Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

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Casitas Pass Road in Carpinteria

By edhat staff

A group of Carpinteria residents is pursuing legal action against neighboring marijuana farms over its smell.

A class-action lawsuit was filed on Thursday by a Santa Barbara attorney on behalf of Carpinteria residents against multiple growers in the area. The lawsuit is asking the growers to seal their greenhouses using "carbon-based filtration methods."

Residents involved in the lawsuit state the currently used vapor-phase filtration is more harmful to allergy and asthma conditions and is irritating to eyes. The suit also alleges the current system can cause respiratory problems and headaches due to the emitted chemicals that are used.

One plaintiff, Greg Gandrud, stated his bedroom window is 70 feet from a grow house and feels his home hasn't sold in two years due to the smell. 

The Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors is also mentioned for not doing enough to rectify the situation and imposing lenient policies for marijuana growers. Supervisors Das Williams and Steve Lavagnino have come under fire for receiving campaign contributions from local growers.

In January, a cannabis grower whose farm was considered a "model marijuana grow" by County Supervisors was arrested for illegal possession and black market sales.

The lawsuit states the plaintiffs are not looking for money and would likely dismiss the case if the growers change their filtration system and odors decrease.

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a-1583267201 Mar 03, 2020 12:26 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

Drove through Monday night at 9pm (3/3) with some visitors from Wisconsin. As soon as we hit Padro Lane the car was slammed with the pungent scent of Marijuana. They all recognized it immediately and spoke up. And sorry, no, this is not a dead skunk on the highway that's carcass miraculously appears every night when the air is cold and holding close to the surface. It is the "new normal" for growers who are in the not so unique position of pawning off an environmental cost to an already existing public. No doubt other industries are much worse such as oil and plastics but nevertheless it's all the same.

a-1583278490 Mar 03, 2020 03:34 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

Voters passed a state pot ordinance that included the ability to totally ban it within their communities, so that option always remains on the table. Banning this failed experiment, would put us back among the majority of other communities in this state who did chose to totally ban it. They were smart. They can learn from our very poor example. Hope Das Williams loses and this sends shock waves through the local pot industry. They will soon be on very borrowed time. They are on a very short leash to become far better neighbors than we have seen so far.

a-1583298907 Mar 03, 2020 09:15 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

@1:14 This is not what we voted for. We voted to decriminalize marijuana. We voted so we could legally buy cool cannabis products at retail stores. We voted for a law that gave cities and counties explicit control to develop ordinances which fit the needs of the community. We voted for tax dollars we were promised this industry would bring. We did not vote for unlimited grows. We did not vote for Temporary permits to be handed out without oversight. We did not vote for acres of plastic hoops, lit up greenhouses, constant generator noise, 8 ft fences, security lighting, security guards, horrible odors, ugly temporary storage containers, major traffic increases, unpermitted grading or exploding butane labs. We did not vote for activities that ruin the rural landscape, use major amounts of electricity and water, stink up neighborhoods, devalue adjacent property or impact the quality of life for those subjected to all of this. We didn’t vote for Dennis Bozanich or his VanWingderden assistant. We didn’t vote for the cannabis lobby to take over creation of this ordinance. This debacle is not what Santa Barbara residents voted for.

a-1583275910 Mar 03, 2020 02:51 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

How do you get enough charcoal to create the odor filters - how many trees lost to everyone, just so dope industry can have a free run here? Time for political change. Why worry about rising sea levels in some vague future time, when in fact the pot industry is destroying us right here and right now. Is this climate hysteria in fact just displacement? Allows one to ignore the real threats they are currently inflicting, while pretending they are doing something noble elsewhere, that in fact does not even matter. Very strange and disjointed times. But we have had similar times in the past - they come and they go. Mob hysteria is a curious thing, and ironically can often devour what set it in motion in the first place. The Ancient Greeks understood this. Do they even teach the Greek myths any longer. So much shared wisdom for all ages found with in them. The eternal lure of Dionysus but that was only for wine and theater in ancient times - not pot and self-delusion. But the lure of Dionysus, who artificially allows departure from reality, remains the common denominator even today.

DBD Mar 03, 2020 03:17 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

You could plant any number of crops in those greenhouses that would have an equal or worse impact on the surrounding area (hemp, broccoli, onions, garlic, etc). Cannabis has had a 100year headwind and is obviously going to be met with any and all excuse as to why it is a terrible plant to grow and has negative impacts that are somehow exclusive to it.

a-1583278048 Mar 03, 2020 03:27 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

Just think, all those other crops you could grow in the green houses are actually nutritious or make beneficial use manufactured products. Pot just gets you high, so it is way down on my own list when you try to compare their relative values. Don't even bother trying to peddle pot as "medicine". It isn't and it ain't.

a-1583278200 Mar 03, 2020 03:30 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

Pot odors alone are destroying what used to be. Displacing food crops is not to be celebrated either. Adding more intoxicants to already troubled lives committed to looking for artificial escapes is not anything I want to see more of either. But that is an opinion; the other arguments are facts.

ZeroHawk Mar 03, 2020 12:51 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

and that smell has been there for close to a decade....maybe it's time to get over it? Would you whine and complain about the smell of Onions and garlic growing or even worse...the stench of broccoli? What about the local indigenous plants that stink. We have many. This is a lot of uproar and hype from people that are just opposed to one thing or another. It's a smell from a plant. Pretty straight forward. Don't like it? Move. Carp growers have been growing and spraying product with cancerous pesticides for decades and you people wank and cry fowl and start making up lies about the smell making yo sick and irritating your eyes and lungs. The only people that are dumb enough to believe this statement are the science deniers. Why do I say this? Because it simply does not cause throat or eye irritation. If it's an allergy issue, then you're double screwed as we have similar plants in our hills and forests that are in the same family as marijuana and it grows around here. I find it all of the time while hiking and it stinks just as bad. Maybe the 3 people that are trying to sue, don't hike, rarely leave their property and are against 3 businesses that are following all of the obnoxious restrictions and jumping up when told to do so. This is good business and it's helping out economy a great deal. If you don't like it, move out of the area. This isn't going to change, and your lawsuits are baseless and I'll be very surprised if they aren't thrown out of court.

