Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

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A door-to-door panhandler is becoming angry with folks that refuse to give him money in the 400 block of E. Figueroa Street.

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Roger Jul 08, 2020 10:15 AM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

I hear these calls more lately and feel it's necessary to post them to warn others it's dangerous to open your door in the first place you don't know who people are and if they start getting angry because someone won't give them money there is something wrong there...

Roger Jul 08, 2020 10:16 AM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

Better to call the police and let everyone know then have someone flip out and force their way in or assault someone.

a-1594236039 Jul 08, 2020 12:20 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

We grew up (ages 4-8) on that block. Used to walk to school to Roosevelt, five days a week, a whole group of us. That was a nice, quiet little neighborhood back then. It’s a shame if people can’t feel safe there (or anywhere!) thanks to roaming crazies. Guess now they’re branching out from State St. and the parks. Not enough tourists feeding drink/drugs change to panhandlers?

GeneralTree Jul 08, 2020 05:31 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

The only reason to go downtown any longer is to either catch Covid or have a run-in with a homeless person.

Lem4058 Jul 08, 2020 09:15 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

Unless you happen to live there, like me. Or own a business or work for one. Or get engaged with your community and help make a positive difference in it.

RHS Jul 08, 2020 06:28 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

Not sure what "aggressive" is intended to imply. No actual crime here and no statement of behavior that would be criminal per se. Soliciting alms is a 1st Amendment protected activity. More detail would be appreciated.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jul 08, 2020 06:35 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

Trespassing on private property is criminal, end of discussion. When someone commits that crime, then the issue of how resistant they get when you ask them to leave is subjective. I'll always leave that interpretation open to the property owner by default.

RHS Jul 08, 2020 06:38 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

It is not trespassing to go onto private property in places that the public is generally invited, i.e., the front porch or front door. I doubt that you would have the UPS person arrested for delivering packages there. So, not "end of discussion" under the law.

ChemicalSuperFreak Jul 08, 2020 06:43 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

UPS person has contractual business with the property owner. They are de facto invited by virtue of the purchase and expected delivery. Did you think about that when you wrote your comment? All other approaches to a building are legally described as "solicitation", which by definition are uninvited.

Roger Jul 09, 2020 07:24 AM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

It is trespassing if you go on private property especially if you are asked to leave. Here we have this virus going around and these asshats who usually hang out at grocery stores and freeway exits to panhandle snooping around peoples private homes to panhandle very annoying. Some people knock on doors and if there is no answer they break in. I hope everyone calls the police on these people go to the rescue mission if you need help.

RHS Jul 09, 2020 06:29 PM
Aggressive Panhandler on E. Figueroa

Sometimes Edhat's audience is so disappointing. Ad hoc expressions by uneducated people about difficult legal issues such as what is trespassing and what is allowed under the Constitution and how we should be able to punitively attack someone for behavior that is not even described in the posting but is "clearly wrong" for the vast multitude of judgmentals is pretty sad. A cry to allow due process and to actually know what an issue is about before you pontificate.

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