Dogs in Restaurants?

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I bought a sandwich at South Coast Deli. As I was waiting I saw a dog partially standing on a table. I was floored that the owner allowed this considering that someone else would sit there soon, but I also noticed that the staff did nothing. Is this now allowed by the Health Department? It seems strange, but with the radical changes in Santa Barbara I'd say anything is possible now.

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Mesarats Feb 20, 2019 10:28 AM
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County ordinance regarding dogs in restaurants link below Comments on Edhat often can’t be taken as a representation of a reflection of the population. Hot button topics tend to bring out more anti comments and don’t account for the majority who don’t give a rip. So many restaurants in SB don’t last a year, yet Brewhouse has been dog friendly for over 20 years and Mesa Cafe over 30, probably longer than the negative commenters have lived here. I have a low tolerance for family friendly places where kids run around screaming so I don’t go to those places. If dogs are a pet peeve, there are other choices. https://countyofsb.org/uploadedFiles/phd/PROGRAMS/EHS/4000.23%20PP%20Criteria%20for%20Animals%20Allowed%20in%20Outdoor%20Patio%20Dining.pdf

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 10:10 PM
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Insensitive dog owners who could care less about how other's feel or people with allergies or the like - like some posters on here who just keep defending themselves, better beware. Lots of people are upset about this - Carp even banned dogs from beaches. Carp also banned smoking before SB did - I bet SB ends up addressing the dog problem at some point.

PitMix Feb 21, 2019 08:27 AM
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Plenty of off leash dogs on the Carp beaches every time I am there. Someone should tell them about this supposed ban.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 10:07 PM
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Majority of people - including people on here - do not want stranger's dogs around them when they go out for a nice meal and nice time. Solution: If a business is legally allowed to have dogs on premises, then they should also be required to create a completely separate outside dining area for people with dogs. Separate, not just outside. Similar to the "smoking sections" of old, Problem solved.

420722 Feb 19, 2019 06:18 PM
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ATTN: Business Owners! Are you paying attention? Clearly the majority of us do not want dogs/cats or animals of any kind around while we eat. Please enforce this public health and safety law..thank you!

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 07:48 PM
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News flash from Ireland: "New law allowing dogs in designated areas of restaurants proving good for business."

winter Feb 19, 2019 05:24 PM
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I would never tie my dog up...or have it anywhere but beside me. Am surprised, mostly on the Mesa, about this. Didn't mean to go on this thread so long...we need to talk at a forum or something.... Just rented a house....got picked over people with small children..my dogs have references.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 04:56 PM
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dogs are tied up outside on the patio at Starbucks on the Mesa. They bark pull on the chair/table and make it very unpleasant for the rest of us.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 04:56 PM
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Winter - Really? Just because some people don't like sharing their restaurant dining experience with dogs, doesn't make them "dog haters." I LOVE my pup and have always had dogs, but never dragged them to restaurants or shops and shared tables with them. They're dogs. They like to run and play in their yards, not get tied to a metal table while you sit and eat. Some people!

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 04:46 PM
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I've also seen dogs in Sprouts and Lazy Acres. One of them smelled like the animal had sprayed. I reported them to the California Department of Public Health. I never heard back but am hoping that the stores did. I can't believe that people would think that bringing dogs into a store is OK.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 04:40 PM
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Your dog for your home. No need to have a dog under a table in a restaurant patio area.

Luvaduck Feb 19, 2019 03:36 PM
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Simple solution to this one: Service dogs need to be certified and the certificate embossed like birth certificates are. Laminate it, attach it to the dog's collar and be ready to show it. Every one else, Take your pets to places set up for them--dog parks, to lunch at the home of a similarly inclined friend, etc.

winter Feb 19, 2019 03:11 PM
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I do understand the service dog abuse claim..anybody can claim that their pet is a service animal. For 15 years, I have been a trained Hospice pet therapist..gone to nursing homes, assisted living homes, private homes... Just want to eat on an outside patio with our nice weather and my dog stays right under the table. Have 2 rescue dogs I would never do that with. Most of us are really responsible...

winter Feb 19, 2019 04:24 PM
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Thanks for your post...I really don't see any dogs out of line on outside patios. They do make many people and kids happy !

winter Feb 19, 2019 04:25 PM
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Thanks for your post...I really don't see any dogs out of line on outside patios. They do make many people and kids happy !

