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On Monday evening, at the corner of Ortega and State Streets, a couple was approached by a man with a knife behind his back. Words were exchanged and the man with the knife charged the two people.
The video shows a struggle in the street between the two men. The man with the knife is seen kicking the other man in the face before running away.
Video was captured around 11:00 p.m. by a man from San Diego who happened to be in the area. The man with the knife confronted the man shooting the video, who then ran to a safe distance and phoned police.
It is unknown if the police responded as the reporting party did not remain on the scene.
Fight on State Street in Santa Barbara on October 7, 2024 (video by an edhat reader)
ANON – that’s absolutely bullshit.
“In 2021, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (26,328), while 43% were murders (20,958), according to the CDC.” – https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
20,958 deaths (and that is homicides ONLY) is not the same as 447.
For God’s sake folks, can we quit with absolutely outrageous lies here for a day?
In the comment your are referring to, I stated homicide by “RIFLE” fire was 447.
You can look up the original comment in the deleted comments.
STATS: In 2023, rifles were used in 2.6% of homicides in the United States
So……17,927 gun homicides in 2023………2.6% of 17927 is approximately 466.
The key word you missed was “rifle”.
The webpage referenced in your comment doesn’t have detailed information.
So, did I lie or did you misread my comment?
It’s a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth.
ANON – citing only rifle deaths is irrelevant and pointless. The facts I stated show your overall point is incorrect.
sacjon, looking back I noticed you never answered the question.
So, did I lie or did you misread my comment?
Which statement was untrue?
And, what was my overall point Mr. Banachek?
ANON – that’s what I’ve been asking here all along – what was your overall point?
Why cite only rifles deaths to compare to knife deaths? Why can’t you answer that question?
No, technically you did not “lie,” but by citing only deaths from a certain type of gun, and not one that is usually used in homicides, as a an attempt to say knives are more dangerous than guns, is just disingenuous.
I can no longer do this with you until you can answer my question. You’re simply making NO sense.
I already explained why I included rifle deaths in my original comment. The point remains: you are 3.8 times more likely to be killed by a knife than by a rifle. Most people are unaware of that statistic.
“According to surveys, a significant portion of the population overestimates the number of deaths caused by rifles, often believing that rifle-related fatalities are much higher than the actual data indicates.”
And why would I state the well-known fact that the number of gun deaths is greater than the number of knife deaths?
Also, most Americans are unaware that suicides represent such a high percentage of gun deaths. Perhaps that’s why you included that information in your original comment.
But here you go again: you write in this latest comment, “as an attempt to say knives are more dangerous than GUNS, is just disingenuous.”
You did it again. You just can’t stop.
I NEVER implied that. You intentionally (or mistakenly) inferred that I suggested knife deaths were greater than gun deaths.
Again, another red herring. You changed my comment from rifles to guns. You say I’m lying, and then proceed to tell an untruth.
I did say knives are more dangerous than rifles.
So, why did you respond to my original comment by calling my data points “absolutely outrageous lies”?
Persistent idiocy. How charming!
“I already explained why I included rifle deaths in my original comment. ”
No. You did not. We’re done. You can’t handle this.
I assumed you would have been able to infer the reason for including rifle deaths from the first two paragraphs in the previous comment. So, let me rephrase it.
You ask “what was your overall point?”
My point was……to inform people that knife deaths are greater than rifles death, because “a significant portion of the population overestimates the number of deaths caused by rifles”. And now, the 6 people that read the comment section, also know.
Oh, and here’s another stat, more people are killed by personal weapons such as hands, fist, feet, and etc. than with a rifle.
“You can’t handle the truth.” -Jack Torrance
LOL ok well, using your logic, guess what other gun deaths are lower than knife deaths? Black powder muskets.
Musket deaths are less than knife deaths. SO WHAT. Same with rifle deaths, SO WHAT?
So again, what was your point of only using ONE type of gun to compare to all types of knives?
You know what? Never mind. You won’t answer the question and you’re clearly irrational.
What was your handle again? I Know Nothing or something? I saw it in the deleted comments back when you started this absurdity.
In addition to his own psychosis, the knife whisperer is now quoting fictional psychotics. What’s the matter, was Hannibal Lecter already taken by your mentor?
There’s nothing so special as arrogant ignorance.
You were paltering, as seems to be your wont.
Lying by omission to try to make rampant firearm possession seem more benign is still lying.
