Frog Wall Origins?

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By Ruth C.

I'd like to include the Frog Wall in my new book, Secret California: a guide to the weird, wonderful and obscure coming out from Reedy Press this spring. Do you have any information on the origins of the wall?

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SBLIFE Oct 11, 2020 08:59 AM
Frog Wall Origins?

Must we publicize every secret corner? It's more fun as a word-of-mouth secret. Publishing the location of small, fun, local attractions like this ruins the magic.

a-1602432865 Oct 11, 2020 09:14 AM
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The serendipity of discovery of this frog wall was part of its charm; not a forced march to complete someone else's checklist. Leave it alone. Just get out and explore your home town on your own - there are delights on every street.

REX OF SB Oct 11, 2020 09:34 AM
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I've lived here my entire life and I've never heard of it. I just Googled "frog wall santa barbara" and there are many entries that tell you everything.

d8vanilla Oct 11, 2020 11:18 AM
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Best not talk too much about the Frog Shrine.... It's a SECRET .... DO NOT give the specific location. There are really bad people out there that will destroy it, steal everything... etc.....

d8vanilla Oct 11, 2020 11:20 AM
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Ya, and do you want me to tell you address of the house that the Royals bought....??? So you can go bother them

Babycakes Oct 11, 2020 11:25 AM
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I heard that it was started as part of a feng shui gesture starting with a single ceramic figurine of a three-legged frog. A quick look on Googs rendered this result: "The frog is most famous in Chinese culture as a sign of prosperity. Ch’an Chu, the three-legged money frog, is a popular statue believed to attract or protect its owner's wealth. In feng shui -- the art of planning and building structures to maximize harmony between individuals and the universe -- frogs are recognized as a sign of affluence. ....." Here are a few other "hidden" SB gems that are in plain sight (but I won't reveal their locations): Gargoyle face house, Machine Gun house, Teddy Bear hedge house, Castle hedge house, Pig house (j-u-s-t on the edge of SB), and what I will call the "Dr. Seuss" house. It's no longer there, but on East Valley Road/Toro Canyon you could look up at a train trestle for a miniature train railway the the home owner set up on his property. I recall seeing it up until the early 80s (mever saw the train running on it though).

lovesbalot Oct 11, 2020 12:49 PM
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Next thing the land shark will be giving tours there. You're book is going to change secret places. Why do we have to exploit this for profit. Maybe we should all drive by your place for fun with a bunch of
tourists to google at whatever is going on there . Privacy much.

Getoffmylawn Oct 11, 2020 02:31 PM
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Keep up the disservice off complaining. It only intrigued the mind more. If nobody said a word i wouldn't have even looked at it. Good job idiots

tagdes Oct 11, 2020 03:50 PM
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There were 2 machine gun houses, the smaller one is is still seen easily off of Mission Canyon but the larger one, the 50 cal may be gone off of Toro Canyon and was just up the road from the trestle. The trestle has been gone since Seymore Johnson died. He started the live steam club and railroad at Hidden Oaks, called the Goleta Valley Railroad Club before moving up to Toro Canyon.

SBTownie Oct 11, 2020 05:17 PM
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I'm in my 30s and I quit social media, for many reasons, but among them the feeling that too much information was perverting and destroying the feeling of discovery, of serendipity, of magic or mystery to anything. I'm actually old enough to remember a time before every single thing was exploited and in a book or on social media or on a blog... and it was amazing. Travel back then was thrilling. Now, not so much. Even though I quit social media, no matter where I go I cannot escape the feeling that everything, everywhere has been blown up and there are no secrets or hidden treasures anymore and the hordes of people looking for the perfect photo ruin things. I would love to go back to a time when that wasn't so. It wasn't that long ago. No offense to OP. It's just sad that the world has so few secrets left. I regularly walk past the frog wall and to other places nearby I won't even dare name here... and I would hate for this route to be trodden by tourists. Sorry!

