Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

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Update by the U.S. Forest Service
September 30, 2020
 

The USDA Forest Service Pacific Southwest Region has revised closure orders and fire prohibitions in California. These decisions will continue to be evaluated daily.

The revisions include:

1. Easing fire restrictions – Propane and gas stove use is now permitted on developed recreation sites on National Forests in California. Developed recreation sites are defined as areas which have been improved or developed for recreation such as campgrounds and day use sites.

2. Forest Closures – Six Rivers and Klamath National Forests are no longer part of the regional closure orders but may have local restrictions. Check the websites, social media accounts, or call those respective forests for specific information on what may be opening.

Seven National Forests (NF) in California remain closed: Angeles NF, Cleveland NF, Los Padres NF, Inyo NF, San Bernardino NF, Sequoia NF, and Sierra NF. This decision will continue to be reviewed daily, taking fire and weather conditions into account.

Eleven National Forests may be open to varying degrees. Visitors should contact the following National Forests for more information on their status: Eldorado NF, Klamath NF, Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit, Lassen NF, Mendocino NF, Modoc NF, Plumas NF, Shasta-Trinity NF, Six Rivers NF, Stanislaus NF, and Tahoe NF. For additional questions, please contact your local National Forest.

"We understand how important access to national forests is to our visitors,” said Randy Moore, Regional Forester for the USDA Forest Service Pacific Southwest Region.  “As we evaluate fire and weather conditions on a daily basis, we will continue to make adjustments to ensure safe visitation. Our aim continues to prevent any new fires on the landscape."

If you do intend to visit a National Forest that is open to visitors, we continue to recommend that you not travel long distances to recreate. If you or anyone in your household is feeling sick, please remain at home and plan your trip for another time.  All visitors should practice self-sufficiency during your visits to national forests. Recreating responsibly will help ensure that expanded access to recreational facilities, services, and opportunities continues. Responsible recreation practices should be maintained at all times, including:

• Maintaining at least six feet distancing from others

• Do not gather in groups and please follow the latest guidance from officials

• Communicate with others as you pass. Alert trail users of your presence and step aside to let others pass

• Pack out your trash and leave with everything you bring in and use.

• All services may not be available, so please plan accordingly.

The Forest Service manages 18 National Forests in the Pacific Southwest Region, which encompasses over 20 million acres across California, and assists State and Private forest landowners in California, Hawaii and the U.S. Affiliated Pacific Islands. National forests supply 50 percent of the water in California and form the watershed of most major aqueducts and more than 2,400 reservoirs throughout the state. For more information, visit www.fs.usda.gov/R5.


Source: U.S. Forest Service
September 28, 2020
 

The USDA Forest Service Pacific Southwest Region announces that current closure orders and fire prohibitions in California have been extended. This decision will be evaluated daily, taking fire and weather conditions into account. The fire prohibition includes building, maintaining, attending, or using a fire, campfire, or stove.

Nine National Forests (NF) in California remain closed, including Los Padres NF. This decision will continue to be evaluated on a daily basis.

“Continued closures are based on extreme fire conditions, critical limitations of firefighting resources, and to provide for firefighter and public safety,” said Regional Forester Randy Moore. “We understand how important access to the National Forests is to our visitors.  Our aim is to prevent any new fires on the landscape.”

If you do intend to visit a National Forest that is open to visitors, we continue to recommend that you not travel long distances to recreate. If you or anyone in your household is feeling sick, please remain at home and plan your trip for another time.  All visitors should practice self-sufficiency during your visits to national forests. Recreating responsibly will help ensure that expanded access to recreational facilities, services, and opportunities continues. Responsible recreation practices should be maintained at all times, including:
 
• Maintaining at least six feet distancing from others
• Do not gather in groups and please follow the latest guidance from officials
• Communicate with others as you pass. Alert trail users of your presence and step aside to let others pass
• Pack out your trash and leave with everything you bring in and use.
• All services may not be available, so please plan accordingly.

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trrp Sep 29, 2020 03:12 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

This is getting really old. Will they ever open our national forest? My fear is that this forest closure will become a new norm in fire seasons. I personally don't think walking in the woods or cold camping is a fire danger for the Los Padres. Closing front country trails is crazy.

