City's Land Development Team Seeks Feedback

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The City's Land Development Team is seeking input following changes to the development review process. We are launching a Land Development Customer Experience Survey to get feedback on this past year's changes and to request additional input on ways to continue to improve and expand our services. This survey is for both our "frequent flyer" customers as well as infrequent or one-time permit seekers.


This survey is for people who have done business with the City of Santa Barbara land development process at least once since July 2020 (in the past 14 months or so), when some changes to the process were made. Please answer the following questions to the best of your ability based on your own experience and opinion. There are no right or wrong answers and your responses are confidential. Instructions for submitting any additional comments you may have can be found at the end of the survey. Thank you!

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PitMix Sep 21, 2021 10:14 AM
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Got a 2 story ADU going in our mostly single story neighborhood. Neighbors were not informed, especially adjacent neighbors. Upstairs unit is allowed big windows so that adjacent neighbors do not have privacy. New unit is bigger than original house. Plans are not available for review and there doesn't seem to be an appeal process. No additional parking required for double the number of people.

Coming soon to your neighborhood.

Chip of SB Sep 21, 2021 11:28 AM
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Pit, our city has steadfastly opposed development since the 1970s and was very successful at it. After decades of burdensome permitting processes, subjective architectural review requirements, and expensive additions to the building code, we now have a severe housing crisis. In response, the state has voided local restrictions. Homeowners can now add ADUs, and the city can’t do much to stop them. Single family zoning is now void along with any CC&Rs that would interfere with building and renting ADUs. In addition, the governor celebrated his landslide win in the recall election by signing SB 9 which will allow property owners to split their lots and build a duplex (possibly up to four units with ADUs) on each resulting new parcel. If a property is in the city or an unincorporated urban area, the owner can split it into two lots of roughly equal size as long as the lots are at least 1200 square feet. That’s small even by Santa Barbara standards. Your neighbor could build a lot more than a second story, and there won’t be any more city council meetings to review and approve their plans. Per state law, any proposal that complies with the rules must be approved.

Voice of Reason Sep 21, 2021 02:09 PM
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They'll complain about those consequences yet continue voting for representatives that put party politics ahead of their constituents.

a-1632260401 Sep 21, 2021 02:40 PM
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It’s telling that neither Limon or Bennett voted on these two bills when they were going through the state legislature. They were part of several state reps with no vote recorded. Sad they couldn’t stand up for their communities because of the need to tow the party line.

Zenyatta19 Sep 21, 2021 02:59 PM
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And it’s only going to get worse. That is just the tip of the iceberg. No notice, no design review, no environmental review, 4 ft setbacks, no public hearings, and fast tracked ministerial permits. All the hard work our local planing departments and public advisory committees have put into community plans is out the window. SB9 & 10 will be detrimental for a sustainable ,sensible and resilient community. Our natural resources, geography and infrastructure simply do not support uncontrolled development.

a-1632262388 Sep 21, 2021 03:13 PM
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A home in a single family neighborhood down the road built a 2500 sq ft second story addition then illegally turned it into 4 separate units. Today 21 people with 17 cars live there. Multiple noise complaints as well as complaints regarding illegal units have been made to no avail. Now it’s perfectly legal. This quiet street has turned into a parking lot/ junkyard . The huge second story towers over the neighboring homes looking directly into their backyards and bedrooms. Imagine if every house on that block did the same? That’s what these new laws will allow

Byzantium Sep 21, 2021 06:04 PM
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Both abstained on this, they did not vote no. That would be too principled. They tried to have it both ways - keep the local voters happy with an abstention, and not alienate their party bosses by going against their "progressive" policies, but only after enough votes for passage were secured elsewhere. Keeping Democrats in safe seats with feinted abstentions mattered more to party bosses, than absolute loyalty to the party agenda once they knew they had enough votes for passage. Limon and Bennett sold us down the river and never forget this.

Byzantium Sep 21, 2021 12:14 PM
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Santa Barbara voters back in the 1970's conducted an advisory vote election, which stated they did not want this town to grow to more than an 80,000 population. Planning documents and development policy reflected this advisory sentiment. No law was enacted to limit population; but a clear majority of voters stated their wishes. Slow growth was the will of the people. And remains so even today. Ventura offers the same weather and ocean location,, but does allow a lot more growth, density and building height. If this is what you want, then there are options out there, so there no reason to turn Santa Barbara into Ventura County.

JoeG Sep 21, 2021 01:00 PM
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Newsom (right after he survived the recall) obliterated density zoning restrictions. The “progressive” fools can now QUADRUPLE development on a single-family-dwelling lot. And the city can do nothing to stop it.

JoeG Sep 21, 2021 12:20 PM
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The “progressives” are killing the goose that lays golden eggs. Sad to see the haters win. They ruin everything they touch. Established neighborhoods are just the latest victim of the destructive “progressive” mindset.

JoeG Sep 23, 2021 07:39 PM
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We’re talking about SB9 and how it will ruin neighborhoods. Again, classic progressive tactic to change the subject. Progressives are ruining our state/country.

