State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

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By edhat staff

The Santa Barbara City Council decided to remove two fountains on State Street due to dilapidation and misuse.

The vote was unanimous on Tuesday with Councilwoman Kristen Sneddon absent. 

Two blue-tiled and star-shaped fountains flank either side of Hotel Santa Barbara in the 500 block of State Street. They were installed in 2007 and included flowing water, however, due to the drought the water was turned off in 2014 and replaced with succulents and other drought-tolerant plants. 

Labeled as an "attractive nuisance," the proposal to remove the fountains was originally submitted to the Santa Barbara City Historic Landmarks Commission in December who rejected the request. That decision was appealed to the City Council who ultimately approved the removal.

Supporters of the removal claim transients use the fountains as bathrooms and storage while others damage it with skateboards, on top of them being dry for many years. Those against the removal of the fountains claim they are pieces of local art making Santa Barbara unique and shouldn't be removed for other people's misuse. 

The removal of the two fountains is expected to take place in April.

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jsavell Mar 17, 2019 12:08 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

San Francisco spends $32,000 per homeless person and the problem is worse than ever. 30 % are drug addicted- i know wealthy people who have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on therapy for their addicted children with no improvement. What is the likelihood that government programs can improve those already addicted? 60% are mentally ill. If they were offered treatment most would probably not take their meds. Even if they took them they won't be functioning members of society. I believe that the answer is to make it so uncomfortable for these transients that they go somewhere else. New Orleans cleaned up the French Quarter. Guiliani cleaned up New York. The police must be allowed to do their job and put a stop to this antisocial behavior. My solution does not treat mental illness or addiction, if that's even possible. It cleans up Santa Barbara.

REX OF SB Mar 16, 2019 08:35 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

The answer is REALLY simple: just replace the fountains with pissoirs, like they have in Paris. That way, not only do the bums and tourists have a place to pee, but pissoirs would add an air of European elegance to lower State Street. I guarantee you, the tourists would love it! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/testing-pariss-new-public-pissoir-the-uritrottoir-wwgj9g8tv

oceandrew Mar 17, 2019 08:54 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

No, no, no REX... giving those without a pot to piss in a pot to piss in is just encouraging the lifestyle. Just think of all the children who will be tempted.

a-1553532051 Mar 16, 2019 09:23 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Nostra here... As I stated yesterday.. After years of attempting to have council review my proposal (& NOT the readers of this forum who have zero authority), without success..I tossed it into a State st trash, which I felt would be a poetic finale. The answer to your problem lies on the very street concerned.. until the trash gets emptied.

SBWalkers Mar 16, 2019 08:23 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Re: Fountains... Hey SB City Council, now that's really 'thunking'... removing the effect, not the cause. You really think removing the fountains will fix the problems? Com'on, you should remove those people sleeping and sitting on the sidewalks. I walk downtown, via Sola, Haley, Guiterrez and Montecito, every day, and they are growing... Say nothing of the ones hanging at TJ's

Roger Mar 16, 2019 09:55 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

I believe they might be enforced to a point the police respond as they are called and with alittle "Move along" that is the end of that. If they refuse to move along they are cited or arrested so our problem lies not with the police but the Courts and the LAW's which through the years have weakened.

bigone Mar 15, 2019 10:06 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Well CoastWatch and SantaBarbaraObservor, there goes the First Amendment/Free Speech argument in support of not deleting any reader comments in any form or suggestions. Guess we might as well be reading the Los Angeles Times; I suspect EdHat may be supported by them. :)

Edhat Staff Mar 15, 2019 10:17 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

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Lucky 777 Mar 15, 2019 03:28 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

I've lived here long enough to have watched downtown go from a vibrant scene with stores for locals, grocery and pet stores, reasons to shop there, to a battleground with bums and trash and dogs I dare not walk my hounds past. After decades running a business on lower State I no longer see any reason to go there, and many reasons not to.

Roger Mar 15, 2019 04:52 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Your a Newbe you don't remember The Pet House or The deli, plus another time you said you lived right around the corner from the 1200 Block of State now it's the 500 Block...The pet house, and the deli were both fixtures on State street for years obviously before your time lol..Hehehehe...

a-1553532051 Mar 15, 2019 04:15 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

ZEROHAWK: Don't you remember The Pet House? It was a fixture in the 700 block of State Street for decades. The Italian-Greek Market (AKA Johnny's) was similarly a landmark at State & Ortega Streets. Also, it's "tax write-off," not "right off."

ZeroHawk Mar 15, 2019 04:07 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

grocery and pet stores? ive lived downtown for close to 2 decades and don't recall any grocery or pet stores downtown. which city are you referring to? goleta or SB? this thread is about state street and there have never been stores like this. Unless you mean World Market? which is still there? The problem also lay with the building owners, raising rents higher and higher. They evict, shutter the building and use it as a tax right off...which invites homeless, and people walking their dogs downtown to use it as their pets toilet.

GeneralTree Mar 15, 2019 03:19 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Every since Reagan put the mentally ill out on the streets and the conservatives have cut funding for mental health programs the homeless population has skyrocketed. I never seem to see enough police presence downtown. We are an affluent community that can't take care of our own policing needs. The homeless problem is so bad downtown - aggressive panhandlers, groups of young squatter kids, drunk, drugged, or needing mental health treatment.

