Dogs in Restaurants?

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I bought a sandwich at South Coast Deli. As I was waiting I saw a dog partially standing on a table. I was floored that the owner allowed this considering that someone else would sit there soon, but I also noticed that the staff did nothing. Is this now allowed by the Health Department? It seems strange, but with the radical changes in Santa Barbara I'd say anything is possible now.

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SoapBox Feb 18, 2019 10:59 AM
Dogs in Restaurants?

Dogs are allowed at outdoor dining areas in SB, since 2011, at the discretion of the establishment. And subject to criteria outlined by the Health Department.
1 – All surfaces on the patio will be cleaned and sanitized (114115.b, 114117(a)(5))
2 – Table tops will be sanitized between each seating of patrons (114083)
3 – Dogs will not have contact with dishes, utensils, tableware, linens or paper products used by patrons (114074)
4 – Food and water served to dogs will be in single-use, disposable containers (114081)
5 – Food spilled on patio will be immediately cleaned up (114257)
6 – Restaurant employees will not touch or pet dogs while working. If they do, they will wash their hands. Restaurant employees will be trained on this requirement for hand washing.114259.4
7 – Food facilities not meeting the conditions for safe patio food service with animals on the premises, will be cited for violations of the Health and Safety Code. (114259.5, 114397, 113980)
https://countyofsb.org/uploadedFiles/phd/PROGRAMS/Environmental_Health/Food_Program/DogPolicyOutdoorDining.pdf

a-1550518944 Feb 18, 2019 11:42 AM
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With the right dog, these canine-friendly restaurants could save money on utilities and wages. My dog, for example, would keep the floors clean and even pre-wash the dishes. She's always eager to assist where food is involved. Which is why I leave her at home. :-)

a-1550516488 Feb 18, 2019 11:01 AM
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OP HERE:. The dog was INSIDE the Restaurant. That should be clear from the photo I sent, which wasn't used. I didn't write anything about a patio.

therealbebe Feb 18, 2019 11:06 AM
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"That should be clear from the photo I sent, which wasn't used." Really? Anyway, how about talking to the management of South Coast Deli, rather than putting them on public blast? That's called stirring the pot.

mattyboy Feb 18, 2019 12:13 PM
Dogs in Restaurants?

This town is full of a-hole dog owners - taking their dogs into food-related businesses & letting them crap all over parks and park strips. Yeah, ask me how I really real...

a-1550521657 Feb 18, 2019 12:27 PM
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A finger-wagging narc shared with the health department artfully disguised as an innocent inquiry. Ohhh-Kay. I'll bite.
If a dog's paws are the worst thing that rests upon a restaurant table, we should all be thankful. OP please research the amount of fecal matter found on cell phones. Look up which germs/bacteria found on the floors of restaurants are transferred to tabletops when a woman's handbag or or some shopping bag resting on the floor is then moved onto the tabletop. Please ponder the infinite amount of microbes contained in those damp used-over-and-over cloths the busboys/wait persons drag across the tops of the tables in between seatings of restaurant patrons. ("Sanitized?") If taking into account outdoor tables, please consider how many times you've seen some ignoramous 1/2-seated or fully seated on a tabletop. Dogs' paws don't give me pause so much as does human-shared "dirt."

mattyboy Feb 18, 2019 01:04 PM
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Triggered. Another dog owner that thinks we should all be subjected to their wonderful pet and its bodily fluids.

therealbebe Feb 18, 2019 01:38 PM
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I don't think the OP is a "finger-wagging narc". Seems like a genuine concern and I'd be annoyed, too. No doubt there are some seriously co-dependent dog owners out there. I just think the issue is better taken up directly with the restaurant owners, who can actually do something about it. Also, there are people with severe dog allergies who don't expect dog hair on their dining tables.

a-1550523201 Feb 18, 2019 12:53 PM
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I'm not saying this about all dog owners in Santa Barbara - but there are a lot of entitled dog owners in Santa Barbara.

horsegirl Feb 18, 2019 01:40 PM
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Who knows, they might have said something before you got there. If the woman said her dog is a service dog, they might have just kept quiet from there (even though they’d be within their rights to tell her to leave/get her dog off the table) because they didn’t want to cause a scene or have to deal with any issues the woman might raise, given that the law is very strict on what can/can’t be said and it’s easy for a situation to turn into a he said, she said mess. It’s impossible to know the entire story unless you are that woman or an employee of the sandwich shop. Personally I would have just asked the employees about the situation in the moment

a-1550527821 Feb 18, 2019 02:10 PM
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A service dog should be sitting or laying on the floor. Not with it's paws, or anything else on the table.