ZeroHawk Mar 03, 2020 12:54 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

666 you are comparing the oil and gas industries to the cannabis industry??? that is just....lol wow...not even apples and oranges, more like apples and a rock. No comparison at all, by scent, effect, cost, environmentally friendly. Funny, none of yall whined this much when the avos were being sprayed with cancerous chemicals on a regular basis...

haskelslocal Mar 03, 2020 03:16 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

Are apples and oranges both fruits? The comparison is that there is an environmental affect. All environments not just the green one. Oil, mind you, is naturally found in the natural environment and is converted into useful inputs to the society you live in and are typing your assertions on. Hence the production of plastics and silicone that are forming your conclusions. The point is reason and the ability to ascertain how much and when policy should be drafted to create regulations that either help or hinder business enterprise in concert with public acceptance. For too long industries of all kinds have evaded and distributed out environmental costs upon the public. Grow marijuana. Just don't pretend that either scrubbers work or that it doesn't stink. Drill for oil but don't pretend derricks don't leak or you don't drive a car. Grow broccoli but don't pretend pesticides don't drift or you don't have goiter from cruciferous vegetables.

jqb Mar 03, 2020 02:40 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

It's obvious ... Greg Gangrud is mentioned here as "one plaintiff", with no mention of his long involvement in politics ... his involvement here is not just as some random neighbor. Some people--like you!--have repeatedly said that politicians can't be trusted. Also, you have repeatedly brought up politics when it actually was not relevant. I won't respond further.

jqb Mar 03, 2020 03:46 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

BTW, the whole idea of "bringing politics into it" is absurd, when politics is explicitly mentioned in the article: "The Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors is also mentioned for not doing enough to rectify the situation and imposing lenient policies for marijuana growers. Supervisors Das Williams and Steve Lavagnino have come under fire for receiving campaign contributions from local growers." The really funny thing is that these folks are up in arms and accusing me of making personal slurs for merely mentioning that Gangrud is a Republican politician ... like that's a *bad* thing.

a-1583281119 Mar 03, 2020 04:18 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

JQB: Williams and Lavagnino are elected officials who made pot policies for this country. Gandrud is a private citizen in this legal action. Big difference when you throw around the term 'politician". Bringing the names of elected officials is not introducing "politics" into the discussion.

PitMix Mar 03, 2020 01:01 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

I think some of those points about the ag industry spraying pesticides are valid, but the reality is that we are surrounded by toxic substances in our modern life that we can't do anything about. So we accept them. Noxious skunk-like odors are a constant reminder of this, and the majority will not accept the current situation. If the pot growers can't figure out how to remedy this, they will be out of business as soon as we find some politicians that don't fund their campaigns from grower donations.

PitMix Mar 04, 2020 10:24 AM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

Bird, she got really close, that should teach Das something unless he is an old dog that can't learn new tricks. When is the last time an incumbent almost lost their seat to a challenger? I can only remember Joni Gray and she only lost because she wasn't conservative enough for the Santa Maria republicans.

PitMix Mar 04, 2020 10:27 AM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

Pstarsr, natural is not the same as non-toxic. "There are highly successful products based on natural compounds in the major pesticide classes. These include the herbicide glufosinate (synthetic phosphinothricin), the spinosad insecticides, and the strobilurin fungicides." Also "Pyrethrins are pesticides found naturally in some chrysanthemum flowers. They are a mixture of six chemicals that are toxic to insects."

DBD Mar 03, 2020 02:43 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

The smell issue and claims that it was causing allergies were subject to much discussion at the planning commission and board of supervisors. One of the amendments to the cannabis ordinance was that agricultural properties in the coastal zone(i.e. carp foothills) would be required to use some form of odor control(byers being the most popular). Since the green house infrastructure was already there, the byers was the most effective. Many of these greenhouses have been around for decades and are not sealed well enough for carbon filters to work. Now insert the claims that the odor control systems are causing even more health issues.... Not sure why, but this article mentions a raid that is completely unrelated to this lawsuit as far as i can tell, but then fails to mention that Air Pollution Control District determined determined none of the ingredients in the Byers odor control is a toxic air contaminant as classified by the state. ALso, the odor control requirement only applies to growers who have made it through the land use process and business licensing phase(which have proven to take well over a year to meet the strict rules and regs). It is still possible to have a grow that is legal-non conforming that does not have odor control. They will however be forced to have Oder control if and when they make it through the permitting process(speaking about carp area specifically).

pstarSR Mar 03, 2020 03:45 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

im sorry this has become so much of a disturbance for( some ) people. let me take the same high road everyone else takes when someone complains about housing costs, our community and the economic state. "JUST MOVE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT".......... let see who gets ruffled feathers this time.

sacjon Mar 03, 2020 04:49 PM
Carpinteria Residents Sue Neighboring Marijuana Growers Over Smell

If you haven't worked hard, made prudent personal financial decisions, saved enough of your hard-earned dollars, forgone unnecessary luxuries, you know, really "stuck to your guns" enough to be able to afford an air filter (or car air fresheners for drivers), then you chose the wrong place to live. Hey, not everyone and anyone can live stink-free in such a beautiful town! ;) wink wink.....

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