Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

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Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?
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Local rally taking place at De La Guerra Plaza (file photo by Robert Bernstein)

By an edhat reader

The City of Santa Barbara is hosting a public workshop on March 9th to hear ideas on how to revitalize De La Guerra Plaza. 

One idea is to move the Saturday Farmer's Market from the Cota parking lot to the plaza. What do edhat readers think, good idea or no?

The workshop will also discuss the plaza's history and ask for ideas to make the space better, such as more parking, lighting, concrete or lawn additions. It'll take place from 2:00 - 3:00 p.m. on March 9th at the Casa de La Guerra courtyard and is open to all. Learn more here.

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a-1551509087 Mar 01, 2019 10:44 PM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Here’s how this will go down: The City will decide they need to pave DLG plaza. Because of their own SWMP standards, they will have to install permeable pavers instead of concrete, It will be great for the trees, etc, blah, blah, blah. Fiesta rolls around and hundreds of pounds of confetti get spilled all over the pavers and suddenly, they are not longer permeable....the end.

Factotum Feb 28, 2019 09:55 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Louise Lowry already paved parking lot is more bikeable and walkable too, since it connects to the Westside over the Anapamu Bridge and all the surrounding dense residential development in the West Downtown. If the city wants people to stop using their cars, then enhancing bike and pedestrian access to this part of town will open up at lot of State Street activity once they see that it is easy to use alternate transportation to get there..

a-1551373327 Feb 28, 2019 09:02 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Why not simply put the Farmers' Market in the OTHER city commuter lot at Castillo & W. Carrillo? For heaven's sake, DO NOT relocate it to State Street. People lose sight that State is the city's main thoroughfare and that its purpose is to move traffic. I go nowhere near downtown on Farmers' Market Tuesday because of the totally screwed up traffic.

ktnoodle1 Feb 28, 2019 02:35 PM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

A) I live 2 blocks from State and the heart of the farmers market and have never seen a large increase of traffic on my street nor on De la vina/ chapala due to the Tuesday night market.
B) WHO would want to take the lovely walk with scenic freeway views and sounds and smells to buy their fresh, organic produce? That is the last lot anyone wants to spend a Saturday morning in. (Also, right next to a freeway entrance/exit meaning high traffic and more dangerous for pedestrians.)

SantaBarbaraObserver Feb 28, 2019 09:14 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

State street isn't a thoroughfare, it is a very slow, stop every half block, "cruising" the town, type of street that people are FORCED onto by the traffic flow of neighboring streets. The entire premise that State St needs to be a traffic thoroughfare is based on 1960's life. People do not live, shop, move like they did in the past. Its time for this city to put the nostalgia in the can and create a city that actually works for the way people live today. In 20 years I cannot name a single time I've driven on lower State to save time. In fact, its a real pain of a street to deal with and so I avoid it as much as possible.

SBWalkers Feb 28, 2019 07:48 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Put it on State St, like Tuesdays because there is very very little traffic on Saturday mornings. De La Guerra is NOT setup for that. Grass with strollers/wheel chairs/other wheeled carts. Very little parking / loading-unloading for vendors, a lot less area than Cota. - DLG Plaza - Nope, it is a baaaad idea - State St, much better...

Factotum Feb 28, 2019 09:48 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Store owners hate it when State Street gets closed down for events - the reality is there is no increase in foot traffic to their businesses; just the opposite.

SantaBarbaraObserver Feb 28, 2019 08:31 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

This is far the biggest "duh" in the whole thread. Move it to State St! The whole idea that State St should remain a showcase for people in their cars to see retail, is so outdated. Shut down traffic from DLG to Haley, open up the street to small kiosk vendors and open air cafe's and make a permanent farmer's market (with stands). People will return to the street when there is something to do, buy and see. They do not care about 99c stores or crappy tee-shirt shops. Give the residents something to do and they'll do it... I really cant think of anything more SB than the decade of public discussion, dozens of consultants, $100's of thousands of dollars wasted on trying to figure out what to do with the declining downtown. Its so obvious and so easy. But our leaders continue to prove they're incapable of making decisions or pushing any change. Absolutely inept...

bradleybennett Feb 28, 2019 07:47 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

This seems like it could work. I think we need to give the idea due diligence to see what the city is willing to do to improve the park to host it. For example, if the whole area was made flat to encompass the entire area and done with some form of attractive hardscape, the plaza would be more usable in general. Farmers Market could encompass the entire area as well as De La Guerra street, possibly Casa de La Guerra for some smaller vendors. It is centrally located and as others have mentioned would bring more foot traffic to that area of downtown. We regularly wish there were more nearby breakfast options near the Saturday market to eat after going shopping.

a-1551343459 Feb 28, 2019 12:44 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

De La Guerra Plaza? No. Grass gets wet; even overnight without rain it will be damp in the morning and possibly slippery. Grass gets muddy. Grass lumpy, not as friendly for older folk or baby stroller pushers. More money spent on upkeep for the green grass area. Difficult for vendors to unload. Parking around there is shockingly bad. (I don't know why people think it's better.) I agree re: Louise Lowry Davis Center. Unless, of course, it would displace any group already making use of that space on Saturdays (lawn bowlers?).

a-1551375890 Feb 28, 2019 09:44 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

The plaza grass currently is mainly used by groups of street people. Covering the plaza with pavers, like old European plazas, seems like a great solution. The Farmers' Market, Fiesta, etc. can be held without concern for muddy or slippery grass.

a-1551365791 Feb 28, 2019 06:56 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

They're planning to get rid of the grass and make it all pavement. At least, that's what some on the council want. Seems very too bad to pave over the last public commonx space in Santa Barbara and to lose the only Saturday open space to the farmers market which, although fun and great for tourists is too e pensive for most Santa Barbsrans.

a-1551306536 Feb 27, 2019 02:28 PM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Who cares where the market is held? It's not the location that makes a farmer's market successful but the vendours and their produce. And it's not like the location is being moved to a dump or anything. As always ask a hoard of folks their opinion on a matter and you'll get a hoard of opinions. Consensus?? Fugetaboutit!

a-1551290064 Feb 27, 2019 09:54 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Great idea

There's plenty of parking nearby on street & in City lots, stores will also benefit from more foot traffic passing by than they do now (practically zero due to current location) thanks to being closer to the downtown businesses & in the heart of the State Street businesses. This sounds like a win-win for all.

Flicka Feb 27, 2019 09:48 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

De la Guerra Plaza sounds like a good place for a Farmers Market but I don't think it's big enough to hold all the vendors that are at the Saturday market at the old Lincoln School grounds where it has been for years.

a-1551295631 Feb 27, 2019 11:27 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

I think it could work because of the street perimeter. If you look at Google Maps satellite view of the Cota lot, it's actually taken on a Farmer's Market day and you can see how the vendor vehicles actually stay parked next to/behind their stands, which takes up a lot of space. If the street surrounding De La Guerra Plaza is reserved for vendors, I think it could all fit easily.

a-1551295339 Feb 27, 2019 11:22 AM
Farmers Market Relocated to De La Guerra Plaza?

Not really, there's a lot more city parking lots closer to De La Guerra, Ortega structure as well as Paseo Nuevo is only a block away. Lots 4 and 5, closest to Louise Lowry, are chronically full at any time of day. I agree that street access (for vendors especially) will be hairy, but they make it work for Fiesta, I don't see why it couldn't work for Farmers' Market.

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