Dog Park on State & De La Vina

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Does anybody have more info or know who’s paying for the Dog Park being built near State and De La Vina?

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sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 08:36 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Taxpayers are paying for it. It was budgeted around $285k. Actual bids and approval is over $700,000 !! Ridiculous amount to spend. The extra also includes taking out some cement paths in park and putting them back. The park and recs folks told me the paths were being replaced with water permeable paths but that is not the case. So much money. Park is set to open may 2019. Two months later than first anticipated.

PitMix Apr 22, 2019 08:50 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Everything costs at least that much these days. That's about the same cost for them to build the roundabout at Cliff & Las Positas, which consisted of paving a circle and adding lights and landscaping. By the time you hire someone to do the EIR, then the pre-design, then the final design, plus get public comments and respond to them, the actual construction is not the biggest part of the total cost. And that figure probably doesn't include the labor cost of all of the City staff working on the project. But the consulting firms making a bundle off of these project really appreciate the work.

Factotum Apr 22, 2019 09:11 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Now that city council cronies pass the Public Labor Agreement requiring only union workers on city projects, expect local tax-dollar funded projects to cost even more. This is what you voted for. Not sure why, but you did.

Factotum Apr 22, 2019 09:16 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Parks and Rec Dept gobbled up the vast majority of new Measure C tax dollars. Meanwhile nothing is getting spent patching and repaving our terrible streets which remain in appalling condition. City will demand a new tax to get that work done. These are city council priorities chose by those you voted to represent you. Too late, there is no money left now for repairing virtually all of our streets which have been terribly damaged and riddled with potholes after the rains, due to their poor maintenance before the rains.. Environmental activists assaulting local fossil fuel extraction have increased the costs of asphalt as well, even though we have the potential for plenty of local asphalt production right in Santa Barbara county. One more way the city wants to force people out of their cars - make the city streets unusable.

sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 11:01 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

I have no idea. It is very disappointing. But I was there when certain sections of the path were being replaced.

sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 11:01 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

I have no idea. It is very disappointing. But I was there when certain sections of the path were being replaced.

sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 11:04 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

The issue is when the neighborhood meetings were held, one price was discussed. To be over double that when finally approved, that is ridiculous

sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 08:37 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

If you have more questions, let me know. I've have had conversations with many city folks about the park

a-1555948204 Apr 22, 2019 08:50 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Get the money back by charging admission to the Dog Park. All the large bolders they brought in to the park must have been EXPENSIVE to truck in (from Montecito?).

sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 10:59 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Boulders were already there. Nothing was moved in regarding the rocks. Just rearranged. I know for sure because I asked the person in charge of the project

Factotum Apr 22, 2019 09:09 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Costs of chronic drunk, public urination, aggressive panhandling and vagrancy police calls in this same area added up to even more than the cost of the dog park. Good riddance to this long-standing nuisance. Local residents wanted a dog park for years - finally some city tax dollars spent on law abiding, tax paying residents. Good call, City of Santa Barbara. This State Street area for too long has been a vagrancy crime magnet.

sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 10:58 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

They are still there. They will move back to the "monument" that is now located inside the dog park. The vagrants will not move on.

SantaBarbaraObserver Apr 22, 2019 11:49 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Maybe the bums should move across the street to that dilapidated old gas station known as McKenzie Market. How that place continues on as a pseudo market is a long standing mystery among many in this town. Its neither a functioning market or a garage, just an old ugly building with a yard full of crappy old cars and bikes. The very definition of blight.

a-1555960193 Apr 22, 2019 12:09 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

SBOBSERVER - you obviously are pretty out of touch with the area. That "market" is an amazing "deli" and one of the few places in the area to get a real gyro! Yanni's is the best! Go enjoy the "mystery" and become enlightened!

SantaBarbaraObserver Apr 22, 2019 12:17 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

I walked in there a few years back and immediately walked out. It was as filthy and barren inside as it was outside... Maybe things have changed but I would not eat anything from that place and frankly, would like to see the city's health inspection report on it. Do they even have a license to prepare and serve food? I'm all for holes-in-the wall, but that place is something else. Nothing about it seems 'kosher' or clean or even legit.

a-1555960894 Apr 22, 2019 12:21 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

SBOBSERVER - google it. It's been around for a few years and has 4.5 star rating on Yelp. It's definitely not a "mystery" in this town.

SantaBarbaraObserver Apr 22, 2019 03:23 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

What? I've lived here for over 20 years. I believe I even bought gas at that place way back when. I never mentioned Yanni's let alone attacked. The place you cite as "to die for", doesnt even have a sign! The only calling card outside is an old, decaying Mackenzie Market Deli sign placed right above "Custom Choppers". There are dilapidated cars /trucks in the lot, a mishmash of materials strew around and the only indication that its anything but a junk yard is a Gyro banner loosely tethered to the side of the building. If that is what you consider endearing and representative of small town Santa Barbara, you're a bit off for my tastes... But If you do like these kind of places though, they're all over the south. You'd probably fit in down there. Lots of 'locals' down there also call their sister their cousin...

a-1555973121 Apr 22, 2019 03:45 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Sbobserver - you're NOT a local, plus you have never even eaten there so please spare us your "taste."

