CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

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Source: Santa Barbara County Public Health Department

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) met [Wednesday], June 23, to discuss the latest data on reports of mild cases of inflammation of the heart muscle and surrounding tissue following COVID-19 vaccination among younger people.  The ACIP provides advice and guidance to the Director of the CDC regarding use of vaccines for control of vaccine-preventable diseases within the United States population. Conclusion of yesterday’s meeting was that the vaccines are safe and effective, and prevent COVID-19 illness.

“As a health care professional and parent, I understand and support the interest that many have in the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines, especially among younger people,” said Van Do-Reynoso, Director, Santa Barbara County Public Health Department.  “I strongly encourage everyone age 12 and older who are eligible, to get vaccinated as the benefits far outweigh evidence of adverse effects.”

Dr. Henning Ansorg, Public Health Officer for Santa Barbara County stated, “This is an extremely rare side effect, and only an exceedingly small number of people could experience it after vaccination. Most cases are mild and have a full recovery with minimal treatment. The vaccines are safe and effective and prevent the spread of COVID-19, especially with the Delta variant increasing in its spread among young people. The risk of suffering COVID-related heart disease if unvaccinated is far greater than experiencing side effects from the vaccine.”

Getting vaccinated is the best way to protect yourself, your loved ones, your community and to allow Santa Barbara County to return to more normal lifestyles as quickly and safely as possible.

For more information on the vaccine and how to schedule an appointment, visit: publichealthsbc.org/vaccine/

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MarcelK Jun 26, 2021 10:02 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

"Take it up with CNN, it's their headline."

So CNN is at fault for not including the entire article in the headline? Even if we grant that or any other poor behavior on the part of CNN, it doesn't absolve the person who unscrupulously quoted their headline out of context as part of a fallacious argument, knowing full well that the rest of article undermines that argument.

a-1624764933 Jun 26, 2021 08:35 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

And, fortunately, they rely on data, which they know how to analyze. You won't see them concluding (and shouting hysterically) from a sample of 42 people that "TWENTY NINE PERCENT OF FULLY VACCINATED PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM THE DELTA VARIANT!" in a country with millions of fully vaccinated citizens. Common sense will prevail, and you will once again be shown to be grievously wrong.

a-1624763810 Jun 26, 2021 08:16 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

Today the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) released a statement on ACIP's findings, saying myocarditis and pericarditis are much more common if a person contracts COVID-19 than from vaccination.

"Especially with the troubling Delta variant increasingly circulating, and more readily impacting younger people, the risks of being unvaccinated are far greater than any rare side effects from the vaccines," the HHS said. "Even if your infection is mild, you or your child could face long-term symptoms following COVID-19 infection such as neurological problems or diminished lung function."

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/06/experts-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-likely-tied-heart-inflammation

a-1624763165 Jun 26, 2021 08:06 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

"The facts are clear: this is an extremely rare side effect, and only an exceedingly small number of people will experience it after vaccination," officials said in a statement. "Importantly, for the young people who do, most cases are mild, and individuals recover often on their own or with minimal treatment. In addition, we know that myocarditis and pericarditis are much more common if you get COVID-19, and the risks to the heart from COVID-19 infection can be more severe."

Health experts agree that the benefits of being protected from COVID-19 outweigh the risks of developing this temporary heart condition from a vaccine. "There's no zero risk proposition," says Dr. Brian Feingold, medical director of the heart transplant program at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. "If you're statistically going after what's safest, the data right now stacks up [to show] that vaccines are absolutely the safer route."

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/23/1009522605/heart-inflammation-in-teens-and-young-adults-after-covid-19-vaccine-is-rare-cdc-

a-1624757014 Jun 26, 2021 06:23 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

"ACIP members agreed there is a likely association between the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines and rare cases of heart inflammation in adolescents and young adults. Almost all the cases resolved with little treatment and patients recovered quickly. The advisers said that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks."

Sun Jun 26, 2021 10:58 AM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

WHO says fully vaccinated people should continue to wear masks because of Delta variant spread
"People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves," said Dr. Mariangela Simao, the assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products at the WHO,

"Vaccine alone won't stop community transmission," she added. "People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene ... the physical distance, avoid crowding. This still continues to be extremely important, even if you're vaccinated when you have a community transmission ongoing."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/says-fully-vaccinated-people-continue-141614861.html

****Now we need CDC and Local Public Health to follow with mask requirement.

Sun Jun 26, 2021 11:41 AM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

All the more reason to require masks indoors ..we don't want to return to 2020

Dangerous Delta COVID-19 Variant Infecting Vaccinated Adults In Israel
Half of the adults infected had been fully vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine
Spurred by the new information, the Israeli government has now reimposed an indoor mask mandate and quickly expanded its vaccination program to include children ages 12 to 15.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/dangerous-delta-covid-19-variant-011913549.html

Sun Jun 26, 2021 09:10 AM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

@ChemicalSuperFreak All the more reason to continue wearing masks indoors. The CDC should reconsider their position on recent easing of masks indoors where the virus is most likely to spread. Remember what happened when they delayed mask use in 2020... The virus is mutating fast, one might say faster then it would naturally in nature.