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 03:42 PM
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Winter, I agree with you. There definitely seems to be an abuse of "service" and "therapy" dog claims. However, from what I have experienced, most owners who bring their dogs to pet-friendly restaurants or brew pubs seem quite responsible and I don't think I've ever seen anyone be offended or taken aback that someone has their dog there. In fact, most of the time I see people coming up to dogs that aren't even there own and either petting or complementing the owner on how nice their dog is. I know I certainly have. And what is with all these negative comments from posters here about "slob American dog owners"? I don't get it - most of the owners I have seen at public places with their dogs are not "slobs". In fact, when I think about, most dogs seem to have better manners than a lot of humans I've encountered.

bigone Feb 19, 2019 12:07 PM
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It's actually sad to see all the comments here as it reminds me of a political dispute in today's far-left, far-right country. I love dogs, I own a dog and always will, so obviously I don't mind them in public establishments. But I do believe they should be well-mannered, controlled, not infringing upon other patrons, and certainly not jumping up or sitting on tables or defecating. But I also don't believe all the sanitary worries that have been posted here. No one has mentioned that the most disease laden item at a restaurant you are likely to encounter is the menu you hold in your hands, not the dog at a table next to you. And no one has mentioned that studies have proven that people (i.e., children) who grow up around dogs have a far greater resistance to disease and infection. Any "Anti-Whataboutism" advocates, please stop reading now, even though this is not a "whataboutism": To quote from a medical publication, "We live in a society hell-bent on becoming sterile, and as a result, children are not being exposed to enough bacteria and stimulants that help form a robust immune system. The Journal of Pediatrics pointed out that kids who grow up with dogs are less likely to get sick than children who live without. They also connected family dogs to a lower risk of allergies." Indeed, I cannot recall ever getting sick from a dog, but I can certainly tell you I have gotten colds and the flu from human beings in public places. And for those of you who are dog-phobic about canines being in public places, I suggest you never visit France, Italy, Germany, Britain, Switzerland, Belgium, Slovenia, or many other European countries. Someone's dog just might lick you in a pub or restaurant :)

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 02:58 PM
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I don't know who "Bigone" is, but what are YOU talking about? I have not been to all European countries, but those that I have been to (France, England, Scotland, Italy, Germany) have had dogs in at least a few of the restaurants I've been to, including indoor dining areas. And I've found more human hair in my food at restaurants than dog hair as your other comment claims. You certainly have a right to your opinion, but you obviously are not a dog lover. It does seem more and more dog owners are bringing their pets to restaurants, but I see no harm in it if they are confined to outside areas and health regulations are followed. I think I heard a news report that at least 10 states allow dogs in designated areas in eating establishments with more predicted to follow, so you'd better get used to it or just dine inside where you go.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 01:16 PM
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BIGONE what are you talking about? My family on both sides hails from Europe - 3 separate countries, we still have property there and I've been there tons of times and dogs are not everywhere as you claim. In fact, they are almost nowhere in restaurants or clothing stores, especially in Italy and Slovenia (where my grandmother was from) as they believe in manners and would never tolerate a dog in a restaurant. They would not even put up with that over there and would find it disgusting (hence the stereotype of disgusting slob Americans who might take dogs to such public places.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 12:55 PM
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BIGONE this isn't political. I don't want to come home with your dog's hair/fur on my clothing after going shopping, or on anything for that matter. Nor do I want your dog's hair on or around my food. Not much I can do about a menu other than use something to wipe it down or use antibacterial stuff on my hands but you can do something about your dog - keep it home and away from clothing stores and food establishments, period.

SantaBarbaraObserver Feb 19, 2019 10:44 AM
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Every woman I know who has a condition that requires a service animal (and yes, they're all women) also happen to be wrapped up in pseudo-science and crockery. Whether its the latest cure all trend (cumin this year) or the insanity of being anti-vaccination, I see a correlation between those who distrust medical science and rely on their feelings to guide their health choices and the sudden need for a service animal at their side at all times. Feelings are not facts people...

SantaBarbaraObserver Feb 19, 2019 12:20 PM
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This is why we can't have nice things. There are people (like your friends )who truly benefit from the support of their dogs. But sadly, abusers take advantage of the situation and ruin it with their selfish deeds. Selfishness. Its the 8th deadly sin and its rampant in our society and our city these days...

