Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

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New Santa Barbara Police Department rendering on E. Cota Street.
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Source: City of Santa Barbara

Much has happened over this past year with the development of the new Police Station since the City Council selected the Cota Commuter Parking Lot as the preferred site alternative for environmental review.

As part of the preliminary environmental review the property was thoroughly studied and 30% drawings for the Police Station were developed.

The unveiling of these conceptual plans will be on November 16 at the Architectural Board of Review meeting. The public is welcome to participate virtually. 

Learn more about the upcoming meeting here.

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PitMix Nov 10, 2020 12:40 PM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

Sac, are you saying they have the money to move ahead with this after all of the losses in the last year? Unless it is all grant money from the State, something has got to give. Unless you are voting for a tax increase?

sacjon Nov 10, 2020 02:01 PM
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PIT - I have no idea if they have money for it. I thought they did and assume it comes from our taxes. I'm happy to have my tax $$ go to something like this. Vote for an increase? Maybe, but not if it's solely to fund this. I'm happy to pay taxes so the schools, infrastructure, cops, first responders, etc have what they need. It's part of living in a civilized country.

ZeroHawk Nov 10, 2020 02:56 PM
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Pit @1240- they do NOT have the funds any longer. this is more tax dollars being squandered. The entire thing has been shelved as of April, so I really question this whole post. I have friends in the department, i get my news...somewhat first hand ;)

a-1605035711 Nov 10, 2020 11:15 AM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

It's pretty annoying that people don't understand what defunding the police actually means. "Stop killing minorities and send out social workers for mental health responses and strip police unions from protecting bad cops and charge officers who break the rules" is just too darn long.

a-1605120873 Nov 11, 2020 10:54 AM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

“Defund” is a poor word choice. Normally defund means stop giving money. Maybe it would be better for the movement to come up with a better slogan— “refund,” or some pithy phrase that actually explains what is meant.

biguglystick Nov 11, 2020 01:20 PM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

711, THANK YOU. This is exactly right. I'd like to see all the money going into this new Police Palace going to local schools and drug addiction rehab facilities. Giving young disenfranchised kids options and better more integrated education access will prevent crime.

Basicinfo805 Nov 10, 2020 12:11 PM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

The "Defund the Police" movement has to do a better job of making it clear what they're really asking for then, doesn't it? What you're saying is a completely different goal. And having anarchists rioting doesn't help your cause either.

Voice of Reason Nov 10, 2020 01:24 PM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

There were much fewer law breakers (and a lot less physical violence) among the open carry group than the rioters / anarchists. More than either, I'm worried about the hypocritical politicians that turned the other cheek to the rioting because they were more focused on their own reelections rather than doing what's best for their constituents.

sacjon Nov 10, 2020 01:50 PM
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VOR - how many people were killed by "rioters?" Also, remember, it's been proven time and again that many of the violent riots were started by members of far-right groups trying to instigate violence.

Voice of Reason Nov 11, 2020 02:00 PM
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@Bigugly, not sure which post you're replying to but nothing I have written on this page could be described as even close to "patently untrue". Unless you're entire basis for truth comes from MSNBC and CNN then I can see what you think what I posted was patently untrue. That doesn't make your statement true though, nor mine untrue.

sacjon Nov 11, 2020 04:33 PM
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DOULIE - Sure thing. Here you go:

- https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homeland-supremacists/a-trump-security-chief-acknowledges-role-of-white-supremacist-extremists-in-u-s-urban-violence-idUSKBN26031F

- https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/2020/07/27/police-richmond-riots-instigated-by-white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter/

- https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536

Not going to do all your research for you, but there are some starting points.

sacjon Nov 10, 2020 03:24 PM
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WESTSIDESAM - we do have a choice where our taxes go every time we vote! But, that's also the problem with such a divided country. Each time there's a new election, half the country is stoked, the other half is not! Look what's happening now lol!

doulie Nov 11, 2020 03:36 PM
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WESTSIDE - Isn't it great that you have the "option" to call a social worker or any other person if you get involved in a situation that calls for cop. The person that prevailed in an election is the person that decides where your tax dollars go.

LooseCannon Nov 10, 2020 06:14 PM
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Judging from the rendering, this new facility appears to be about three times the size of the current police station on Figueroa. I am not aware of any massive increase in crime that would justify such an expansion. If the jail project is anything to go by, the eventual cost will far exceed the original estimates. It seems like a poor decision to build such a facility when revenues are collapsing because of COVID restrictions. I understand that the current facility is out of date, but perhaps it could be retrofitted for earthquakes, or maybe a more modest structure could be built somewhere on Calle Real near the prison and social services.