If only we allowed cars on State St! Seriously though, I’d be a little pissed at my friend if he just slowly walked over to where I was getting taken down. Come on, dude! Back your guy up!
police chief gordon said its a challenge to patrol state street. Cops need there vehicles and perhaps the street should be open to vehicles.
It’s a challenge for lazy cops who don’t want to walk a few blocks. They never effectively patrolled State in their cars. It was always gridlock. The only cops that ever made a difference when I used to hang out downtown as a kid were the ones who were on foot, walking State and venturing into the nooks and crannies and alleys where people were getting high, minors were drinking and other shenanigans were happening. You can’t see that from a car on the street.
lazy cops who don’t want to walk a few blocks? lol i’m cracking up laughing. every cop i know in town is fit. this has nothing to do with “lazy cops” perhaps if you understood how their job works, how assignments work, how routes and daily ops work……
seems you and Alex have better policing ideas/concepts than our entire police department. dang….we should just fire them all and have you and Alex installed as Chief and Captain and you guys can show all of us how policing works, since you clearly know better.
KNEIN – you clearly didn’t really read my comment and perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. The point is, cops have successfully patrolled State by foot (and bike) and I think they can see and respond to crimes much better than by driving up and down in their cruisers. It’s pure common sense. They’ve done it in the past, they can keep doing it.
Main point: Cars not being on State St. is not the cause of all our problems. Give it a rest.
Calm down man, all I’m saying is that bikes and beat walking puts cops more in touch with what’s happening. Now tell me that cops don’t agree with that. Go ask your friends.
BASIC says ““Lazy cops”? Go yell defund them and then expect them to be perfect, everywhere at all times? Garbage. ”
Someone doesn’t know how to read. I didn’t call cops lazy, I said patrolling the street, like they used to do, would only be “a challenge for lazy cops.” You need help with understanding this language. Strike 1.
Never once have I said “defund the police,” either. Strike 2.
I don’t “expect them to be perfect,” either. I only said that they can efficiently do their job by walking the beat as they used to. What is a cop in a car supposed to do when they’re stuck in the State St traffic? Yell, “hey stop that!”? Dude, I grew up hanging out downtown and the cops used to be on top of it, walking and biking. They can still do that.
Strike 3 looking at a meatball. Ha!
Maybe someone could figure out how to take a bicycle and put an electric motor and battery on it or something like that. Then the police could patrol all over the place outside of their cars where they can actually see and hear what’s going on.
poptop, yes that would fix a lot of this mess. reopen the road. 100%
“police chief gordon said its a challenge to patrol state street. Cops need there vehicles and perhaps the street should be open to vehicles.”
She may have said the first part but the second sentence is your creation.
And this is why children shouldn’t be allowed to touch knives…
Always carry pepper spray.
LOL, good one. Because the video shows the difference between a gun and a knife. Young guy with the knife has to get into striking distance, lunges wildly, opens himself up to a counter. Now the unarmed victim has a chance to deal some damage.
Tell me how the unarmed victim does if the young guy is coming with a Glock or any other of your favorite pew pews.
Good job dismantling one of the gun nuts’ favorite stupid arguments that all objects are somehow equally deadly.
Suppose the victim was carrying. Probably might just show his glock to end the altercation.
Then, at least, they could have arrested the scofflaw with the pistol.
rube: non sequitur and unwarranted assumption
Was it an “assault knife”?
Oh, yeah, my bad the comment above was meant for you.
The man taking the video seems like a big man. Why not intervene for your fellow man? Even yelling might help.
Are you willing to get stabbed by someone or for someone you don’t know or are related to? I doubt it. I know I’m not jumping in if I don’t know either party.
This seems set up
What happened to the Deleted Comments, Ed? The button/links are still there, but they go to the Home page.
…Don’t know, it’s been like that for a couple days; I’d sent a “whinny” email to Ed, but alas?
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This is a glitch that will be fixed soon. Thanks for your patience.
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Thank you… I’d gone here to see something had changed;
https://www.edhat.com/about-edhat/comment-policies/
…other that the bolded items and missing pic {https://www.edhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/la-parking-sign_copy.jpg}, I couldn’t find the info I was seeking… (differences)
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…That was pretty quick! they’re back! This is great thanks…
Dang Dalgorf, take a break. No one’s interested…
Dang, Basic, stop trying to be an Edhat nanny, no one’s interested.
You misspelled “Anonymous,” BASIC.
Right? He sees that I posted several comments in a row (as people do) and then he offers his ridiculous (always) hypocritical (always) troll (always) comment *here*, where it isn’t a response to me or the article or anything remotely relevant.