Curmudgeon Oct 11, 2020 11:00 PM
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Was never a really well-kept secret. Noozhawk did a feature with video about it some years ago.

a-1602510347 Oct 12, 2020 06:45 AM
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I haven’t walked past the frog shrine in at least 10 years, but out of curiosity I just searched for it on Google Maps, and it shows up (as “frog wall”).

bradleybennett Oct 12, 2020 07:27 AM
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So many mean and unhelpful responses here from people that seem to not want to allow others to experience the joy of something new. OP, I hope you found what you are looking for. Maybe your next book can be about the angry Edhat/Indy commenters who sit on their couches and hide behind their obscure handles to complain about any change in SB.

a-1602613184 Oct 13, 2020 11:19 AM
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Unhelpful, yes (by choice), but mean? Nope, no one is being "mean". Not giving someone what they want is not mean. You seem to not realize that once the general public gets ahold of a cute neighborhood treasure like this, it is only a matter of time until it is ruined and no one can enjoy it.

Thomas John Oct 12, 2020 07:40 AM
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Ruth, please don't include it. It's a miracle that is has survived and prospered this long.

kantanen Oct 12, 2020 08:33 AM
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And I echo Thomas John's comment, 'please don't include it' Ruth. We all want it to survive...thank you

Lucky 777 Oct 12, 2020 09:08 AM
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I used to brag to people that one of the best things about Santa Barbara was that at any time you could go somewhere wonderful with a great view and be alone. There were so many secret places, so close to the press of humanity, where time slowed down. Now, not so much. Revealing Roadside Attractions is one thing, but telling the voracious public about every quirky neighborhood feature just inevitably will lead to them being desecrated.

LCP112233 Oct 12, 2020 10:31 AM
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Most of you sound like a bunch of snobs. I used to go see the elephant seals up along highway 101 30 years ago before it was all fenced off. It was one of those lovely secret areas. More and more people came. It was upsetting at first, but as it turns out, it was a good thing. They are well taken care of now and have grown in population 10 fold. People are kept at a distance so as to not disturb their habitat. Discovery and sharing is not always a bad thing. Lighten up a little.

SBTownie Oct 12, 2020 11:46 AM
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Protecting a wild and natural species and drawing attention to them for educational purposes is a completely different issue than turning every single neighborhood secret into a tourist attraction.

Hammonds Hound Oct 12, 2020 11:31 AM
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I was shocked to read an article in this weeks Montecito journal about how our local trails and beaches are being invaded by social media followers. They are camping, having fires, and “car camping“ up at Hot Springs trailhead and in the neighborhoods near there. They are also car camping in the Miramar and Hammonds Beach areas. evidently tents, bonfires, and trash are now common place on Hammonds Meadow itself. So shocking and unbelievable to me.

noname Oct 12, 2020 12:02 PM
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This has been on my regular Dog Walk since the early 90's. There are definitely people who know the full story but this is what I observed: Along Paterna, there is an alcove that someone, my assumption was the neighborhood kids, used to adorn with small trinkets, vases, flowers, etc,. One of the most striking was a cute ceramic creature that looked to me like an alien. One day the figure was gone. a short time later a heartrending note appeared begging that the stolen "Frog" be returned. Within a short time, a different frog appeared in the alcove, along with the nite. Then another. Then another. From what I can tell, this all started with someone desecrating the shrine to begin with. I'm pretty sure that eventually, the owners of the house will change and the new owners will decide to clean up the shrine. Perhaps publishing a tourist guide would hasten the destruction of this neighborhood landmark the same way that the expanded knowledge base has destroyed many of the painted caves around Lizards Mouth. I'm afraid I fall into the "Keep it out of the Book" sentiment.

LCP112233 Oct 12, 2020 12:16 PM
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Thank you for the background though.

lmacartist Oct 12, 2020 12:36 PM
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I was the author of four editions of a guidebook on the Central Coast (now out of print). The impact of travel writing can't be overstated, and writers should be very careful about what they choose to include. I left out several "juicy" attractions because I knew the resultant extra visitors would not be good for the locations. Please, Ruth, the Frog Wall is in a quiet residential area, and is not suitable as a tourist site. Consider leaving this one alone.

REX OF SB Oct 12, 2020 01:48 PM
Frog Wall Origins?

Harry and Meghan can visit it if they get lonesome for Frogmore Cottage.

Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy! (A reference only the Serutan set will appreciate).

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