Abc109 Feb 19, 2019 11:33 AM
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SB Observer, you've got it backwards. Service animals are there for a medical need and specific tasks. HOWEVER I do know two male veterans, and another male with a brain injury, that bona-fide require Support animals. The co-dependent animal owners who just want an excuse to bring FiFi everywhere they go really ruin it for those people with genuine needs.

MasterChief Feb 19, 2019 09:43 AM
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If you don't want to be around our furry buddies,You are free to go Elsewhere.

poptop Feb 19, 2019 05:01 PM
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let the merchant know if you prefer dogs or not. they can decide what is best for there business.

MasterChief Feb 19, 2019 09:41 AM
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The more I'm around people, the more I prefer the company of my DOG'S! Think we'll all go out for lunch today. Animals are cleaner than Most people I see in local establisments,Better Manners Too!

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 12:56 PM
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Anti social personality disorder?

PitMix Feb 19, 2019 10:34 AM
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Another one of the "I love dogs more than people" people. I love my dogs, but not more than people.

Flicka Feb 19, 2019 09:35 AM
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I always had dogs and never took them into town. They ran free at home, went to the beach and for walks but not into others' territory. They only got in the car for going to the Veterinarian. Why are people so insecure they need to take their "dog/children" everywhere?

oops Feb 19, 2019 09:17 AM
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Dogs are not people. The shouldn't be allowed in restaurants or stores. Finally, Costco banned them. I do not want a dog interactions at home depot or any other establishment

poptop Feb 19, 2019 04:59 PM
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it's good to know which merchants ban dogs.

4358ed Feb 19, 2019 09:12 AM
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just before Christmas, I saw a dog poop in CVS. The owner was there and was clearly distressed about it, but she let the dog continue its business. She then used a bag to collect it and put it in her purse. Gross and gross.

PitMix Feb 19, 2019 08:59 AM
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In situations where it is not obvious that the dog is a service animal, staff may ask only two specific questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? This applies to the business staff, but I guess members of the public can ask as many rude questions as they want? I love dogs, and have 3, but I have a niece who is really allergic and will break out in hives if she touches a place where a dog has been. So we need to try to keep the public areas safe for her.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 08:27 AM
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LOCALINSB, were you served your sandwich directly onto the table? No plate, no paper wrapping, no clingfilm? Your food was never in direct contact with any area the pooch touched with his paws. People with far more questionable hygiene have touched and slathered on these outdoor surfaces that have probably not been washed since they left their manufacturing plant. So you're grossed out... fine. Get over it.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 09:20 AM
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True, but I've yet to see a baby lick its own butt.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 08:38 AM
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ADDENDUM - Babies are allowed to touch and crawl over tables used for serving food. Have you seen babies wash their hands before coming to the table? Have you seen where babies go and what they touch or even bring to their mouths? Way more disgusting than dogs. Now had you been talking about the outdoor tables at Arigato I'd be right with you at keeping pooches floored but SoCoastDeli?? That's on the par with Starbucks and I'm sure you've seen WHO uses the outdoor tables there.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 08:25 AM
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County Supervisors, Ask them to enforce health codes vigorously (all restaurants should have sign in window NO PETS): Das Williams, Phone: (805) 568-2186, E-mail: dwilliams@countyofsb.org ; Gregg Hart, Vice Chair,Phone: (805) 568-2191 .E-mail: ghart@countyofsb.org; Joan Hartmann, Phone: (805) 568-2192 ,Solvang: (805) 686-5095 ,E-mail: jhartmann@countyofsb.org ; Peter Adam, Lompoc: (805) 737-7700 ,Santa Maria: (805) 346-8407 , E-mail: peter.adam@countyofsb.org ; Steve Lavagnino, Chair-Santa Maria: (805) 346-8400 , E-mail: steve.lavagnino@countyofsb.org .

pstarSR Feb 19, 2019 07:47 AM
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I like animals, haved had many pets over the years. dogs, cats, birds, mice, snakes, etc. but I cant stand how people abuse the service animal thing, I cant stand when pet owners force their pet on you when you are in an area where NO pets should be. I understand some pets can handle this, some can actually be perfectly fine. but thats not why we have rules, because of the ones that are fine. We have the rules because some are NOT fine, NOT clean, NOT reasonable.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 06:17 AM
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TYPHUS. Pasadena CA reported epidemic levels of typhus fever in 2018 when 20 Pasadena residents were confirmed to have typhus fever, "We encourage pet owners to practice safe flea control.” Pasadena Public Health Department. In Oct. 2018, there were 57 cases of flea-borne typhus in L.A. County. In S.B. you don’t know if an animal has just come off a hike in the mountains and is now sitting next to you, your children, anyone with autoimmune illness, your own pet. The homeless with their dogs have every "right" to bring dogs into restaurants. It takes an instant for a flea to jump off an animal onto a human or another dog. COTTAGE HOSPITAL, are you listening?

