Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

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By Max Rosenberg

The Bobcat Fire looking south on Wednesday night.

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vvorker Sep 10, 2020 07:35 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

Fuel well spent, almost Mad Max these days. Just had 2 Medivacs arrive at Cottage Hospital in the last 30 mins, so active night already!
What's the number for 911?
I have used that Joke on desperate people to see if they are able to solve a simple question....imagine when we call that number and no answer? Yikes!!

sandy1 Sep 11, 2020 08:03 AM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

At this point it might be better to protect property and lives and let the state burn in the outlying areas and remote wilderness were there are no people or property.

Thomas John Sep 11, 2020 09:38 AM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

That's pretty much what they're doing. They don't have enough resources to even bother with fires that are not or are not predicted to run into people/property.

LCP112233 Sep 11, 2020 10:33 AM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

Sandy, remember back in the 80's, I think, that Yellowstone was burning. That is exactly what they chose to do in order to maintain a healthy forest. Fires fertilize the soil and plants are rejuvenated, dead brush is cleared. Displaced animals will come back just fine. Here is an excellent article about that very thing.
https://theconversation.com/many-native-animals-and-birds-thrive-in-burned-forests-research-shows-94808

Sail380 Sep 12, 2020 09:52 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

Its hard to convince people that fire is part of the cycle. Overgrown forest, choked with dead wood displace more animals in the long run. CA vegetation evolved over many thousands of years before we were here to stop fires.

John Wiley Sep 11, 2020 11:38 AM
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Maybe we're far enough into a New Normal that "let it burn" has a different outcome? Flying the West a lot in recent years we saw vast swaths of dead trees due to the warmer and dryer climate. I've read that when that stuff burns, especially during drought, the fires are so hot that prior recovery patterns are altered because seeds are killed by the intense heat. The fires move so fast more wildlife is killed. If our terrain turns more heavily to grassland, fires will be more frequent, numerous, and fast moving so buildings will need to be fire upgraded. Here's a summary and links: "...Which kind of plant community recolonizes the burned forests depends on a region’s climate in the months and years after the fire, since higher temperatures and decreased precipitation can compromise a forest’s chances of full recovery. In short: Climate change will play a major role in whether the trees we have long associated with a given forest will return to that landscape after a wildfire. That was the conclusion of a study..." http://files.cfc.umt.edu/phiguera/publications/Stevens-Rumann_et_al_2018_Ecology_Letters.pdf "...Results highlight significant decreases in tree regeneration in the 21st century. Annual moisture deficits were significantly greater from 2000 to 2015 as compared to 1985–1999, suggesting increasingly unfavourable post-fire growing conditions, corresponding to significantly lower seedling densities and increased regeneration failure. Dry forests that already occur at the edge of their climatic tolerance are most prone to conversion to non-forests after wildfires. ..."

John Wiley Sep 11, 2020 09:52 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

Confession: drier. My use of "dryer" had been niggling so I looked it up and yes, dryer is something for removing moisture. Drier is the term for relative moisture. Guess even our tireless proof reading volunteers are overwhelmed right now or they'd have noted the error and kindly offered clarification. I need more sleep. :/

John Wiley Sep 11, 2020 12:14 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

Multiple satellite fire detections on the South flank of the Bobcat Fire around the Monrovia Canyon Park in the city limits, half a mile from the edge of housing developments. Fire detections in the San Rafael Hills just above Eagle Rock 6 miles ESE of Burbank Airport too. Scary times.

John Wiley Sep 11, 2020 12:46 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

Portland, OR evacuating! Just saw this headline: nytimes.com/2020/09/11/us/wildfires-live-updates.html Bad as smoke is in CA, OR's been having it worse over the entire state. The EPA monitors in Lane County (Eugene) have been reading up to 487 today. The website offers this context: "Values above 500 are considered Beyond the AQI." I guess that means if smoke gets worse there, it's not air anymore?

a-1599876262 Sep 11, 2020 07:04 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

John! Why would you write such a thing?! I just scanned the update article (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/us/wildfires-live-updates.html) Where do you see news of "portland evacuating"?!?! We got enough fear mongering as it is!

John Wiley Sep 11, 2020 09:37 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

I agree. Had been outside working on a project and scanned the news while grabbing a quick bite. 500,000 under evac order freaked me out, having already seen the smoke & fire websites I've been checking. We have loved ones in NorCA, WA & OR and I sort of went off the rails not having been able to reach my sister. Have now, and she's sheltered in place. I hope it didn't freak anyone else out, and that we can all remain calm doing whatever we can.

a-1599911784 Sep 12, 2020 04:56 AM
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Believe me, I understand. My sibling is safe and sound east of Portland, where AQI was over 300 this afternoon. I always appreciate your posts! Best wishes to your sister and friends, and to all affected. It's a horror s$*t show.

a-1599912071 Sep 12, 2020 05:01 AM
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Kennewick WA had an AQI reading of 825, Walla Walla 757. ----------------------------------------
https://aqicn.org/city/usa/oregon/portland/ ----------------------------------------------------------- https://www.iqair.com/usa

a-1599876825 Sep 11, 2020 07:13 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

I *think* it's the Riverside fire, Clackamas County, you're thinking of. Evac area is south of Portland.
https://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/2020/09/clackamas-county-wildfire-grows-to-130000-acres-moves-within-half-mile-of-estacada-weather-improves.html ////////////////////////////////////////////
Yesterday's evac map (not sure if it's updated in this view): https://ccgis-mapservice.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=fe0525732f1a4f679b75a5ccf1c84b30 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
More OR fire info: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/weather/oregon-wildfires-details-maps-evacuation-information-for-state-e2-80-99s-biggest-blazes/ar-BB18Wy7k

a-1599877509 Sep 11, 2020 07:25 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

A report/opinion from Hillsboro OR, east of Portland. "Progress of the Riverside fire toward Portland's east side has slowed to a crawl, although the locals don't know how to recognize this. ;-) But the west drift has produced seriously bad air quality. The AQI here is about 260. We are literally in a cloud of smoke, and it's indoors now too, because you can't keep it out forever.

a-1599877673 Sep 11, 2020 07:27 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=45.06819,-122.2023&z=10&b=ter&a=modis_mp

John Wiley Sep 11, 2020 09:46 PM
Bobcat Fire Near Burbank

Smoke & fire info on the NOAA HRRR site gives a sense of what they're going through, and how much of their smoke may pass through here. Click on Near Surface Smoke and Fire Detections at the bottom of the upper left box of options. https://hwp-viz.gsd.esrl.noaa.gov/smoke/

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