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 24, 2021 07:47 AM
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Aww, you poor thing JoeG. So sorry your life sucks. However, I do agree with you . Your life is profoundly miserable because all those "progressives" forced you to make really bad life choices...

sacjon Sep 24, 2021 09:03 AM
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JOEG - it's not "changing the subject," it's responding directly to your claim that "progressives accuse others for exactly what you are guilty of." I gave an example of how that statement is also applicable to conservatives. By the way, I'm not "a progressive," but I do like progress, learning from history and not being selfish.

PitMix Sep 21, 2021 01:13 PM
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I guess maybe we should all build big 2nd units with windows looking into each other's living rooms, and then rent or sell to cash in on the crazy house prices. Parking is going to be fun, too.

I understand the need for more housing, but densifying single family neighborhoods is not the solution to me. It seems like well-built multi-story apartment buildings along with more neighborhood parks is a better solution.

Chip of SB Sep 21, 2021 01:38 PM
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Santa Barbara’s development policies have been catastrophic, resulting in the severe housing shortage we are facing now. The new state laws are not perfect, but they will result in the construction of a lot of desperately needed housing units. It’s a shame the city could not have done a better job managing the construction of housing over the last few decades. Instead, the city abused its power to regulate housing development. Now the city’s authority has been revoked. Make way for the lot splits, duplexes, and ADUs.

Ahchooo Sep 21, 2021 03:43 PM
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Chip, I’m sincerely interested to hear what your solutions would have been. Hardly anyone in any single-family residence neighborhood wants multiple units built next to them. There is a huge desire to keep open spaces open. That wasn’t just the city management, that was the people saying what they wanted. But many parking lots have been built on, some buildings like the old Von’s on Chapala changed to be housing, et cetera. Everywhere I look, I see housing where it didn’t used to be. What was your solution?

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 21, 2021 03:55 PM
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There are plenty of homes on 1/2acre+ lots through out the city and the county. Some people want to be in a crowded neighborhood for the lifestyle, others for the energy. But if you want peace and privacy you will need to seek out peace and privacy. Those small Westside houses are insanely overpriced right now. Maybe its time for you to sell your humble abode and find your Eden to avoid the very thing you hate?

Byzantium Sep 22, 2021 09:19 AM
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Pitmix, you already got rid of the right-wingers 20 years ago in this state - term limits and the takeover by the big public sector unions (SEIU and the teachers unions). This mess in California belongs 100% to the Democrat super-majority and the voters who they buy off every election, with more unsustainable promises they claim someone else will be funding.

letmego Sep 22, 2021 10:44 AM
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We probably need both dense condos and apartments and ADUs. I originally thought that AUD was great and ADUs were horrible. Then reality hit - the AUDs built nothing but high end apartments which helped nobody. Which, I guess is what you get when big developers build something. The ADUs - they don't THRILL me, but there are a bunch that have gone in to my westside neighborhood of small homes. So far, it's not too bad. Yes, parking kind of sucks more and more every month, but some of that is due to single homes with 4 or 5 cars already (before the ADU). I've found that the ADUs where the owner is living on the property aren't so bad.

Voice of Reason Sep 22, 2021 10:51 AM
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With the current cost of building in Santa Barbara who is going to building low-rent apartments and loose money? The higher-end apartments are the only ones that will pencil out and a result, get built by the private sector. You are also mistaken in that high end units don't help anybody, every additional unit helps, the person moving into that high-end apartment will now not be moving into an alternative apartment making it available for someone else.

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 21, 2021 03:48 PM
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We dont need any more people. We dont need any more homes. The only natural barrier to over population in today's world is to limit building. Which puts market pressure on the value and if there is demand - of which there is plenty, prices will naturally balance. Money is the only real equalizer in the housing market. Its colorblind and allows anyone with it to purchase what they can, where they choose. Its not the Government or your neighbors duty to support you in your life. What makes this place special, is its character and its natural population cap. Our roads, our neighborhoods, our highways, our infrastructure is not equipped for more residents. Keep it expensive. Make it special. Make it hard. Nothing good in life comes easy.

Byzantium Sep 21, 2021 05:48 PM
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We don't need to keep growing the major sources of employment in this town: bloated government employment and bloated health industry employment.

SBTownie Sep 21, 2021 04:14 PM
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Anyone know what are the pathways for voter rejection of SB9? Can we petition for a proposition in the next election cycle to repeal the new law?

Chip of SB Sep 21, 2021 05:39 PM
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Voters can absolutely pass a ballot initiative to counteract SB9, and if done correctly the legislature couldn’t implement any similar law again. We could call it the “making housing unobtainable for the working class forever” act.

Byzantium Sep 21, 2021 05:47 PM
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Courts are constantly over-turning ballot initiatives we want; yet cramming down legislation we don't want. We now have dysfunctional disconnect passing for our "government".

