5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

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I believe Verizon and AT&T turned on 5G networks Wednesday. Does anyone know if our areas have 5G now?

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anTusail Jan 20, 2022 08:53 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

I just clocked less than 1 mb/s download and 0.4 mb/s upload on “5G” here in Goleta (N. La Patera near the lake).

Thanks T-Mobile :(

ZeroHawk Jan 20, 2022 09:11 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

they aren't installed in town....5G towers only transmit 50feet, so you would have to have an array of them really close to your home, which is proven a massive health hazard. i work near Tmobile downtown, they will tell you the same, there is no 5G here nor will there be. ok correction...we have 1 in town near micheltorena. it broadcasts like all other 5G waves, just 50feet.

grummitt Jan 20, 2022 10:26 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

https://www.viavisolutions.com/en-us/5g-technology

5G transmits 500meters (1500 feet), in the mmWave, and nearly a kilometer at other frequencies. So saying '50 ft' is both technologically incorrect, but financially would be just dumb.

TMobile 5G is also up in multiple areas around SB and Goleta, and has been for at least a year.

ZeroHawk Jan 21, 2022 09:20 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

ok, believe what you like. we can all find something to counter one another online. this is nothing more than buyers remorse for being tricked into a 5G phone. Go ask the manager at TMobile, or any one in there...just like i did. they will tell you.

ZeroHawk Jan 20, 2022 09:13 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

also, they haven't turned them on because the local, state, and federal governments (as well as all others on the globe) are against it. they have been trying to turn them on at airports yesterday and were unsuccessful. all major airlines have penned letters to the GOV requesting delays or complete stays. 5G will mess wtih airplanes altimeters. know what that means? pilots can't tell how far they are from the ground....boom. i kid you not.

Sbguy805111 Jan 20, 2022 10:21 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

I’ve had 5g for a year now on my T-Mobile phone… many places around sb and Goleta

ZeroHawk Jan 21, 2022 09:22 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

SBGuy, no you don't.....
your phone is a 5G phone but your service is 4G and 3 and LTE. Just like the rest of us. Unless you live near the financial district in LA, you won't be getting it. SB has decided not to have them installed. but its ok! believe what you like. no harm in that at all.

Always_Running Jan 20, 2022 10:47 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Last night “world news with David Muir” said that smaller airports within 200 miles of a major airport have more air traffic will allow smaller planes that won’t be effected by 5G. Good news for Santa Barbara, more tourist, more money…

LincolnLady Jan 20, 2022 11:13 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

I heard last night on the news that there hadn't been problems in Europe with 5G and airplanes because they use 5G at 1/2 the transmit power used in the U.S. Too much 5G power can mess with an airplane's altimeter. Airplanes may need to be updated with better shielding from all the electronic signals. Also, I've read that 5G acts like an uncovered microwave oven that zaps birds in near proximity. Pluses and minuses with technology.... :-o

a-1642709515 Jan 20, 2022 12:11 PM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Yeah, and I've "heard" that you can pop popcorn with your cellphone. People will believe all kinds of nonsense.

a-1642721378 Jan 20, 2022 03:29 PM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Just had lunch with an experienced pilot who says 5G can definitely create havoc with airplanes.

Voice of Reason Jan 20, 2022 04:12 PM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

It messes with their radar altimeter, a critical instrument for low visibility ILS approaches. The most critical time for all sensors to be operating with the upmost accuracy.

goletabob Jan 20, 2022 05:28 PM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Yep, it is possible. This is a solvable problem though, they just need better filters for the radar altimeters. Some of the current radars have pretty poor filtering since that adjacent spectrum used to be less used. Wireless spectrum is scarce though and it's not ideal to just leave that spectrum quiet and unused just so that airlines don't need to upgrade their altimeters.

