Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

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I'm new to the area and have been exploring Eling's Park. I particularly enjoy the side where mountain bikers, joggers, and walkers can take various trails to the top to enjoy a beautiful ocean view.

Although I'm confused if there are rules about the bikers and walkers. I'm a walker and I feel as though I'm constantly in the way of mountain bikers barreling down these narrow trails. Are some trails for bikes only? The signs aren't helpful. Thank you.

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letmego May 04, 2021 04:22 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

I hike Elings frequently. If I see a mountain biker coming, I find a spot to step aside and let them go on, despite signage that says I have the right of way. This may be because I used to ride my bicycle a lot (but not a mountain bike), and I know it's a pain to get on and off - it's easier for me to step aside.

EastBeach May 01, 2021 01:58 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

I grew up living next door to Caesar Uyesaka who was one of the founders of Las Positas Park (now Elings Park). He was an avid Dodgers fan (UCSB's baseball stadium is named after him) and along with other local sports/athletics icons like Jerry Harwin (anyone have one of his trophies?), Bill Bertka (scout for the Lakers back then), and many others helped make Elings Park a reality. I think it's important to remind ourselves what their vision for the park was and still is today
... http://www.elingspark.org/a-message-from-the-park/ ... https://www.facebook.com/ElingsPark/videos/485099492641722/ ... http://www.elingspark.org/park-history/

Bird Apr 30, 2021 01:34 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Why not petition the Elings Park Foundation asking there be several days a week that are free of bicylists and open to pedestrians and equestrians only?

a-1619819042 Apr 30, 2021 02:44 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Bird’s idea sounds good. If you can get a substantial number of pedestrians and equestrians to lobby for that, they might be receptive.

Lucky 777 Apr 30, 2021 12:46 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Just so you get things accurately, the trails were laid out in the 1950's-60's by Dudley Thompson and José Magaña for horses. There was a nearby stable and they did pony club for children who lived on the Mesa. I myself learned how to ride on those trails, and they were used by horses, my mule, and people walking, usually with dogs. Now the bicycles make any equestrian use almost impossible. As has happened to trails all over the front country, bicycles make other uses so dangerous that they end up with the trails all to themselves.

K9karma Apr 30, 2021 06:48 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Elings Is a private park and it’s not maintained by the trails associations or have the rules that are being described above. I walk there every day. The trails are multi use and all users should respect each other. However, dog owners pay to use the park unlike everyone else. So we are covering the cost of maintaining the park whereas cyclists are using it and wearing it down without paying for it.

pkww Apr 30, 2021 10:53 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Sage is not my organization but I do contribute to them, and I suggest other trail users consider donating, too! They are also great promoters of trail etiquette (along the lines of the original post here).

EastBeach Apr 30, 2021 10:26 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

I was wondering who was doing maintenance on those trails. I'm out there enough where it's very noticeable - good work! Found your website here .... https://www.sagetrail.org/academy/

pkww Apr 30, 2021 07:10 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Mountain bikers maintain and improve the trails in Elings Park year-round, on a volunteer basis and through the non-profit Sage Trail Alliance. They are, broadly, excellent stewards and the park would be worse off without them.

EastBeach Apr 30, 2021 12:56 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

OP - Elings Park is a non-profit organization and they have a map of the south park here ..... http://www.elingspark.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/EP-South-map.pdf .... the map doesn't show all the trails (for example the one that has a trailhead at Las Positas & Cliff) but does identify the hiker-only trails in blue. Trails for hikers/bikers are in green. The south side has historically been used a lot by mountain bikers and previous maps have identified which trails were part of the downhill and cross-country courses. They've been temporarily closed off to hikers when races are held but are multi-purpose most of the time. Per general convention, mountain bikers always yield to hikers. I've been riding @Elings for decades and I'll always stop earlier than usual if the hikers are elderly or have kids. Before I stop, many hikers will signal me it's OK to ride through and step off to the side for a moment. For the mountain bikers, the convention is the rider going uphill has the right-of-way. But these days, especially at Elings, many downhill riders won't yield to the uphill rider. There are a lot of newbies and frustrated trail users out there these days but it always pays to be considerate.

