Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

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By edhat staff

Santa Barbara County Firefighters responded to a large homeless encampment fire burning along Highway 101 in Goleta on Monday evening.

Fire crews arrived around 11:30 p.m. on the southbound lanes of Highway 101 between Los Carneros and Fairview exits. Initially, crews thought the incident was a structure fire but when the first engine company arrived they learned it was a "large homeless encampment fire" burning between Highway 101 and the railroad tracks, said Fire Captain Daniel Bertucelli.

Crews extinguished the fire and mopped up hot spots. 

California Highway Patrol monitored traffic in the area. There were no reported injuries or damaged structures. 

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Fitness1 Nov 06, 2019 11:42 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

The problem isn't as much 'housing' as it is addiction. As someone with several loved ones with addiction issues, you cannot 'drive' people to rehab. THEY have to want it for themselves. You cannot reason with, plead, cajole, or otherwise get an addict into effective rehab until THEY decide enough is enough. I have one relative who has totaled multiple vehicles, been in jail, been forced into residential rehab, etc. Guess what...he still uses because HE doesn't see the problem. The addict doesn't care that he's homeless, filthy, hungry, etc. ALL he cares about is the next fix and nothing society has to offer such as food, clothing, shelter, relationships, productive work, etc., matter at all to him/her. Until the addict reaches the bottom, until the addict decides he/she needs help, you can offer all the 'services' in the world and it will do NO GOOD. I've been through this rodeo multiple times with family & friends. Until you have seen & been up close & personal with real addiction, you can't even fathom how deep it goes. Those who lost a job & trying to get back on their feet? YES, absolutely extend the help. I honestly don't know what the answer is. The black hole of addiction is so deep I'm not sure of any agency, Fed or State, who can address it. Additionally, it should not be as hard as it currently is to get someone who is clearly a danger to themselves & others, committed to a facility and kept there. Rant over.

Fitness1 Nov 08, 2019 09:16 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Just Me, thank you. It is heartbreaking on so many levels. I'll have to check out the Cordano Center. I've done some volunteering elsewhere, and this sounds very positive.

Just_Me Nov 08, 2019 08:55 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Fitness1, my heart goes out to you. I truly don't know what the answer is, and in general, I agree with you. (ok, some folks will rant me.) But since many of the homeless are not addicts, and have just hit hard times, I've been wanting to do something personally, but I really had no idea where to start, esp since political activism makes me queasy. I recently came across the Father Virgil Cordano Center on Calle Real (just down from State Street - https://frvirgilcordanocenter.org/) and "just for the heck of it" started volunteering there one afternoon a week. Which is tricky, because I"m far from retired :-) The 'members' who drop in to wash clothes, get a bit to eat, have some safe quiet time, and get pointed in the a direction to further help showed me another side of homelessness, people who are not necessarily addicts.

Luvaduck Nov 06, 2019 05:07 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

I get frustrated, too. Ignore down votes. Venting is heathful! It's the people who can't and keep it inside who are the ones most likely to <do> something reprehensible. Those who can use a sense of humor make them more comprehensible. Professional comedians, writers and cartoonists dealing with serious issues are a pressure release that can help solve dire issues non-violently.

yacht rocked Nov 06, 2019 03:36 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

One answer is court-ordered induced Coma, then store the shells in discreet tilt-up industrial warehouses until natural death occurs. OK, well, maybe this isn't the BEST answer. ;)

bigone Nov 06, 2019 11:15 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Well, folks, lot's of thoughts and comments here from many of you regarding my plans to leave this state behind. Being born in Los Angeles and living here all my life is going to be a sacrifice in terms of unparalleled weather. But, like many leaving, the state's condition is the worst it's ever been and I just can't take what's going on here any longer and it's only going to get worse in terms of the main topic here, homelessness, along with increasing crime, taxes, gangs, COL, unchecked immigration, traffic, highest gasoline price in the United States, etc, etc - and that all adds up to a very poor quality of life. So I am willing to sacrifice the climate for a more sane, less costly, and overall pleasurable lifestyle elsewhere. I wonder what the state will do for tax revenue when the middle class keeps departing along with many of the tech companies? All of my best friends have left - a Public Defender, a Superior Court judge, a well-known mathematician and software designer, and a CFO for a large company - all of them have never looked back and they unanimously say it was the best decision they ever made. But I do wish everyone who decides to stay here among the chaos and degradation the very best. In Arnie's voice, "Hasta la Vista, baby!"