The aviation industry does tend to move slowly, but this was surely a problem that radar altimeter makers would have predicted even before the FCC specifically sold that group of frequencies to 5G carriers. So it's surprising that airlines seem to have done little to address this problem that they knew was coming.

jak Jan 21, 2022 07:49 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Goletabob is correct. This is a problem that should have surprised no one. I’ve known about it for years and while I am an rf engineer, neither aircraft instruments nor 5G communications is my specialty. There are certainly a number of things that can be done to mitigate the effects of 5G on radar altimeters. The power used in the critical band can be restricted near airports. The airlines can replace their poorly thought out equipment (radar altimeters have NEVER been licensed for exclusive use of these frequencies and are allowed only if they are able to tolerate interference from licensed users) with more robust designs (yes it’s expensive but not by the standards of airline retrofits). In the end, activation of a few 5G bands will be delayed, the airlines will upgrade cheap and dirty equipment now in use, and there may be power restrictions near certain airports for quite a while. Then the mobile carriers who shelled out billions and billions for legal use of these frequencies will sue the airlines, the instrument makers, and the feds for various violations and the winners will be the lawyers.

Voice of Reason Jan 21, 2022 09:51 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Jak, I read that besides higher powered antennas in the US, the antenna is angled vs. straight up and down which, was new info to some airlines (so they claimed). How would the angle of the antenna mess with the instruments, which on an airplane on approach are always banking/pitching anyway?

ParvoPup Jan 20, 2022 04:02 PM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

What's the big deal?

Ever since my Moderna Vaccine, I've been receiving 5G without even turning on my phone.

Mebk Jan 21, 2022 06:29 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

If I do you really can mess with Radar in airlines what in the world can I do to your body.

ZeroHawk Jan 21, 2022 09:27 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

all of the data and scientific reports are out there ...and it's not good. yes if it can kill birds that are too close to it and can mess with a massive airliners controls, it too will mess up your brain and body.

a-1642802086 Jan 21, 2022 01:54 PM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

6:29 - If the sky is really falling, can I use an umbrella? Maybe you should learn about the subject before spreading FUD.

Luvaduck Jan 21, 2022 07:50 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Time will tell if this makes housing near airports dangerous. If there's a crash into housing b/c of the conflict and weather conditions, they'll figure it out. Right?

a-1642784893 Jan 21, 2022 09:08 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Wow! The number of erroneous and uninformed comments here show a significant problem with lack of understanding of what is actually the issues.

ZeroHawk Jan 21, 2022 09:26 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

that's because everyone is a knowitall with the internet at their fingertips....not realizing you can find foundation for ANY argument online...including one that says the moon is made of cheese. no one seems to use logic, common sense, intelligence...they would rather search for something related to their argument to prove themselves right...when they are wrong.

Sun Jan 21, 2022 10:15 AM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

@893 a statement from the FAA

FAA Statements on 5G
https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-statements-5g

Thursday, January 20, 2022
Visit our 5G and Aviation Safety page for more information.

The FAA issued new approvals Thursday that allow an estimated 78 percent of the U.S. commercial fleet to perform low-visibility landings at airports where wireless companies deployed 5G C-band. This now includes some regional jets.

Airplane models with one of the 13 cleared altimeters include all Boeing 717, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787, MD-10/-11; all Airbus A300, A310, A319, A320, A330, A340, A350 and A380 models; and some Embraer 170 and 190 regional jets.

The FAA is working diligently to determine which altimeters are reliable and accurate where 5G is deployed in the United States. We anticipate some altimeters will be too susceptible to 5G interference. To preserve safety, aircraft with those altimeters will be prohibited from performing low-visibility landings where 5G is deployed because the altimeter could provide inaccurate information.

Passengers should check with their airlines for latest flight schedules.

Deakbs Jan 21, 2022 01:57 PM
5G in Santa Barbara and Goleta

Ever since I got my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G phone over a year ago, I would notice my reception would read 5G. I was informed that I was not actually getting 5G speed because it was a feature I needed to subscribe and activate to, but nonetheless, in certain areas and at times, my phone reception reads 5G. I'm not sure if this is Verizons way of telling and showing me the times and locations I could be benefiting from 5G if I was paying the extra for it or what but it has me feeling nervous because I do not want it.

I came across this peer-reviewed study from the NIH themselves in regards to a connection they found between radio-frequencies including 5G and Covid-19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8580522/

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