Abc109 Feb 18, 2019 03:34 PM
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PSA - Service Dogs are NOT the same as "Support Animals." Restaurants, retails stores, etc. are NOT legally required to allow "support animals" inside their premises. Service Dogs are trained for a specific task, i.e. helping to guide their owner, etc. "Support animals" are not trained for a specific task. As the owner of a business, you are legally allowed to ask if an animal is specifically trained. If the answer is No, you do not need to allow them in. Period. The real shame is that there are those with bona-fide needs for a Support Animal. The co-dependents and narcissists among us, however, have ruined that.

horsegirl Feb 19, 2019 10:52 AM
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I am well aware that a real service dog should/would be on the floor. I am also well aware of the difference between support and service dogs. I’m merely saying that it’s entirely possible that staff did say something to her about the dog before op got there and she might have gotten snarky so they chose to just wait for her to leave rather than have her create a scene.

a-1550606741 Feb 19, 2019 12:05 PM
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The dog owner created a scene by having the dog in a place that she shouldn't have had it, along with the dog not just sitting or laying down as a service dog is trained to do. And, I suspect that there may be people who don't, or won't return to the shop because of it being allowed.

horsegirl Feb 19, 2019 11:08 PM
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I think were in agreement here... im just saying that often times restaurant employees are hesitant to raise a stink about a person who claims their dog is a service dog, even if it is acting poorly, given that there is a lot of misunderstanding about what the laws say they can and can't do about a service dog in their establishment. The law really seems to favor the service dog owner, and even if the employees are within their rights to say something, the person can easily go onto social media or review websites and publish their "side" of the story which can spell bad news for the business, even if they're in the right.

a-1550527961 Feb 18, 2019 02:12 PM
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I was in a restaurant patio area, and the woman put her medium sized dog on the table, bottom down, and she fed the dog from her fork. It's unfair to ask wait staff, who are making minimum wage, and hoping for tips, to tell these rude people to stop. Managers should be tasked with this growing problem. Health, folks! Health! I don't go back to restaurants where dogs are allowed inside. Why? Because I'm afraid the dog owners are mentally impaired.

Z Feb 18, 2019 03:15 PM
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I've just about given up looking, still can't find dog on a Santa Barbara restaurant menu.

420722 Feb 18, 2019 03:42 PM
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Real Service dogs are well trained, sit on the floor and are never fed from the plate. They don’t beg, bark or try to get up on the chairs and table tops. OP that was definitely NOT allowed but like someone else mentioned it shouldn’t be up to the employees to enforce this violation it should be up to the owner or the manager. It’s too bad people have taken their affection for animals so far. Not everyone likes them. I don’t mind them but don’t want to eat dinner with them or on a table they were just sitting on.

shorebird Feb 18, 2019 04:48 PM
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Some people who claim that they have an emotional support animal are actually the emotional support animal of their dog.

a-1550540347 Feb 18, 2019 05:39 PM
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Any Dogs in restaurants - NO!
Service Dogs that are licensed & certified trained - OUTSIDE ONLY
This entire "comfort/service" dog thing is beyond out of control especially on planes! The last four flight we've taken the past two years have all had at least two dogs on board. Seriously! Put it in a dog crate & let it go in the under cabin storage section for pets. It won't freeze to death, etc.
Don't like that?
Either leave the dog at home OR don't travel.

Easy-peasy

winter Feb 18, 2019 06:16 PM
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I can't believe all these hateful comments..
Take my dog, about once a week to the outside seating area of local eateries.
A friend, watches my dog when I go in to order...
Most dog owners, do the same thing..They usually have separate entrances..