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 05:57 AM
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I have a very sweet and friendly pet white rat, Siegfried. Since food/restaurant patios are pet friendly, I'm going to take my rat with me today for lunch. It's my pet, and emotional support, and the restaurant can't discriminate against me, or my pet. The dogs won't mind. Like dogs and cats, rats can be the source of disease (so, I'm going to take it to Cottage Hospital today for letting people pet/touch it), "Transfer occurs when fleas from the rats bite human beings. Fleas transported on rats are considered responsible for this plague during the Middle Ages, which killed millions. From the transmission of bubonic plague to typhus and hantavirus, rat infestations can prove harmful to human health." I love my rat and I insist you look the other way, just like dog owners.

a-1558616884 Feb 19, 2019 05:47 AM
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Van Do-Reynoso, MPH, PhD, Director Public Health Department S.B. County Public Health Dept., 300 San Antonio Rd., S.B. CA 93110. Telephone: (805) 681-5102. Her mission: https://www.countyofsb.org/phd/admin/director.sbc . or --- Environmental Health Services: 225 Camino del Remedio, Santa Barbara, CA 93110 Telephone 805-681-4900 . Email: phdehsweb@sbcphd.org . https://www.countyofsb.org/phd/ehs/cal-retail-food-code.sbc

a-1558616884 Feb 18, 2019 10:45 PM
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I thought I was the only one who was getting annoyed at the explosion of entitled dog owners bringing their dogs everywhere. I am feeling a bit better now that I have seen I am not the only one. My biggest peeve with dogs these days is dog owners letting their dogs run loose on every trail in our area. No concept that wildlife has a right not to be terrorized in this way. (Not to mention that hikers have a right not to be terrorized in this way.)

Red Creek Feb 19, 2019 09:04 AM
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Not to mention the poop and urine that sticks to our shoes.

sbpajuco108 Feb 18, 2019 09:30 PM
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You ever been to Mesa Cafe there’s always Dogs there but outside on the patio and Creekside restaurant/bar very dog friendly I really don’t care as long as there not bothering me or barking

a-1558616884 Feb 18, 2019 09:27 PM
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psssss......it's not a secret anymore. Dog owners have gone too far. The end.

LocalMatt Feb 18, 2019 09:19 PM
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I'd rather have lunch with my dog in a dog friendly patio than most humans. He doesnt drink alcohol and get loud and stupid. He doesnt care where we go. He enjoys everyone no matter their political views. He is happy to eat out of a bowl, then stare at me while I eat my food on a plate. He might lick you to death if you choose. Otherwise I keep him tight to my side. This might be a once a month thing. Coffee patio, lunch dog friendly patio.

a-1558616884 Feb 18, 2019 09:14 PM
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WINTER, your comment proves alot of points here. Instead of taking into account how majority of posters on here feel about dogs in restaurants and stores, you want to turn it on them, that they are angry or need a dog or something. No, it's not us, it's you, bringing your dog places where people don't want them.

a-1558616884 Feb 18, 2019 08:17 PM
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WINTER, I like dogs. But do all of us a favor and leave your dog at home with his bowl of food when you go out to eat around humans.

LocalMatt Feb 18, 2019 08:13 PM
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A cat is very different from a dog. Ive yet to see a cat on a leash. If you own a dog you know its basically a part of your family and some would say if they dont have children that the dog is their child. Dog friendly patios are great! Sometimes I want to be only with my wife. But other times it's nice to have your best buddy with you. Owning a big labrador, I would be surprised if I got a single negative thing said. But I would never take him inside a restaurant or a store besides a pet shop. Designated pet popular patios only.

a-1558616884 Feb 18, 2019 09:13 PM
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I've had cats who walked on leashes and it's not uncommon plus, you can carry them in a crate which is much more hygenic than a dog on a leash so let's all start bringing our cats with us, they deserve some time out too, and it's nice having our best friends with us (i.e. our cats).

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