Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

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Dr. Lynn Fitzgibbons, Chair of Infectious Disease at Cottage Health, and Carolina Arias, Ph.D. share the latest information and data on COVID-19.

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ChemicalSuperFreak Jul 15, 2021 09:03 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

“Thus, variant Delta spread is associated with an escape to antibodies targeting non-RBD and RBD Spike epitopes.” (Ref. 1) This quote is from a peer-reviewed paper just published online in the prestigious journal Nature on July 8, 2021. They continue, “Our results demonstrate that the emerging variant Delta partially but significantly escapes neutralizing mAbs, and polyclonal antibodies elicited by previous SARS-CoV-2 infection or vaccination.” The New York Times (Ref. 2) summaries a few of the recent evaluations of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine against the delta variant, with varying outcomes: 88% (Britain), 87% (Canada), 79% (Scotland), 64% (Israel). This data, combined with the staggeringly large number of deaths of fully vaccinated individuals in England, is why Los Angeles is restoring the mask mandate for everyone, including the vaccinated. I expect that Santa Barbara Public Health is evaluating whether to follow suit.

(Ref. 1) Planas, et al., Reduced sensitivity of SARS-CoV-2 variant Delta to antibody neutralization, Nature, 2021. (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9)

(Ref. 2) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/06/science/Israel-Pfizer-covid-vaccine.html

a-1626411534 Jul 15, 2021 09:58 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

9:03 - Just more FUD from you. The performance of the three approved vaccines has been exemplary. Only a fool expects 100%, but blowing the few breakthroughs out of proportion is just irresponsible nonsense.

In particular, your statement about "staggeringly large number of deaths of fully vaccinated individuals in England" is total BS, inserted by you to spread fear.

The mask mandate is only necessary because so many people aren't vaccinated. Vaccination is the key component in defeating the pandemic.

Byzantium Jul 15, 2021 06:25 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

Is there another election coming up? By golly, there is. Everyone back to your bunkers. Recycle, reuse and repeat endlessly your exact same catch phrases and political alignments. In for another bumpy ride until the Recall election is over. Still no accurate test, no real vaccine, no "death" numbers not materially tainted, and no explanation of severity of "cases". Just numbers, just meaningless metrics without context. But instantly cue in the Zombie Apocalypse II scenario for those who want to show "they care". There are still lots of letters left in the Greek Alphabet for endless variants, though the combination Tau-Delta-Sigma have already been taken. Now, shall we hold China accountable for this or not?

dw2000 Jul 15, 2021 05:29 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

ABC New LA Wed July 14t: Los Angeles County official Dr. Christina Ghaly says unvaccinated people now account for all COVID-19 hospitalizations at county-run hospitals. "To date, we have not had a patient admitted to a DHS hospital who has been fully vaccinated with either the J&J, Pfizer or Moderna vaccine," said Dr. Christina Ghaly, director of the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services, said Tuesday. "Every single patient that we've admitted for COVID has been not yet fully vaccinated."

dw2000 Jul 15, 2021 06:06 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

I really don’t know. Maybe because vaccinated people can still get covid and contribute to the possibility of a mutation? Maybe they don't trust people who say they are vaccinated so just make everyone comply until numbers go down? Maybe the act of wearing a mask causes people to subconsciously be more careful in other ways? Maybe something totally different or some combination. I am fully vaccinated and haven’t been wearing a mask indoors. I hate wearing masks but have done so whenever called upon to do so since the beginning of Covid. personally, I just feel the health officials are genuinely motivated by trying to get us through this thing, rather than some type of control experiment. I realize there could be a level of incompetence that causes overreaction, but I would rather an overreaction than an under reaction.

sbdude Jul 11, 2021 10:09 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

People who have studied molecular biology, epidemiology, human anatomy, and medicine for decades: Get vaccinated, wear a mask in certain situations, social distance when appropriate.

People who watch a couple of Youtube videos and cut-and-paste from gadfly doctors' sites: Bullshit.

dukemunson Jul 12, 2021 01:12 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

And presumably the only reason they suggest/require masks in these settings is they don’t know who’s been vaccinated… so it’s easier to just mandate that you wear a mask on a bus or plane then go through the hassle of coming up with a vaccine id mandate that would obviously ruffle some feathers. You can obviously use that to justify masking forever if you would like… but like the anti-vax campaign, it’s truly silly. Still masked up while driving alone 1212pm?

dukemunson Jul 12, 2021 01:04 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

Masks are advised in hospitals, senior care facilities, busses and planes for the protection of others. At this point everyone that can should be vaccinated… so yeah unless you are going to a hospital or senior facility it’s silly. Using your logic we’re going to be masking for the rest of our lives as the flu is also quite deadly.

Get vaccinated and ditch your mask… it’s really quite simple. But sure save one for all the time you spend at the hospital… which is how often for most?

dukemunson Jul 12, 2021 01:07 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

Marcel - It is your choice to wear a mask everywhere… just like it’s your choice not to get the vaccine. Both are silly choices that are more reflective of a narrow and politicized world view. As per the cdc today, fully vaccinated don’t need masks, and the few settings where they are required are for others. And it’s a narrow few scenarios that most people aren’t encountering in their day to day life.