SB_Dongs Sep 29, 2020 04:26 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

I have been trying to be patient and understanding with this but it's starting to get a little ridiculous, this is now an indefinite closure and I understand the strain on local resources if there were to be a fire but again closing the front country trails to hiking and biking is getting hard to understand. I completely understand not wanting to have people car camping, OHV or hunting for right now (not forever I'm very pro-OHV) but people should be allowed to hike and bike in the front country.

Chefvoigt Sep 29, 2020 04:36 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Hey guys come on I live up in Paradise Road and this year the Paradise Road canyon has see record visitors it was at full capacity and with hunting season open. There is just not enough rangers to take care of it, just one careless camper or day use guest and this place is toast. This is where I live and. If USFS says let's close it for safety I say yeah please. I live here and I really don't want to evacuate because a careless person. So @TRP think about it, I don't know where you live. But I hope you never have to evacuate or know your house is gone just because on person carless ness.

alorsenfants Sep 30, 2020 07:28 AM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Hey guys -- indeed! Last time I was at my usually empty swimming spot, beyond the First Crossing, in July -- a group of people were picnicking and building a fire using dry brush they'd collected nearby as kindling. Never underestimate the potential stupidity that's out there... The forest should be closed until it rains. Sorry

MountainMan4865 Sep 29, 2020 08:11 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

For a lot of us living in the LPNF, we're all breathing in the proverbial paper bag. The cause of the Cave Fire was never found... and there has been a ridiculous number of the fires up north in CA, OR, and WA that have been started by arson - just in the last two months. Every fire I've heard in the County in the last month, they are calling for an investigator. With the Covid thing, Painted Cave, E. Camino Cielo, and W. Camino Cielo have had traffice quadrupled, if not more. The roadsides are strewn with shitty toilet paper, used condoms, and campers at every turnout, some with camp fires.
We're doing everything we can to be prepared, but it there is some new fad with starting fires in remote areas, during fire weather... there lies the problem.

ChemicalSuperFreak Sep 29, 2020 09:31 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

MOUNTAINMAN: Totally agreed about the mess. The wife and I sometimes rock climb The Playground off E. Camino Cielo and one time discovered an improvised fire ring filled with ash and garbage (beverage cans, etc.). We dismantled the ring, scattering the rocks, and packed out the trash. It's disgusting. Sometimes we hike Romero or Arroyo Burro all the way up to W. Camino Cielo and often find empty 12-packs of beer bottles, many of them smashed and strewn about along with spent shotgun cartridges. The front country seems like a nice place to live, and it's too bad people don't respect it.

MountainMan4865 Sep 30, 2020 07:04 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

CSF - Thank you so much for doing that, really and truly. There is so much frustration up here right now. People walk up or down PC Rd and pick up trash, toilet paper, cans, broken bottles, and feel like they've made a difference, only to go down the next day and it's even worse. I truly believe people are good and well meaning, but it's so hard to mentally reinforce when you have the opposite staring you in the face.

a-1601619890 Oct 01, 2020 11:24 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Isn't it common practice to have a fire inspector? They're needed for all fires, it's how we find out the cause. It doesn't mean it was arson! Sad we have to rethink our beliefs that people are good, but hey, gotta look at the evidence. I lost my innocence decades ago. Be safe, good luck.

MountainMan4865 Sep 29, 2020 10:32 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

https://www.noozhawk.com/article/lompoc_transient_faces_four_felony_arson_charges

This one is about 4 separate people -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8721359/Evacuate-Wildfires-grow-Oregon-500K-flee.html

but wait! There's more

https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-wildfire-sweet-creek-fire-arson-arrest-sheriffs-office

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8731471/Man-45-arrested-starting-brush-fire-Molotov-cocktail.html

https://www.khq.com/news/arson-suspect-arrested-after-allegedly-starting-multiple-fires-in-spokane-on-monday/article_62df8a40-f223-11ea-8a02-af6f5dca5965.html

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/09/09/novato-police-suspected-arson-linked-to-three-fires/

Davy Brown Sep 30, 2020 09:06 AM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

agree with oops and trrp — REOPEN THE FORESTS! esp. LPNF. And keep even more extreme fire restrictions (=NO campfires, BBQ, stove, anything!). What's the point of having National Forests and supported by government if the People cannot access them?? What about the emotional needs of children and families and... It's too easy for Randy Moore to keep doing this... be more selective, Randy! Closing frontcountry trails in this time of need for free recreation is ridiculous. Get better enforcement vs. Mountanman's supposed 4 individuals...