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 10:45 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

I gave you an “up vote” until I got to your generalized slam against “boomers”. Then I had to subtract it. It’s not a generation, it’s the greedy rich who have left the next generation poorer than they are. (And, again, that’s a generalization because we boomers are leaving our children and grandchildren a family compound with four units in a great part of town; a compound that all have worked on to increase its value.)

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 06:35 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

SBOBSERVER And others telling BEGONE how sorry he'll be after he's moved away-----PLEASE KNOCK IT OFF. Just say your good-byes. You don't have to wax rhapsodic over how nice and special it is here. There may be out-of-towners reading this thread. DO NOT encourage people to move here.

Eminence Threat Nov 06, 2019 06:17 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

BEGONE... ..... May your every day be filled with planning vacations to avoid the weather where it is you moved to. May you dream of coming back here to visit and sleep on our couches while you bitch and moan about our cost of living and tell us how lovely it is wherever you moved to. May you be damned to spend eternity trapped in your car in traffic, with spotty cell service and only Spanish radio with bad reception, dependent entirely on drive through food and never reaching your destination or finding a parking spot. May all of your cultural interface be in Big Box Stores. May all your new friends be Ex-Californians because the locals will see you all as the kind people only concerned for yourselves, with no actual connection to any community. May they rightfully see you as the type of person not to be trusted. May your vacations be your sanctity.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 01:59 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

My line in the sand is the Bishop Ranch. If that place gets developed my little slice of Goleta will be traffic hell. I'm out of here when the bulldozers start...

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 01:27 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

SBO, I've heard your perspective all my life from locals. It's all good but but you've not been to the right places. I've traveled the world and there are many amazing alternatives to SB/Goleta. Overseas isn't right for us until the kids get out of school. But me and my family have in the past 2 years visited several towns in OR, WA, CO, and AZ where we would definitely consider living. The wife says just give her the green light, put the house on the market, and we're out of here. We're both born and raised in Goleta, so leaving family would be the hardest thing.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 01:02 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

SBOBSERVER - clap clap clap. Yes. 100% right on. I've visited friends and family that fled CA and while their homes are all bigger now, their neighborhoods are bland, their towns are full of Walmarts, Red Robins, and every other boring chain you can think of, there's no beach within 100s of miles, and churches on every corner. If you like it, go for it. But no thanks for me man, no thanks.

SantaBarbaraObserver Nov 06, 2019 12:49 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Why the need to sing your swan song BigOne? Just leave. No one really cares what your reasons are or where you're going. If you're not happy here, leave. ------------------------------------ There are many nice places in the USA to live. Some offer better lifestyle, some offer cheaper living, some offer a more limited demographic that suits your particular feather. But none, not a single place in the USA is as nice as Santa Barbara, CA. None have the beauty and the weather and the limited population. None have the access to the culture and variety paired with the low population. After you go you will miss the beach, the views, the mountains, the warm winter weather the perfect summers along with the great mix of food and culture. You will miss the beauty of State St (even though it has its issues) and the way the sun lights up the mountains. You will want to come back after you realize mini malls, lukewarm muddy lakes and insular communities based around churches are not that inviting... But maybe you drive a giant truck, prefer to eat fast food, shop at Walmart and watch a lot of TV instead of being active outdoors or interested in other flavors. If that's your thing, AZ and TX are perfect for what you like. But they're really hot. Really, really hot in the summer so be ready to live inside. -------------------------------------------- The funny thing about the CA haters, they seem to have no idea that CA is a microcosm of the USA. We have every climate. Every culture. Every business and every opportunity. The largest, most influential and powerful companies and universities are here. The future has been invented here time and time again. All this is paired with the best weather and natural beauty of anywhere on earth. That is the reason its so expensive by the way... supply and demand. --------------------------------------------- P.S. CA is fading, but its not due to what you cite. Its due to too many people and a generation of selfish, greedy people (Boomer's) who stole the future from from their grand-kids. The Boomers destroyed CA. They were gifted the greatest economy, the greatest opportunities in human history and boy did they stick it to the future gens. They are the first and only generation in American history to leave their kids worse off then they. So if you want to blame someone, blame the Hippies who became Yuppies and ate the world. They took the best for themselves and pulled up the ladder leaving everyone forthcoming to fight for the scraps....