Potif Feb 18, 2019 07:12 PM
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The problem is that it isn't ALL dog owners that do the same as you do. The few that don't are in the wrong, and cause problems for others, like yourself. I like most (well behaved) dogs, but wouldn't want to see any part of one on a table in a restaurant inside or outside. It is a health issue, and a problem for those who are allergic to them.

tinker1 Feb 18, 2019 07:45 PM
Dogs in Restaurants?

Got my haircut the other day at a salon. A young girl comes in for an appointment no explanation has her dog. My hairdresser the owner says if the licensing board decided to come by she would be cited. Entitled to bring your dog anywhere ? NO

a-1550549871 Feb 18, 2019 08:17 PM
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WINTER, I like dogs. But do all of us a favor and leave your dog at home with his bowl of food when you go out to eat around humans.

a-1550554071 Feb 18, 2019 09:27 PM
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psssss......it's not a secret anymore. Dog owners have gone too far. The end.

sbpajuco108 Feb 18, 2019 09:30 PM
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You ever been to Mesa Cafe there’s always Dogs there but outside on the patio and Creekside restaurant/bar very dog friendly I really don’t care as long as there not bothering me or barking

a-1550558722 Feb 18, 2019 10:45 PM
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I thought I was the only one who was getting annoyed at the explosion of entitled dog owners bringing their dogs everywhere. I am feeling a bit better now that I have seen I am not the only one. My biggest peeve with dogs these days is dog owners letting their dogs run loose on every trail in our area. No concept that wildlife has a right not to be terrorized in this way. (Not to mention that hikers have a right not to be terrorized in this way.)

Red Creek Feb 19, 2019 09:04 AM
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Not to mention the poop and urine that sticks to our shoes.

a-1550584043 Feb 19, 2019 05:47 AM
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Van Do-Reynoso, MPH, PhD, Director Public Health Department S.B. County Public Health Dept., 300 San Antonio Rd., S.B. CA 93110. Telephone: (805) 681-5102. Her mission: https://www.countyofsb.org/phd/admin/director.sbc . or --- Environmental Health Services: 225 Camino del Remedio, Santa Barbara, CA 93110 Telephone 805-681-4900 . Email: phdehsweb@sbcphd.org . https://www.countyofsb.org/phd/ehs/cal-retail-food-code.sbc

a-1550584644 Feb 19, 2019 05:57 AM
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I have a very sweet and friendly pet white rat, Siegfried. Since food/restaurant patios are pet friendly, I'm going to take my rat with me today for lunch. It's my pet, and emotional support, and the restaurant can't discriminate against me, or my pet. The dogs won't mind. Like dogs and cats, rats can be the source of disease (so, I'm going to take it to Cottage Hospital today for letting people pet/touch it), "Transfer occurs when fleas from the rats bite human beings. Fleas transported on rats are considered responsible for this plague during the Middle Ages, which killed millions. From the transmission of bubonic plague to typhus and hantavirus, rat infestations can prove harmful to human health." I love my rat and I insist you look the other way, just like dog owners.

a-1550585830 Feb 19, 2019 06:17 AM
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TYPHUS. Pasadena CA reported epidemic levels of typhus fever in 2018 when 20 Pasadena residents were confirmed to have typhus fever, "We encourage pet owners to practice safe flea control.” Pasadena Public Health Department. In Oct. 2018, there were 57 cases of flea-borne typhus in L.A. County. In S.B. you don’t know if an animal has just come off a hike in the mountains and is now sitting next to you, your children, anyone with autoimmune illness, your own pet. The homeless with their dogs have every "right" to bring dogs into restaurants. It takes an instant for a flea to jump off an animal onto a human or another dog. COTTAGE HOSPITAL, are you listening?

pstarSR Feb 19, 2019 07:47 AM
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I like animals, haved had many pets over the years. dogs, cats, birds, mice, snakes, etc.

but I cant stand how people abuse the service animal thing, I cant stand when pet owners force their pet on you when you are in an area where NO pets should be. I understand some pets can handle this, some can actually be perfectly fine. but thats not why we have rules, because of the ones that are fine. We have the rules because some are NOT fine, NOT clean, NOT reasonable.