SantaBarbaraObserver Mar 16, 2019 08:41 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Reagan's term was 45 years ago. Its time for the blame to stop. We've had 40+ years to change that fateful decision, and yet we have not... We simply do not care about caring for other people. There is simply no other way to see it. We choose to spend billions on stupid, unnecessary things while people are left to fall by the wayside. Stop pretending its all due to some budgetary decision by a Governor that you may not have liked when its actually you, and your family and friends who have chosen to elect the people who continue to tax you more and spend less and less on the core issues that impact society greatest. Its a matter of priorities. Our leaders simply do not care enough to take from their masters/ benefactors and give to the needy. And the worst part? Most of these so-called 'leaders' have the audacity to call themselves good Christians... pffff

Roger Mar 16, 2019 07:50 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Bull Manure ACLU had nothing to do with Reagan's decision to dump the mentally ill out of institutions...It all started like before he was President he did the same thing as Gov. He did it all by his lonesome..

CoastWatch Mar 15, 2019 08:02 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Reagan had no chioice- The ACLU demanded rights for the institutionalized ... So next time someone cries about Reagan, please educate them on the ENTIRE fact.

a-1553532051 Mar 15, 2019 02:34 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Seems to me that this highlights the fact that, even if there were public restrooms for all to use - including the homeless - this would be (and has been ) the ultimate plight of those "facilities" due to those who don't have any respect for basic human decency. So anyone saying we need more facilities for the homeless should take a good look at this and realize why we can't do that. Not all homeless pee and poop just anywhere - but so many do that this is the end result. Seems like the final answer is to make it so hard for them to exist that they leave. Sad for those who are respectful but unless they do something about those who are not, this will always be the end result.

a-1553532051 Mar 15, 2019 02:16 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

OMG who is the name blacked out/black line comment suggesting we turn State Street into a open sewer lol!! Are you kidding, it smells bad enough now and just imagine "Come To Santa Barbara where State Street is lined with a sewage pathway". Anyways, Never a peep from Murillo on this, how on earth did that woman ever get elected? Majority must not have turned out to vote that day. Also, NOSTRA is on here again with their plan yet we never hear it. Hm.

a-1553532051 Mar 15, 2019 01:56 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Mayor Murillo is heavily involved with the US Conference of Mayors Hunger and Homelessness Task Group. She also never misses a chance to be part of the local Protest Machine. Front and center she is on every progressive issue worthy of a photo op at DLG Plaza or on State St. And, she is on our dime....stupid us.

a-1553532051 Mar 15, 2019 01:43 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

I think we would all love to understand what the plan is to decrease the homeless presence downtown and around the freeways. The city can't ever revive downtown without first addressing the homeless issue.

SBZZ Mar 15, 2019 12:45 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

This pathetic decision by the SBCC and situation got me down until I read some of these posts - interesting and funny. SBObserver - you cracked me up and made my day!

Lina24 Mar 15, 2019 12:27 PM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

They add to the charm of our city and should stay. Perhaps removing the greenery and covering those spots with tile will alleviate the current issues of them being used for urinals, etc.

a-1553532051 Mar 15, 2019 11:08 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

Mayor Murillo said she was going to approach the homeless problem with compassion. She is a compassionate mayor who is tackling the problem head on. She also knows how to attract business to downtown due to her incredible business background. Two weeks ago I counted no less than 23 empty storefronts (between Haley and Sola)...without Mayor Murrillo, that number would be much higher.

bigone Mar 15, 2019 10:17 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

What a ridiculous "unanimous" decision by the council. How can they actually believe this will reduce or affect the homeless problem? Taxpayers and business owners payed for them to be built. Now taxpayers and businesses will pay for removing them, kind of like our nuclear power plants. The fountains should stay and maybe the council should go instead.

ZeroHawk Mar 15, 2019 10:04 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

well....here we go again. please show some proof that the two fountains are toilets and skate ramps and storage for homeless people. because i live around the corner from these and am down there about 5 times a week on the average. there is none of this going on. the drunks and homeless and vagrants are on lower state, past this, where everything is shuttered. The city likes to blow our tax dollars on things, then they don't like to pay for maintenance and upkeep. also hosing down the side walks is normal for cities and helps keep the area clean. Ventura does this in the mornings and even has crews walking around during the day time, picking up trash, emptying cans, picking up gum and dog crap. That brings up another issue. I see more over entitled dog owners letting their animals pee and poo all over state street. THIS we see daily, not the bums doing it, it's the dog owners using our sidewalks and downtown as a toilet....so maybe start siting them and not the crazy homeless dude digging for cans...

Sprigofsage Mar 15, 2019 09:40 AM
State Street Fountains to be Removed Next Month

I was in SB a couple weeks ago and my friend and I scrutinized state street, trying to spot the horrors that await pedestrians. We only noted a couple grocery carts covered in tarps, and empty storefronts. No gypsies tramps or thieves. It was raining though. Hmmm maybe some motion-activated sprinklers should be installed LOL

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