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 11:26 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

"chaos and degradation" hahaha, yeah it's awful here! Funny how all my conservative family and friends are constantly telling me how terrible my quality of life is. Yeah, living comfortably in a house with my wife and kids within walking distance to the beach, 1/2 day drive from skiing/snowboarding, 10 minutes from concerts, fine dining, and museums, while still enjoying the quiet solitude of rural Goleta is just horrible.... it is total chaos I tell you! HAhahahahaHA!

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 08:59 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Again?! This is about the fifth fire over there in a couple years! Exasperating that we’re all being put in dire danger so that a few can warm their hands or dinner. That’s what warming centers are for!

Luvaduck Nov 06, 2019 05:12 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Can't cook meth at a warming center. Someone else put it well: Need to separate the can nots, and do nots from the will nots. The first two benefit from a hand up; the second is a danger.

sacjon Nov 06, 2019 10:24 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

SBWOMAN (10:01) - great idea! Having campgrounds with basic facilities available for those who want help and are willing to try is wonderful. The problem is, many in the homeless population do not want any help. Either they are mentally incapable of taking it, or they flat out prefer life on the streets. The other problem with the camps is, many people here are touting them as a mandatory solution for homeless people, meaning you go to the camp or you go to jail. That is just illegal and immoral. We need to find a balance between the two options.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 10:01 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

How about 2 countywide remote permanent 24/7 County and City financed campgrounds with Toilet , shower, storage, and safe vehicle parking facilities for those not in need of short or long term institutionalized supervised medical care? MTD 6a and 6p transport to few day labor pick up zones for those willing to work. We spent $5Million talking. Time to act.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 08:58 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

I believe in making lists. Let's make a list of suggestions for our city/county leaders, who are paid to protect us. (1) Put signs up that say, "no fires here" and "no camping here" "no drugs here" "no defecation here" (2) Put up live webcams in those areas (it's not that expensive). (3) Arrest and charge anyone who is viewed lighting a fire in an encampment. (4) Declare a local State of Emergency, with penalties, for these ARSON fire starters encampments, especially during Red Flag Warnings, or Sundowners. (5) Put teeth into charges with goal of keeping these EAs (Encampment Arsonists) away. What of your suggestions can County Supervisors get behind? Once we have a good list, send it to all supervisors, city councils, police chiefs, sheriff, city managers, etc. TODAY BE HEARD.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 09:39 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

No one is listening. Wake UP! Homelessness is BIG BUSINESS. Each local must act to end invasion. Photo, shout out every enabler.

oops Nov 06, 2019 07:21 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Why hasn't there been a response from the City Leaders? Is it not important enough? Too tough of a problem to tackle or get their brains wrapped around? All the while we are having to purchase generators to keep our power going to our homes & businesses during a wind storm likes some 3rd world country. CA is the laughing stock around the rest of the country.

CoastWatch Nov 06, 2019 05:22 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

@BIGONE- Out of the 16 homes on our street, 4 have sold and left the once "Golden State"... Three went to Southern Oregon and One to AZ.... They said they were leaving for all the SAME reasons you listed. With the money they saved leaving , they can afford multiple vacations to Europe, Hawaii and visiting relatives in CA... Makes sense to me! One friend left for an area just north of Seattle and it was as bad as CA, so he moved to Northern Idaho....!

bigone Nov 06, 2019 03:22 PM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Zenyatta19, you just inspired me to pull the Blancmange LP out and start spinning the vinyl. Funny how some songs, movies, and ideas are more relevant today than when they came out. Cheers!

bigone Nov 06, 2019 11:30 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Cristinas, I'm looking at towns in AZ, Texas, and a few others. And those local folks in any Red state I decide to move to don't have to worry about me taking the radical California ideas with me :) I was in two other states recently; regular grade of gasoline was $2.12 in one and $2.39 in the other and did not see any homeless camps in either. Initial investigations into nice, modern, well appointed homes 2000-3000 sf in pleasant surroundings on moderate acreage display a lot of choices for less then $450k. Sure makes one wonder why the heck sane people are staying here, unless you are multi-millionaire Hollywood, Tech, Newson, Pelosi, or Feinstein types living with armed guards, chauffeurs, and in those 8000 sf "compounds" behind locked gates.