Ahchooo Nov 11, 2020 10:58 AM
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I think the problem has been that the current police station is inadequate, and some things have been housed in other locations. I agree, we don’t need cushy, large offices, but for decades they’ve been saying they are hampered by inadequate facilities. Surely the city council has analyzed this?

doulie Nov 11, 2020 03:57 PM
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LOOSE CANNON -The size of the building should house all the staff and equipment needed in a comfortable environment. I doubt the council has allowed any luxuries. Crime stats don't determine what the size of the building should be, but it should be of sufficient size to work in to deal with crime for years to come. It's not just the building that has to be dealt with but the availability of parking. Don't expect anything to be built here on time and under budget. PS: Calle Real is in the county.

RHS Nov 10, 2020 06:25 PM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

Let's be adult about this. Whatever we think of police practices generally or locally, the present facility used by SBPD is a dungeon. It hardly breeds a positive attitude among its inhabitants. A nice facility that was less daunting to the public would be good for all of us. Considering how much money we waste on other stuff, this is a good thing.

a-1605066674 Nov 10, 2020 07:51 PM
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An aside: I worked at a County facility that had windows facing the wrong way to get any sea air. It was regularly in the 90's for several months of the year. No AC. It ... um... s*cked. But hey, every appliance in the bathroom worked. It does make a difference to workers, and I do support the PD having a new building. I'm also all for consent decrees on police departments and an overhaul of our criminal justice system, state and federal.

Babycakes Nov 11, 2020 09:57 AM
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The vast majority of us in the city/county of Santa Barbara look forward to the new police station, and want nothing to do with the "Defund the Cops" crowd. For a looksie at what happens when you actually defund the police, look no further than this week's news: "Minneapolis is scrambling to draft in cops from outside the city's force to help fight a wave of violent crime just months after it began moves to defund its police. The city is pleading for reinforcements from the sheriff's office and the transit authority to help respond to a surge in violent 911 calls." Notice that they are not calling for social workers to help quell the raging crime there. Thank goodness that I live in SB, as I've seen crime and its effects first-hand in Chicago, Orlando, Seattle, Portland, Oakland, Baltimore, and plenty of other places. Fewer cops with less funding is not what we need, and you don't send social workers to 911 calls.

biguglystick Nov 11, 2020 01:25 PM
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Babycakes, Minneapolis couldn't be further from Santa Barbara in every way. We do not have a massive increase in crime here. Most of the time I see cops overreacting here, like 7 cop cars to pull over one vehicle. That is unnecessary and a huge waste of our tax dollars. We pay them. I do not want my money going to build this massive facility.

PitMix Nov 12, 2020 07:35 AM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

Baby, this is why there's a problem. "At last check, 175 police officers have taken disability leave, for both physical and mental health reasons, since civil unrest in May." Police officers abandoning their jobs, in part because they can no longer murder black civilians without any accountability and they don't feel "supported". So if our choice is to keep the status quo or lose the current police force, then we better figure out what we are going to do when the current police force (most of whom support Trump based their union endorsements) disintegrates.

dukemunson Nov 12, 2020 02:01 PM
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But Pitmix, you should love this as it's right up your union loving alley!!!! How many Edhat posts do you have in the last 3 months on how much you love unions...15...20? You should love that these union members aren't having to work if they don't want to, but are still still getting full pay... I mean common...unions...hooray!!!

biguglystick Nov 11, 2020 01:22 PM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

I do NOT want my tax dollars going to police funding. I want my tax dollars going to kids, especially kids at risk.... I want my tax dollars going to education, disease prevention and birth control access, gang reform, drug rehabs. Working directly with at-risk members of our community will prevent crime. Not giving the cops a giant roomy deluxe new mansion to loaf around in.

sacjon Nov 11, 2020 01:31 PM
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BIGUGLY - Do you really think we can do without a police force? If our taxes don't pay for it, who will? It's part of living in a civilized society. We need enforcement of our laws, that's what the police are here for.

PitMix Nov 12, 2020 07:26 AM
Conceptual Plans for Police Station Project to be Unveiled

Uh, you guys know that the police force is a relatively recent invention, right? 1st one in Boston in 1838. They initially replaced the private security that was hired to protect goods and transport. I think they were also very useful in strikebreaking once people tried to unionize. I hope they are designing this building for the new hybrid police force where we only have 50% sworn officers to respond to the 25% of calls involving weapons and violence, and 50% community service officers and social workers responding to everything else. Could save a ton on money because police salaries and pensions will eventually break our bank.

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