MarcelK Jun 26, 2021 10:33 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

The inversion is linguistic, not algebraic. We could formalize "'29% of X are Y' is not equivalent to '29% of Y are X'" using Bayes Theorem, but I wasn't using the word "inverted" formally, or as a synonym for "inverse function". What is required here is not genius, but rather simple honesty.

MarcelK Jun 26, 2021 09:37 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

https://elkodaily.com/news/local/speaking-of-science-a-matter-of-scale/article_2fb2dc07-451a-5511-8d23-23b369502913.html

"Things we smell: 10 to 100 Å on average"

"Viruses: 1,000 Å average"

"Viruses such as the influenza virus (the cause of the common flu) and SARS-CoV-2 are roughly spherical and approximately 1,200 Å in diameter."

"N95 mask pores: 1,000-3,000 Å"

"Droplets (from coughs and sneezes): 500,000 to 1,000,000 Å

Perhaps one of the biggest misconceptions about viral spread is that for a mask to be effective, it must filter out all particles that are the size of a single virus. If this was the case, N95 masks would barely be sufficient to stop viral transmission, and cloth and surgical masks would be an absolute joke. Fortunately for everyone living through this pandemic, this is not the case. Viruses are very rarely spread as individual viruses floating through the air (called aerosols). Most of them, including SARS-CoV-2, are spread primarily as droplets: small specks of moisture and water that you expel when you breathe, talk, sneeze, or cough. In fact, the majority of these droplets are large enough that even a tissue or handkerchief is able to stop them, as anyone who has ever been sick with the cold knows (and in fact, the virus responsible for the cold is 3x smaller than the SARS-CoV-2 virus!). In addition, individual viral particles are likely still slowed down by masks, similar to the way traffic slows down when lanes merge on the freeway. This is in line with multiple studies that have found surgical and cloth masks greatly reduce how far someone sick expels the virus into their surroundings through the nose and mouth."

a-1624736506 Jun 26, 2021 12:41 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

11:39 - That's a hilariously wrong conclusion. 29% of the people who died from the delta variant were fully vaccinated. There are millions of fully vaccinated inhabitants of the UK. Just another example of your lack of understanding of mathematics, logic, and epidemiology. Either that, or you're just trying to scare people away from life-saving vaccination.

Sun Jun 26, 2021 09:07 AM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

All the more reason to continue wearing masks indoors. The CDC should reconsider their position on recent easing of masks indoors where the virus is most likely to spread. Remember what happened when they delayed mask use in 2020... The virus is mutating fast, one might say faster then it would naturally in nature.

Hado_Ken_57 Jun 26, 2021 07:52 AM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

I think you misrepresented that statistic... if 29 percent of fully vaccinated people died from the delta variant, we'd be seeing vaccinated deaths in the hundreds of thousands. I think you mean 29 percent of people who died from the delta variant were vaccinated. Still a scary statistic.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jun 25, 2021 11:39 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

Here's an actual fact, in the UK where the Delta variant represents over 95% of the COVID cases, 42 people have died of Delta variant and 12 of them were greater than 14 days post dose 2 of the vaccine. 12/41*100 is 29%. TWENTY NINE PERCENT OF FULLY VACCINATED PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM THE DELTA VARIANT! See Table 6 in Technical Briefing 15 from Public Health England (June 11, 2021).

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads
/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993879/Variants_o
f_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_15.pdf

Voice of Reason Jun 26, 2021 10:09 AM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

WHOA “Journalists, that work for places like Reuters, Factcheck, NYT, and WaPo, have a code of ethics that has been enforced…”. Where have you been living the past decade, so much BS has been put out as “fact” from unverified confidential sources that later are revealed to be completely false but the retractions are tucked away months later. Journalism is dead.

a-1624679470 Jun 25, 2021 08:51 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

Facts are anathema to anti-vaxxers:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/british-airways-pilots-died-covid-vax/

"In June 2021, unscrupulous conspiracy theorists seized upon a series of tragic deaths among British Airways pilots, cynically and falsely claiming that all four died as a direct consequence of having received a COVID-19 vaccination. "

a-1624677763 Jun 25, 2021 08:22 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