All Sides Apr 22, 2019 06:44 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

I do believe that that market may be the last Greek food in town. And Mrs. D was an excellent human the last time I talked to her.

a-1556029073 Apr 23, 2019 07:17 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

ALL SIDES yes, his mom made me a greek salad one day - it took awhile but it was YUM, she reminded me so much of my own grandmother. Is she still alive?

a-1556029074 Apr 23, 2019 07:17 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

ALL SIDES yes, his mom made me a greek salad one day - it took awhile but it was YUM, she reminded me so much of my own grandmother. Is she still alive?

k8b8b Apr 22, 2019 09:53 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

On a more upbeat note I have a dog and have noticed what a great job the city has been doing lately about repairing the sidewalks. They have made several sidewalk repairs in a very timely manner as not to disturb residents to much. I'm really excited to have a dog park open in that area. A lot of people have dogs and are appreciative to have nice sidewalks to walk them and an off leash park to run. There has also been street re-pavement going on in several areas around town. Especially happy Cathedral Oaks is getting a new surface.

a-1555956409 Apr 22, 2019 11:06 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

K8B8B. And yet the small sidewalk repairs I requested on 114 West Valerio St. approx. three months ago remain undone.

a-1556034324 Apr 23, 2019 08:45 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

3948--wow! The failure to do your bidding is a serious proof of the poor government we must endure! I vote we storm city hall or public works or something and get our due....!!!!

a-1555955846 Apr 22, 2019 10:57 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Dog Park? Forget it!

Take them over to the Wilcox Property & let them run loose there amongst the dog piles, flies & other unsavory artifacts created by irresponsible dog owners & their furry friends. At least the few neighborhood cats I see once in a blue moon bury their stuff.

a-1555961113 Apr 22, 2019 12:25 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

0226/10:57 a.m. Oh, yeah. Z-z-z-z-z-z. That same old saw about dog poop. When's the last time you went to The Wilcox? When will this urban myth about The Wilcox being rife with dog poop die? Dogwalkers pick up the poop. There are no flies, no fleas, no "unsavory artifacts." Go see for yourself before laying it on thick about the non-existent "piles."

a-1555956229 Apr 22, 2019 11:03 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

I'm certain there are people here on Edhat who know much more than I regarding this new place for off-leash recreation. Please enlighten me. I have a couple questions: (1) Why is the off-leash space at the east end of the park when the parking lot is at the west end? (I know there is street parking at the east end, but what a recipe for disaster----unloading dogs near that traffic zone.) (2) Does the City really expect small dog and large dog enclosures at one end of MacKenzie (correct spelling) Park to be large enough to accommodate a copious amount of off-leash dogs? It seems to me the enclosures will be far too small and will be overwhelmed by users. Am I wrong?

sbmh2015 Apr 22, 2019 02:46 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

City does not care is answer to both your questions. This has been in work for a long time. I went to all the meetings. Your two questions were asked. City gave that blank stare that they always do. The concerns of the residents in that neighborhood were brought up. The city DID NOT care.

mattyboy Apr 22, 2019 11:40 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Where do I submit my application for my free, taxpayer funded hobby space? I don't have any dogs...

SantaBarbaraObserver Apr 22, 2019 11:54 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Mattyboy, havent you been on here proudly citing how you're a homeless guy who lives off of other people's money and compassion by getting anything and everything you can for free? And yet here you are asking for more, for free... Therein lies your problem MattyBoy and is the #1 reason you're exactly where you are in life...

a-1555960487 Apr 22, 2019 12:14 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

MATTYBOY: Taxpayer "you" already has tennis courts, soccer fields, football stadiums, baseball diamonds, lawn bowls, picnic areas, etc.

PitMix Apr 22, 2019 12:02 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

0.3 acre for the big dogs, and 0.2 ac for the small dogs. Bigger is better, but 0.3 ac is about 13,000 sf, or about 130 ft x 100 ft. That's pretty big in SB terms. Anyway, it is better than they have now, which is nothing.

a-1555960737 Apr 22, 2019 12:18 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

There's no way on Earth it's 0.3 acres for one of those enclosures. That's a huge area. I'll believe that when I see it.

PitMix Apr 23, 2019 09:12 AM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

That's what the project info said, I don't have any info to show they are lying. Do you?

a-1555961910 Apr 22, 2019 12:38 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

Is there going to be 24 hour security or do we have to chase the homeless away with our dogs when we arrive?

a-1555991807 Apr 22, 2019 08:56 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

0802/12:38 p.m. Of course there won't be "24-hour security." One thing I do know is that more than one breed of dog doesn't cotton to homeless people. Must have something to do with scent and possibly erratic movement, too, I think. On more than one occasion my dog (110 lb buttercup) would go into stiff-legged, hair on end all up her back stalking mode whenever we encountered a homeless person. On three such occasions, it was just my dog and me and the unknown bedraggled stranger in a (then) lonely location. Each time I pretended like my dog was a force to be reckoned with. Thereafter, at all three sites, I never again saw those undesirable persons. One incident took place at DFP and the other time was Summerland Beach. The third time was at the Bird Refuge, north side of the pond. You better believe I was happy my dog "took umbrage" to those transients. I foresee dog vs. homeless confrontations at MacKenzie Park but, hopefully, none will result in any harm done.

420722 Apr 22, 2019 07:18 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

I look forward to this dog park. The corner of that park sucked anyways. The only thing that was there was some boulders, passed out bums and beer bottles.

a-1555989011 Apr 22, 2019 08:10 PM
Dog Park on State & De La Vina

I agree with 722. I called the City and asked that the workers clean up the fence area where the homeless have been putting lots of their trash. I also called Quality Inn to ask them to monitor and report when the homeless hang out on their wall on DLV. I think they did and I think I see a sign now posted there. These homeless must be sleeping in the bushes behind the homes that border the park. The camps need to be cleared out. When the dog park opens, everyone will need to work hard to keep it clean and functional as a dog park, not a homeless hangout. Reporting vagrancy, obstructing pedestrian traffic on the sidewalk and panhandling at Trader Joes and at the intersection of STate and DLV will make the police do something.

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