SBTownie Sep 21, 2021 09:54 PM
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Chip, splitting random SFH lots into two sets of duplexes isn't going to make SB, or California, any more affordable. There are about 50 other interventions we could take to make housing more affordable, but they're far more "radical" than the capitalist SB9 and thus we won't enact them. Ironically the "progressives" (who are really just neoliberal shills) will promote policies like SB9 that barely make a dent in rents, if at all, while lining the pockets of the literal capitalists who own the properties being redeveloped. Best estimates from progressive analysis indicate that a 1% increase in housing supply decreases rents by 0.4-0.7% which means in order to reduce housing costs by 50%, we'd need to increase our housing supply here by 80+%. SB9 will have no positive effect on bringing housing costs down. You'll see. Meanwhile, many people who worked hard and love their homes and quiet, peaceful neighborhoods will see their rights as locals to self-determine anything stripped and their areas forever degraded. One can support the building of new housing, including high density housing and mixed-use zoning and buildings, without forcing high density down the throats of existing SFH dwellers. I'd rather see us put tax payer dollars toward supplying workforce housing and running local housing authorities for this purpose than spend $100,000 a person a year renting motels for the homeless and bulldozing single family homes to build fourplexes that will not in any way benefit the working class.

a-1632322313 Sep 22, 2021 07:51 AM
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SB 9 and 10 and others were not designed tomake houses “affordable”, the word is never mentioned. Instead, it's a model based on the Bay Area imposed state-wide. They were supported by builders and the League of Women Voters and all who want more housing without consideration for neighborhoods or more than lip service for historic districts and historic cities, especially coastal cities, generally.

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 22, 2021 10:47 AM
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Joe, I know it might be a stretch for you but one cannot be a Progressive and a Sheep... Sheep are ones who follow their leaders blindly regardless of what the leaders do or say. Progressives are more like Goats. More intelligent and independent but exceptionally needy. Today's Right blindly follows their leaders (talk show host, reality TV stars, narcissists, Warmongers) to slaughter as their policies and their politics have nothing to do with or for the people. The GOP politicians routinely say one thing while doing the exact opposite, knowing fair well that their voters are not smart enough to pay mind to such things as actual policy... They know that their base thrives on ideology, that they can only handle simple ideas and concepts. And unless you earn more than $1m a year, you're not even a GOP constituent in their mind. You're their sheep, in their flock, being led and fed so that they lead you to slaughter.

Voice of Reason Sep 22, 2021 11:12 AM
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You couldn't be more wrong SBO. Maybe if you're comparing the DNC/GOP of a decade + ago, but dead wrong with where the parties are at today, nearly the exact opposite of how you stated.

sacjon Sep 22, 2021 11:28 AM
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Who was whipped into a frenzy over a verifiable lie about the election? Who was told to mistrust the medical experts and scientists about COVID from the get go? You really think all these "free thinkers" who swallowed every one of Trump's lies, despite every expert (legal, medical, etc) proving him wrong over and over again, are somehow not "sheep?"

Voice of Reason Sep 22, 2021 11:49 AM
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Everything SBO said fits the current progressive movement to a T. I could go on and on and on but there isn't enough space here and my comment would get deleted so I'll keep it short and in language you can understand: Baaaahhh

sacjon Sep 22, 2021 11:58 AM
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"I could go on and on and on but" I got nothing. Yeah, figured as much. Come in, say everyone is wrong but fail (or the latest MO, just don't even try) to prove your point.

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 22, 2021 12:01 PM
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We have a self awarewolf in our ranks! Let's start with: The Christian religious leaders that are in control of the GOP and its current lunacy, literally call their followers their flock... Not too mention the fact that in order to be a PROGRESSive you literally (as in the actual literal meaning) have to be for PROGRESS. The exact opposite of the Conservative Sheeple who follow their leaders backwards with blinders on to conserve their archaic way of thinking...

Voice of Reason Sep 22, 2021 12:26 PM
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You guys don't know how wrong you are, how many hoaxes or lies you've followed, believed, and repeated here over the past 5 years (i.e. Russia collusion). How you excuse away bad actions on "your" side while condemning the very same actions from the "other" (i.e. peaceful protest vs. insurrection!) or feigning faux outrage over something only to then completely ignore the issue when "your" politician is in charge, even when it's worse (i.e. border crises/kids in cages, AOC has been rather quite on that front....). Ignoring the hypocrisy of your preferred leaders violating the very same laws and mandates us commoners are supposed to follow. Again, not enough space here and Edhat will probably delete this anyway. Again, you have your heads so far in the sand you'll never be able to see clearly again.

SantaBarbaraObserver Sep 22, 2021 12:39 PM
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You guys? Who is this you guys you write? Anyway. This post was predictably filled with avoidance and more tired and poorly thought out projections from one of our resident Selfawarewolves... Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

sacjon Sep 22, 2021 01:09 PM
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If you don't know/see the difference between protesting racism and attacking the US Capitol building because you still believe in a debunked and proven LIE, then there's no hope for you. Stop whining about being deleted, it's getting pathetic.

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