EastBeach Apr 30, 2021 01:04 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Forgot to say ... as of last week, there were three llamas at the top of the south side. If you want to see them, they might still be there.

PitMix Apr 29, 2021 07:39 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

The signs have a triangle of hikers, horses, and bikers. Horses have the right of way, bikes yield to peds. If a biker hits a hiker and sticks around, they will have a nice lawsuit on their hands. A little courtesy goes a long way no matter how you are locomoting.

RHS Apr 29, 2021 06:50 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Bikers have become the most selfish group in the community. Endowed with some exalted sense of righteousness they do not traffic (!) with pedestrian (!) concerns. To tell people on a walkway that they should just get out of the way is incredible. We are seeing this same attitude take over local streets and neighborhoods. Let's not idolize this question. Bicycle riders, by and large, are hobbyists. Their preferences for non=stop bike lanes through the town should be secondary to the needs of the working people they are disenfranchising. If you want to ride your bike, please accommodate the legitimate concerns of people walking, driving, parking on the route. The burden is on the bikers, not on the 98%.

LCP112233 Apr 30, 2021 09:31 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

I hear what you are saying Zerohawk. But I see bicyclists challenging cars on the road pretty much daily.

ZeroHawk Apr 29, 2021 04:44 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

yeah that is called being smart...step aside and allow the bikes to pass. pretty simple folks...do we really need a discussion about this? whats next? challenge a car on the road moving at 25 mph?

gtr Apr 29, 2021 03:19 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

There are maps available on the Eling's Website. Some trails are supposed to be for hikers only, but I still see some bikers on them, just not as many as the multi-use trails.

asitis Apr 29, 2021 03:03 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Everyone is supposed to share, but just so you know, most trails on the ocean side were built and maintained by mountain bikers since the 1980s. There's lots of other parks and trails to enjoy in SB, go explore and have fun!

letmego May 04, 2021 04:33 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

I'm half with PIT and half with ZERO here. The "bike path" at the beach is clearly marked as a multi-use path beach way. As far as I can tell, the spandex crowd sticks to the road, as they should.

That little section of multi-use path really is the best place to teach kids how to bike. It's great for rollerbladers, runners, recreational cyclists, and those 2 to 4 person bike-thingys that tourists like. I could do without the walkers who walk 4 abreast, but then again I'm also not a fan of the bicycles on the sidewalk.

Eggs Ackley Apr 30, 2021 12:20 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

ASITIS Your claim to Elings park is so 2020, and counter to the wishes and intentions of the family that created the park. And just so you know, ALL the front and back country trails were built and maintained by hikers and equestrians since time immortal. Suggest you let your mountain biker friends know, and check that sense of entitlement while you’re at it. There are lots of other trails to explore. Try heading out to Hungry Valley or East Camino and explore, have fun!

a-1619791579 Apr 30, 2021 07:06 AM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

I occasionally take my smallish dog on it in off hours —- it is now called a “beachway” and is a place for ebikes, especially. Most of them are going quite fast and it is dangerous for small dogs. ...others use the sidewalk. The City does favor bikes, including ebikes, over other means of travel! It would be or might be helpful if the city would stencil NO BIKES on the sidewalk or maybe get Councilmember Jordan there with his stick. Or maybe pedestrians should walk on the grass or on Cabrillo Blvd?

PitMix Apr 29, 2021 07:35 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Zero, the name of that path is a beachway and everything goes on that path. Much to the dismay of the spandex crowd that would like to barrel down that path. Really no self-respecting bicyclist would go on the beachway, they would crank their 3 lb titanium bike on the road like they always do.

ZeroHawk Apr 29, 2021 04:46 PM
Eling's Park Walk/Bike Path Rules?

Asitis, 100% solid and correct. Same with the BIKE PATH along the beach. It's a bike path. There is a 20 foot wide sidewalk about 3 feet away from the narrow bike path that has directional arrows painted on it and a yellow line to separate lanes...something you don't see on sidewalks, right? that's because it's a path for bikes. not people walking cluelessy around or walking their dogs on (and i own a dog and am an avid biker....id NEVER take my dog on a bike path....that's just dumb as dirt and dangerous).

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