a-1550593530 Feb 19, 2019 08:25 AM
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County Supervisors, Ask them to enforce health codes vigorously (all restaurants should have sign in window NO PETS): Das Williams, Phone: (805) 568-2186, E-mail: dwilliams@countyofsb.org ; Gregg Hart, Vice Chair,Phone: (805) 568-2191 .E-mail: ghart@countyofsb.org; Joan Hartmann, Phone: (805) 568-2192 ,Solvang: (805) 686-5095 ,E-mail: jhartmann@countyofsb.org ; Peter Adam, Lompoc: (805) 737-7700 ,Santa Maria: (805) 346-8407 , E-mail: peter.adam@countyofsb.org ; Steve Lavagnino, Chair-Santa Maria: (805) 346-8400 ,
E-mail: steve.lavagnino@countyofsb.org .

a-1550593654 Feb 19, 2019 08:27 AM
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LOCALINSB, were you served your sandwich directly onto the table? No plate, no paper wrapping, no clingfilm? Your food was never in direct contact with any area the pooch touched with his paws. People with far more questionable hygiene have touched and slathered on these outdoor surfaces that have probably not been washed since they left their manufacturing plant. So you're grossed out... fine. Get over it.

a-1550594321 Feb 19, 2019 08:38 AM
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ADDENDUM - Babies are allowed to touch and crawl over tables used for serving food. Have you seen babies wash their hands before coming to the table? Have you seen where babies go and what they touch or even bring to their mouths? Way more disgusting than dogs. Now had you been talking about the outdoor tables at Arigato I'd be right with you at keeping pooches floored but SoCoastDeli?? That's on the par with Starbucks and I'm sure you've seen WHO uses the outdoor tables there.

a-1550596810 Feb 19, 2019 09:20 AM
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True, but I've yet to see a baby lick its own butt.

PitMix Feb 19, 2019 08:59 AM
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In situations where it is not obvious that the dog is a service animal, staff may ask only two specific questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? This applies to the business staff, but I guess members of the public can ask as many rude questions as they want? I love dogs, and have 3, but I have a niece who is really allergic and will break out in hives if she touches a place where a dog has been. So we need to try to keep the public areas safe for her.

4358ed Feb 19, 2019 09:12 AM
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just before Christmas, I saw a dog poop in CVS. The owner was there and was clearly distressed about it, but she let the dog continue its business. She then used a bag to collect it and put it in her purse. Gross and gross.

oops Feb 19, 2019 09:17 AM
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Dogs are not people. The shouldn't be allowed in restaurants or stores. Finally, Costco banned them. I do not want a dog interactions at home depot or any other establishment

poptop Feb 19, 2019 04:59 PM
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it's good to know which merchants ban dogs.

Flicka Feb 19, 2019 09:35 AM
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I always had dogs and never took them into town. They ran free at home, went to the beach and for walks but not into others' territory. They only got in the car for going to the Veterinarian. Why are people so insecure they need to take their "dog/children" everywhere?

MasterChief Feb 19, 2019 09:41 AM
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The more I'm around people, the more I prefer the company of my DOG'S! Think we'll all go out for lunch today. Animals are cleaner than Most people I see in local establisments,Better Manners Too!

PitMix Feb 19, 2019 10:34 AM
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Another one of the "I love dogs more than people" people. I love my dogs, but not more than people.

MasterChief Feb 19, 2019 09:43 AM
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If you don't want to be around our furry buddies,You are free to go Elsewhere.

poptop Feb 19, 2019 05:01 PM
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let the merchant know if you prefer dogs or not. they can decide what is best for there business.

SantaBarbaraObserver Feb 19, 2019 10:44 AM
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Every woman I know who has a condition that requires a service animal (and yes, they're all women) also happen to be wrapped up in pseudo-science and crockery. Whether its the latest cure all trend (cumin this year) or the insanity of being anti-vaccination, I see a correlation between those who distrust medical science and rely on their feelings to guide their health choices and the sudden need for a service animal at their side at all times. Feelings are not facts people...

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