Ahchooo Nov 06, 2019 11:08 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

And yet people still want to live in California. Maybe because we have the sixth largest economy in the world, despite our many failings? It’s not just the weather that keeps people here. Yes, we have too many moochers, but we also have scads of attractive employment.

PitMix Nov 06, 2019 10:08 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Good luck with leaving. Once you leave the coast, you are subject to really hot summer days and intense winter weather due to climate change. Maybe some of the problems you see as overwhelming here will start to look less significant after a few years in Idaho/Vegas/Utah/Bend/Spokane. By the way, those places aren't too happy about Califas coming and driving up their cost of living.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 10:05 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Politicians are not paid to lead. They merely sit at meetings to hear what career bureaucrats have decided. Stop grant money to end homelessness in SB County.

SantaBarbaraObserver Nov 06, 2019 10:03 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

If you had kids, you are responsible. If you are an immigrant to the state, you are responsible. Remember CA had Republican governors for many years, all during a time when we should have been planning and building for the future, they were cutting spending and privatizing public services. While I am not assigning blame to them per se, the cause of most of your concerns have more to do with the population boom of the last 40 years (especially unfettered illegal immigration) than the party or the color of their tie... Too many people, that is our problem. Think how nice CA would be with today's technology and 20 million people instead of 40million. Yes, illegal immigration has played a HUGE part in this decline. At the heart of every one of our problems is over-population for a limited amount of room and resources.

LCP112233 Nov 06, 2019 09:51 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

@9:38. Actually leaving California is about raising your standard of living. Better houses, cheaper gas, less taxes. Not to mention safety to get the heck away from all the miss managed forests that are burning down houses each and every year. Power outages galore. And bums living in and around your parks and neighborhoods. I have been here for 50 years and never have seen it as bad as it is these days. If not for my loved ones, I would get the heck out too.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 09:38 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

BIGONE - you fleeing CA for more conservative pastures? I've had a few family members and friends do that. Leave everything they love behind just so they don't have to be around "liberals" anymore. It's sad.

a-1574466312 Nov 06, 2019 08:40 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

I remember when there were more republicans on the Silly council then Demonrats and those noodles were not just wet they were soaked...Nothing much got done then either.

bigone Nov 06, 2019 08:15 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

SBO; and let's not forget the disturbing thought Murillo will be running for the vacancy created by Limon's departure as she runs for the Senate. Reminds me of some of the lyrics in a Blamcmange song: "Blind hope, blind visions Blind centre, one centre Blind living and seeing Blind hell, blind hell Blind visions and no reasons For action blind words".

SantaBarbaraObserver Nov 06, 2019 07:50 AM
Large Homeless Camp Catches Fire in Goleta

Because our Mayor is incapable of mustering the courage let alone the words to tackle anything. She is a wet noodle who has proven completely inept in leadership and management. By far the worst mayor in our towns history. Sadly, she was elected at a time when this town needs strong, capable, experienced leadership. Yet she has proven completely incapable of delivering those traits and, ironically, thinks she is due a promotion! Who is whispering these ideas into her head? Who is her puppet master? Or is her ego so big that she actually thinks she is effective? Pfff. She wanted the job, so she either takes the heat or gets out of the kitchen. Most of the city's voters would prefer the latter as she has truly failed to move the city closer to anything but insolvency and distrust... A good mayor, a strong leader would have been out in front of these issues, loudly and effectively marshaling resources to solve problems and reassuring the city's residents. Not Cathy Murillo. Nope. For her it's luncheons, photo-ops and some of the least effective management possible. She really needs to go, quickly.

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