Riight. But you think Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Hannity are credible. Journalists, that work for places like Reuters, Factcheck, NYT, and WaPo, have a code of ethics that is enforced, as opposed to the disinfotainment sources that are so often parroted here, like the totally bogus pilot claim.

a-1624673713 Jun 25, 2021 07:15 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

I see you have trouble realizing that the journalist is not giving the advice. He is reporting what people who really know what they're doing advise. But, that's typical of your paltering, and the egotarian crowd who think that facts are somehow biased.

a-1624665313 Jun 25, 2021 04:55 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

Public health recommendations for how to stop the spread of highly communicable diseases are going to put a fair amount of weight on “the public.” It is right to try to assess how a vaccine may affect your individual child. But the mRNA vaccines are not brand new, just tweaked for this particular virus.

bosco Jun 25, 2021 01:19 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

First off, there are long term studies for mRNA vaccines (these have been studied for at least 8 years).
The ingredients in each of the vaccines are fairly common and also include years of understanding and research. The only truly novel ingredients is the mRNA and the lipid proteins which are inactive ingredients. All of which are deemed safe. Anyone that understands anything about biology will understand that the mRNA vaccines work under the same principle as a standard vaccine for which we have decades of research. We now have millions of vaccines given out demonstrating clearly demonstrating short term safety and efficacy. We have decades of research in vaccination in general showing long term safety in the vaccination methodology. Anyone doubting the vaccine needs to speak with their doctor and no one else.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jun 25, 2021 05:06 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

“First off, there are long term studies for mRNA vaccines (these have been studied for at least 8 years).”

You do realize that the idea for mRNA-based vaccines began much earlier than 8 years---try 30. During those decades they realized that there all kinds of serious side-effects and that’s why this technology was never employed, until now.

“The ingredients in each of the vaccines are fairly common and also include years of understanding and research.”

In fact, these vaccines do not use “common” ingredients. Many of the mRNA nucleobases have been modified in an effort to disguise them from our bodies, preventing a harmful immune response. Yes, that’s right, you’re not supposed to have mRNA outside of the nucleus and cytoplasm of cells, as that’s a bad sign and your immune system will respond. Therefore synthetic chemists have changed a few atoms on the nucleobases, which makes them uncommon. They’re so unique they have their own CAS registry numbers.

“The only truly novel ingredients is the mRNA and the lipid proteins which are inactive ingredients.”

Wait, didn’t you just suggest that they were “common”, which is the antonym of the word “novel”?

“All of which are deemed safe. Anyone that understands anything about biology will understand that the mRNA vaccines work under the same principle as a standard vaccine for which we have decades of research.”

Not quite. Early vaccines were just boiled pathogens that were injected. The risk in that was that boiling may not completely destroy the pathogens genetic material. For instance, heat may denature double-stranded DNA, causing the single strands to separate. Upon cooling the strands readily anneal to form the original and intact double-stranded DNA. This phenomenon is exploited in melting temperature studies and PCR. The discovery of molecular biological techniques allowed scientists to use deliver specific sequences of the pathogen’s DNA/RNA/cDNA to an intermediate organism (e.g. banana plant) and this organism will make the proteins required to illicit an immune response. The proteins are harvested from this organism (banana leaves) and then purified for use in vaccines. My Hepatitis B vaccine was derived from banana leaves. mRNA vaccines cut out the middle-man and you get the genetic material directly, allowing your body’s own ribosomes to produce the pathogenic protein. This comes with a risk, as we are discovering. I prefer a plant to make the protein, but then this comes with the cost time for creating a recombinant organism, growing enough to harvest the protein, and then purifying that protein. It’s safer, but not as fast as the mRNA vaccines.

bosco Jun 25, 2021 04:50 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

Each year the influenza vaccine is modified and does not go through new trials. So saying that each vaccine goes through years and years of trials is not entirely accurate. Obviously the EUA is necessary considering we're in a Pandemic and can't wait 5 -10 years to prove what most experts already know. Of course the FDA would prefer to have long term studies. But, these vaccines are not created in a vacuum. There is enough scientific data available for the FDA and other experts to feel confident enough to approve the EUA.

Chip of SB Jun 25, 2021 01:44 PM
CDC Advisory Committee Determines COVID-19 Vaccine Safe for Younger People

So why has the fda required every vaccine go through years and years of trials for all this time? And why can’t all the other vaccines being evaluated just get an EUA and start being used immediately? What is the reasoning behind the fda’s extremely cautious approach if the science says vaccines are safe and fully understood? Are they concerned about the consequences if they missed something?

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