Check the Welfare of Baby Inside a Vehicle

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First responders on the scene of a baby alone inside a vehicle (Photo: Scanner Andrew)
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By Roger the Scanner Guy

Baby alone in an SUV with the windows rolled up at Victoria and State Streets, the baby is crying.

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a-1624970453 Jun 29, 2021 05:40 AM
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Child death in a hot car is more common than most seem to think. From searching "statistics child left in car":

https://noheatstroke.org/original/index.html

http://www.kidsandcars.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/National-Stats-Chart-2020-1.png

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/motor-vehicle-safety-issues/hotcars/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/08/02/hot-car-deaths-why-they-keep-happening-and-how-stop-them/1861389001/

MarcelK Jun 28, 2021 02:16 PM
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https://www.safekids.org/press-release/new-study-14-parents-say-they-have-left-child-alone-inside-parked-vehicle-despite

Rather than virtue signaling how much better one is than a parent who does this, take steps to prevent it:

A: Avoid heatstroke-related injury and death by never leaving your child alone in a car, not even for a minute. And make sure to keep your car locked when you’re not in it so kids don’t get in on their own.

==> C: Create reminders by putting something on the backseat of your car next to your child such as a briefcase, a purse or a cell phone that is needed at your final destination. This is especially important if you’re not following your normal routine.

T: Take action. If you see a child alone in a car, call 911. Emergency personnel want you to call. They are trained to respond to these situations. One call could save a life.

Andrea Smith Jun 28, 2021 01:50 PM
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I grew up in the 70s/80s and you never heard of this. Even through the 90s/2000s, this is a new phenomenon and it's sickening to think people need to be "reminded" their child is in the back seat. When you adopt an animal at the shelter they screen you and nowadays, pretty intensely. It's harder to adopt an animal than it is to have a baby. Maybe we need to rethink requiring a license to be a parent.

a-1624970972 Jun 29, 2021 05:49 AM
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Heatstroke is reportedly the second most common cause of child car-related non-traffic fatalities. 1,056 from pre-1989 to 2020, per this report:
http://www.kidsandcars.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/National-Stats-Chart-2020-1.png

Ahchooo Jun 28, 2021 10:05 PM
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Rather than dismiss the idea that any decent person would not forget a baby in the back seat, why not just teach/advise parents to do the shoe reminder technique?

MarcelK Jun 28, 2021 06:04 PM
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"this is a new phenomenon"

This is simply not true (or plausible). Prior to EdHat and other social media, how would you even know about such things? Back in those days, everything was filtered through the network news desk editors and there's a lot that didn't make it through.

"It's harder to adopt an animal than it is to have a baby."

And it's harder to give birth to an animal than to adopt a baby, as long as we're comparing apples to oranges.

"Maybe we need to rethink requiring a license to be a parent."

Maybe we need to rethink how to think. I advise basing it on fact, evidence, logic, and the like:

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/anyone-could-forget-kids-in-hot-car-forgotten-baby-syndrome/

Babycakes Jun 28, 2021 01:01 PM
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Possibly early or first indicator of dementia or Alheimer's....keep in mind, if you have ever experienced this first hand, you know it is a heartbreaking moment when you realize your loved one "has it."

FollowingScienc... Jun 28, 2021 12:41 PM
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Thanking the alert Good Sam for noticing the situation and calling 911; the PD, EMS, and ED personnel who saved the poor child. Great job by all!

Luvaduck Jun 28, 2021 10:48 AM
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No excuse, but perhaps the <reason> is that the parents are unaccustomed to the hot weather we're having, whether tourists or not. Thankful this resolved w/o damage to the child.

MarcelK Jun 28, 2021 02:21 PM
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@SACJON In fact that movement is about transferring funds to other agencies and activities that could include better education, more spotting, etc. that could reduce these incidents.

sacjon Jun 28, 2021 11:11 AM
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FONDOFSB - You don't understand what that means. How would the police have changed this in any way? Do you think cops patrol the streets looking for babies in cars?

Roger Jun 28, 2021 09:05 AM
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The Police Officer did the right things played it by the book I wonder if C.W.S. Will do the right things or just give the kid back.

FernaldPoint93108 Jun 27, 2021 08:53 PM
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There is no excuse leaving a baby alone in a hot cat or anywhere for that matter. That being said it is an easy mistake to make when you’ are a new parent and have a baby sleeping in the back. New parents are supposed to always put their left shoe in the back seat so they will be reminded that they are not alone

MarcelK Jun 29, 2021 06:49 PM
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@LETMEGO That's obviously a big ask around here (with exceptions ... you're at the top of my list of rational commenters.)

It's worth repeating my link, which supports your statements: https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/anyone-could-forget-kids-in-hot-car-forgotten-baby-syndrome/

letmego Jun 29, 2021 06:09 PM
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FONDOFSB, I'd recommend that you read up on this, like AHCHOOO suggested. There are people who really actually study this phenomenon, in order to figure out how to stop it. Literally, your brain goes into automatic mode. You don't "forget" your kid because as far as your brain is concerned, they aren't there.

Have you ever had an appointment and missed your exit because you were on autopilot on your way to work? I've done that a bunch. Same kind of thing. You have to be willing to read the studies and scientific explanations without bias, however.

SBSand Jun 28, 2021 11:03 AM
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I raised 3 kids and have taken care of many children... never heard this rule about leaving your shoe in the backseat. Honestly, just don't leave kids in the car. It amazes me that people are so dumb to think it is ok, ever.

FondofSB Jun 28, 2021 09:21 AM
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To AHCHOOO : When you are a CARING parent : you do NOT forget your children. They are FIRST and FOREMOST in your mind and concerns.

Ahchooo Jun 28, 2021 08:29 AM
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Apparently it can happen, even to good parents. Read up on it. Overtired parents who trade off dropping the child off at day care, a sleeping child… the driver forgets the kid is back there, drives directly to the office and parks. But the shoe in the back, or other such techniques, have reminded many a grateful parent.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jun 27, 2021 07:04 PM
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You need a license to scuba dive, operate a vehicle, own a business, and possess a firearm in many circumstances. Why is there no license to have and raise a child, which one could argue is more consequential than the aforementioned? Unreal. Some people have no business having children.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jun 28, 2021 02:37 PM
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Alex, hallelujah indeed. Cheers!

Pit, yeah, you surely cannot guarantee a license results in good parents, but at least you are signing an legal document acknowledging you know the rules when you obtain a license (in general). That way you can't feign ignorance and get out of whatever punishment your violation calls for. In this case it would be immediate removal of the child from the care of their parent, pending some kind of parenting class to make sure they know that you cannot leave children (or pets, elderly, etc.) in a hot car---no matter what.

Marcel, you are immune to sarcasm.

MarcelK Jun 28, 2021 02:05 PM
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Any intelligent person can see that such a license is not workable, at least not in this country (China used forced abortion), and is not a rational response to this event. How would the licensing agency have known ahead of time that this person would leave a child in a car years later? Lots of people "have no business" doing various things (like opining on this issue, or making statistical claims), but licensing is not the solution.

PitMix Jun 28, 2021 10:31 AM
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Because people would never agree on what the test should be like. Fundamentalist Baptists think the questions should be very different than Wiccan same sex couples. And passing a test doesn't necessarily mean we will be good parents. We all have driver's licenses, but how many of us are good drivers?

Roger Jun 27, 2021 05:08 PM
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The baby went to Cottage the Mother stayed behind with the police, now the Mother and the Officer are going to Cottage Hospital together.

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