Skype, any VoIP app) unusable during the day. Most "free" browser-based speed test apps don't do a good job of measuring jitter - you need to use one from a business internet provider.

ginger1 Aug 30, 2021 04:02 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Zero, what planet are you on? There are 5G boxes and antennas on poles all over town and (far too many) 5G network nodes, those huge arrays on towers, too. There's a couple of exceptionally ugly ones at the Cliff/La Positas traffic circle and hanging from utility poles on both of those streets. Meanwhile just had a great opportunity to compare Cox, ATT 4gLTE and 5G speeds. 5G was down earlier but is now running around 45Mb/s, LTE 10 and Cox 175.

ZeroHawk Sep 02, 2021 03:31 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

im on a planet with facts, clearly you and some others arent and are still aruging facts i presented. so sorry that you and some others were duped into buying 5G phones thinking the towers are all over. There is no 5G towers transmitting in SB currently. This was voted against and that was that. Not every cell tower on the map is 5G. We have a lot of cell towers in SB/SBCNTY. 4G. The boxes/nodes are not transmitting. This is FIBER OPTICS for Frontier internet. Cliff/Las Positas. That has been there for *over* a decade Ginger. That is 4G. What planet are YOU on? You seem to think every cell tower is 5G, and every box and node is a 5G transmitter. Weird...just weird. Carry on and keep enjoying your "5G" connections lol...

ZeroHawk Sep 02, 2021 03:45 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

btw, i'm glad i got into your head so much that you had to go driving around taking photos to try to prove me wrong. comical, but kinda pathetic too. i'll repeat my statement, you seem to think every tower is 5G, every box and node is a 5G wireless transmitter. Keep on thinking that. You see, i really do not care. :) I don't! I don't give two shits about this, you, him, them, or the fact there is no 5G. I just don't care! Know why? Because unlike you, i can close this screen and this is all history.

a-1630695349 Sep 03, 2021 11:55 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

How could the City prevent cell sites? I thought that the federal communications laws do not allow local cities to prevent the installation of cell sites.

homeboy7 Aug 31, 2021 02:10 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

From News Press article:

As the federal law stands, local jurisdictions are limited on what they can do to prevent the placement of small cell wireless facilities in certain areas so long as companies are following FCC regulations, Lisa Plowman, the director of the county Planning and Development Department, told the News-Press by phone on Friday.

“We have limitations that are imposed on us by the Federal Communications Commission,” Ms. Plowman said. “We don’t have the ability to control those in terms of where they’re located. We can’t tell them that they have to move.”

homeboy7 Sep 01, 2021 06:31 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

I guess posting photos on this site is not supported; but here is a link showing a small cell device on State St. https://www.independent.com/2018/09/15/what-5g-gives-and-gets/

ZeroHawk Sep 02, 2021 03:39 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

Homie...they were installed and not switched on. city council put a pause on it. there are a lot of towers and transmitters in SB, but a lot are 4G and most others don't even work or aren't switched on.

pstarSR Sep 02, 2021 04:19 PM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

he has a point..... if you read what hes saying. just cause they are on the poles doesnt mean they are active. I posted about Fiber cable being wrapped up near peabody for 5 years now. not hooked up

pstarSR Sep 03, 2021 11:25 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

ok so the reality of your communication is you want to sound special. buddy, seriously? get a life. you no where said "only these specific phones will show 5g" until NOW. you just blantatly said "cell phones show it"

wow I never knew cell phone shaming was a thing, id you care about that title buddy...... thats all you.

MarcelK Sep 03, 2021 11:32 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

You seem upset, PSTARSR, but the problem is yours, not mine, "cellphones show it" means that there are cellphones (like mine) that show it ... obviously not ALL cellphones
show it. I wasn't "shaming" you by stating the fact that the iPhone Xr is a budget iPhone (and was manufactured before there were *any* 5G phones. Sheesh.

MarcelK Sep 03, 2021 11:38 AM
Frontier Fiber Optic and 5G Internet Service

"you no where said "only these specific phones will show 5g"" -- Why should I have stated something that I would have assumed is a minimal basic understanding that I truly thought everyone has ... an older phone that lacks 5G modem hardware isn't going to magically show a 5G connection when 5G becomes available. My iPhone 3 in a drawer somewhere surely can't receive 5G, and neither can your iPhone Xr. I can't believe that you don't actually know this. It's bizarre that you have taken this turn to make it personal when issue is a factual one ... is there 5G in SB? Yes, there is, and cellphones show it. (Not every cellphone ever manufactured; duh.)

pstarSR Sep 03, 2021 11:40 AM
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Im not, I would have much rather have paid $200 for my xr, but its not "budget". Im sorry if you didnt research it before spitting out info that was false. anyone that wants to flaunt price as the main point of there "argument" on the internet, for sure the mad one..... and sad one.

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