LosPadresForest Sep 30, 2020 12:07 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Thanks for the patience everyone, hopefully just a little more needed. Temps this week are forecast to be in the mid/high 90's across the forest but should start cooling dramatically towards the middle of next week AND some long range potential for rain by the end of next week. Little patience, hopefully this is the final closure. Fingers crossed for safety followed by a grand reopening.

LosPadresForest Sep 30, 2020 03:00 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Check it out. Had to dig a bit but found a chance of 0.2" of rain next week. It's not too promising but gotta be optimistic, right? That being said, I think your dollar is pretty safe and I hope you lose too.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/santa-barbara/ext

EastBeach Sep 30, 2020 04:01 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Having spent a lot of time on public lands, I've learned you can't assume other users are as conscientious or safety-minded as you'd hope/expect. Unfortunately, that means things like usage restrictions and temporary closures. I wouldn't want to be a public lands manager in times like this, but more power to them.

Davy Brown Sep 30, 2020 07:15 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

OK East Beach, yet you keep driving a car and assume others are as careful asl you are... but some are not, so you'd also accept "that means things like usage restrictions and temporary closures." Hm, poor logic. What about the frontcountry trails, close them closed too? No fires near here at the moment, why be so restrictive , eh Randy Moore? Be more selective, open parts up, one size does NOT fit all.

SBLetsGetAlong Sep 30, 2020 07:58 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

The issue is no one today thinks about anyone but themselves. Hence the trash & stupor you with fires.
Considering most fires are man made & the lack of cognitive thinking we will never be out of the woods with wild fires.
Put up cameras at a trail heads & track who goes in & out? Micromanage every person going in?
Or totally shut down the great outdoors.
There are plenty of trails that have been closed even before the Thomas Fire.
It’s the great outdoors & the avg person has no concept of taking care of nature.
The lack of knowledge & lack of causal relation to fire & pollution is egregious & only getting worse the more detached people are from nature.
People think if you ride a bike or drive a hybrid car they’re being conscientious. While they throw their cigarettes, trash & gun out the window.
We need to connect people to the outdoors and have them realize what they’re doing in their absent mindedness

Any ideas?

PitMix Oct 01, 2020 08:57 AM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Sail, we're breeding like cockroaches and the climate is changing. If we try to all live in trailers in National Forests we will get burned out on a regular basis and people will die in a horrible way. We are at 8 billion and counting. The dream of everyone living in a single family home is not feasible. Having people live in dense urban areas and keeping the open spaces for recreation and agriculture makes a lot of sense, which is why we can't do it. Travel to Northern Spain to see what they have done there.

a-1601605917 Oct 01, 2020 07:31 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

Just because this is the last place for local, civil discourse... Ideas I entertain while staring out the window.... We had two years of mail theivery across the county. Rampant. Some arrests - most meth addicts. What we witnessed up here - checks, passport applications, credit card info - thrown into the bushes. Big stuff, packages and what not taken. Result? Lots and lots of cameras, accessed on line, installed. Your porch, your residence, heck - we've got one aimed at out mailboxes and have the possibility of tracking anyone that comes in or out of the community. Now everyone has cameras in their personal space. Not gonna talk about the Alexa thing- the mail theivery seems to have subsided. NOW, we have the homeless and meth addicts starting fires. Why? It's too damn hot for 'warming' fires, but this has been going on for months. Why are people who have been generally cited for possession suddenly switch to arson? The stereotype for an arsonist is a white male in their 20's. We've got white males in their 30's, in their 50's, a hispanic woman in her 30's set six fires on the 101 up North. Remember the woman setting fires downtown along the 101 just a few months ago? What the hell is up with that?
But now, the Forest is closed. As someone told me '"They're going to make you beg for it." Meaning the thing you would have fought so hard against (closing the Forest, closing businesses, regulating, snitching on your neighbors) and making it okay. It appears to be done.

dogsnsand Oct 01, 2020 01:22 PM
Forest Service Revises Closure Orders and Fire Restrictions in California

I'm frankly shocked reading these comments. We're in a pandemic and the worst fire season in California history. Closing the forests was a defensive move, unprecedented, and totally necessary. Look at the whiny attitudes here - 'well I shouldn't have to suffer!'
Do you not get that you are in not one, but two, disasters? Good heavens, learn to pull together for the good of all, please.

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