MarcelK Jul 12, 2021 12:19 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

Intelligent people should ignore fundamentally dishonest people who say it's your choice while at the same time demonizing and misrepresenting you. And ignoring them should go beyond this issue, because that fundamental dishonesty--a corrupt moral core--manifests in other areas as well.

dukemunson Jul 12, 2021 09:08 AM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

Were you one of the people pushing schools closed for the whole year… directly against CDC and WHO guidelines?

And the CDC is saying fully vaccinated people don’t need to wear masks in most settings (and pretty much every setting a local sb edhatter would find themselves in)… so what are you pushing here (other than more anti-cdc guidelines)? Get the vaccine… and once you do (as per the cdc!) you are good to go!!!!

dukemunson Jul 11, 2021 02:29 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

You can “forever mask” if you want… but it’s rather silly in most day to day SB situations at this point. Like the anti-vaxxers, the forever maskers aren't following logic or science…

MarcelK Jul 11, 2021 09:34 AM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

As I have noted before (ignored by mathematically incompetent sources of disinformation), as more people are vaccinated, the larger the percentage of cases will be in people who have been vaccinated, while the absolute number of cases goes down. In the U.S. in areas of low vaccination (red states), virtually 100% of cases are among the unvaccinated.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jul 09, 2021 06:40 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

For a preview of what’s to come, one only needs to look at the numbers coming out of England. Public Health England has a number of technical briefings they’ve release over the past month that cover the impact the Delta variant is having (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201). The briefing numbers and dates are as follows: Briefing 15 (June 11), 16 (June 18), 17 (June 25) and 19 (July 9). Noteworthy are the deaths from the Delta variant, broken down by vaccination status. Initially the unvaccinated made up the largest percentage of deaths attributed to the Delta variant, at 55%, with the fully vaccinated being 29% of those deaths and the partially vaccinated at 17%. One month later the partially vaccinated have held steady at just over 17% of the deaths, but the fully vaccinated and unvaccinated have switched places---unvaccinated are only 36% of the deaths while the fully vaccinated are now 46% of the deaths. If you look at the trend, week to week you can see the reversal. Here it is for the unvaccinated over the month: 54.8%, 46.6%, 37.6%, 35.8%. Now look at the fully vaccinated: 28.6%, 35.6%, 42.7%, 45.9%. Most of the deaths are in the over 50 years category, as when this pandemic first started. If our leaders react to this data the same way they did back in early 2020, expect to be locked down again with mask mandates by the fall, regardless of vaccination status.

a-1626397478 Jul 15, 2021 06:04 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

5:28 - More FUD, as usual. The performance of the three approved vaccines has been exemplary. Only a fool expects 100%, but blowing the few breakthroughs out of proportion is just irresponsible nonsense.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jul 15, 2021 05:28 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

Vaccine-resistance is a legitimate reason to insist on masks, granted. However, the performance of existing vaccines against the delta variant is certainly contributing to this decision. Analyses of recent data, not the initial trials on the wild-type virus, have firmly demonstrated that the existing vaccines are not affording the same protection against the delta variant. This health order will protect the vaccine-resistant population, as well as those who were convinced that vaccinations make you invulnerable.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jul 15, 2021 04:29 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

This Saturday Los Angeles county, the largest county in the nation, will restore the mask mandate. Everyone must wear a mask, regardless of vaccination status, exactly as I predicted.

MarcelK Jul 11, 2021 09:40 AM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

"Definitely over-hyping the significance of the statistics of small sample sizes."

Actually, the sample sizes are quite large ... but note that they aren't given, only the percentages, from which utterly bogus inferences are made. As more people are vaccinated, the larger the percentage of cases will be in people who have been vaccinated, while the absolute number of cases goes down. In the U.S. in areas of low vaccination (red states), virtually 100% of cases of Delta are among the unvaccinated, but you will never see FUD-spreading cherry pickers mention statistics that don't support their bogus claims.

Sun Jul 10, 2021 01:59 PM
Cottage Health Experts Provide COVID-19 Update for County

Simply, If vaxed and unvaxed wear masks indoors in all public places it would help slow down the virus. Due to increased cases, LA has requested masks indoors.

Warning that fully vaccinated may be spreading Delta variant as cases rise across US
Christopher Murray, director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, told Insider that the spread of the Delta variant could actually be worse than current data suggests.
“CDC guidance is not to test the vaccinated [unless they’re symptomatic], so we’re probably missing a bunch of transmission in vaccinated individuals,” Mr Murray said, who is the lead modeller at the IHME, which the White House has leaned on when making pandemic policies.
https://news.yahoo.com/health-experts-encourage-vaccinated-wear-205127388.html

CDC is making the same mask mistake they did when the pandemic started.
Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks before the first officially reported cases.
Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts -- were infected with coronavirus days or weeks before any cases were officially reported in those states.
Volunteers taking part in the National Institutes of Health's All of Us study, an ongoing effort to gather health information on 1 million people, donated blood as part of the study. Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early 2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people, the All of Us researchers reported in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/index.html

Help slow down the delta virus, mask up indoors where people gather.

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