Missing Historical Marker?

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Missing Historical Marker?
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By KC

Just before the top of Pass on 154, the old road can be followed to the Left, past Cold Spring Tavern, under the bridge, etc.  Just after you leave 154 to the Left, in a short distance, there was a LARGE Historical Marker on top of a large Boulder. If memory is correct, the marker information explained that general Fremont's troops camped on that spot before going down the mountain to take Santa Barbara. The boulder is now cracked and damaged beyond anything caused by nature, at least in my opinion. The Marker is gone! 

Why?  When did this happen? Is this another attempt to "correct" an event is history that some folks find wrong? Somehow this just seems wrong.  Can someone here explain?


Update by an edhat reader

Here are 2 photos for the historic marker arrival that came out a day or so ago. 


Update by John Lewis

I noticed there are several comments on the Freemont Marker which is missing or damaged. I took this photo of it in December 2018 and you're welcome to post it to your website.

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John Wiley Mar 25, 2019 06:10 PM
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Interesting history (and HERstory) starting at 27 Dec 1846 in the Timeline section of the Conquest of California wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_California#Timeline_of_events

EastBeach Mar 27, 2019 07:43 AM
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Nice link and motivation to learn more about the history of how CA and TX came to be part of the US. If my introductory skim is correct, the US annexed CA and TX from Mexico? Perhaps Putin was just following our lead in Ukraine? Had no idea Kit Carson was in play at the time.

tangfuss Mar 23, 2019 07:50 AM
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We stopped by yesterday and checked out the toppled rock and the gapping hole where it had been “rooted.” Gravity is not just a good idea, it's the law. Photo being sent in to Ed.

Flicka Mar 22, 2019 05:36 PM
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NATURE BOY, Fremont helped take Santa Barbara from Mexico, for the United States.

Nature Boy Mar 20, 2019 11:26 PM
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So how about some actual historical facts? Was General Fremont a bad guy? When did he “take” Santa Barbara and who did he take it from? Did he warrant a plaque in his honor? If not, I’m not saying it was right to remove it, just looking for some backstory.

Z Mar 25, 2019 05:13 PM
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Fremont was a fairly competent explorer, mediocre map maker, and opportunistic politician. His military skills were lacking; as a general officer he spent the Civil War being relieved of commands. He was the Repubublican Party's first Presidential Candidate. Thoroughly overrated.

SBZZ Mar 20, 2019 09:44 PM
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If the marker was made of copper someone probably hauled it off to the recycling center.

tagdes Mar 25, 2019 04:02 PM
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Most all of the Camino Real bells were replaced with fiberglass ones years ago. Over half had already been stolen from remote areas then, some 20 to 30 years ago.

harmless gardener Mar 21, 2019 08:51 AM
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Almost certainly, it was stolen for scrap. Bronze plaques are a prime target for thieves to steal and sell for scrap metal. Camino Real bells are also targets. It's a societal lowest common denominator thing.

26tpi Mar 20, 2019 08:44 PM
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It's hard to tell who is actually serious here, but I am and I think it's a shame when our town loses the things that make it interesting. I do know it didn't simply fall down, It's not "under the Boulder", and the rock did not crack and have large chunks break off on it's own, or move in the last rain event.

Z Mar 25, 2019 04:54 PM
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So 26tpi aare you a witness? A suspect? A person of interest? How do you know these things?

Potif Mar 21, 2019 01:59 AM
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I am curious... How do you know the marker isn’t under the boulder? Or that the boulder didn’t fall on its own?

patrick Mar 20, 2019 03:54 PM
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Comparing this picture to the a Google street view one, I’d guess the rock fell flat on its face.

Z Mar 20, 2019 03:26 PM
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That US annexation thing hasn't been working out, forget Fremont and the marker.

420722 Mar 20, 2019 02:53 PM
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Google maps street view isn’t a current/live image that could’ve been taken months ago.

studio2 Mar 20, 2019 02:13 PM
Missing Historical Marker?

May not support the link, but you can still see it on Google Maps street view here: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5112903,-119.8247492,3a,71.9y,244.76h,80.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS6lreO6BgsWlNGF06lR78A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

studio2 Mar 20, 2019 02:10 PM
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It came down a couple weeks ago with the rain. The marker is still there, it's just under the rock.

REX OF SB Mar 20, 2019 11:25 AM
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Someone thought it was going to be used as the subject of a March Edness photo, so they moved it so no one could find it.

oceandrew Mar 20, 2019 10:54 AM
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Best check the other Fremont marker on Foxen Cyn Rd for support on any conspiracy theory.

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