Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

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By Anna Marie Gott

Santa Barbara has a growing homeless problem of that there IS no doubt. Tourists, downtown business people and residents have all complained about the issue which continues to grow in both size and scope. The real question is how does the City address the issue and is "springing" a homeless trailer park on residents without notice the right way to conduct business?  This is a 3 year experiment that includes 40 trailers being parked adjacent to a neighborhood to house 40 hardcore homeless individuals and nearby residents of the proposed location were not consulted. This left their possible concerns intentionally disregarded and unaddressed while the City pushed ahead with a Grant Funding Application that would place a homeless trailer camp in their neighborhood for 3 years.

Noticing a simple Grant Funding Application on the City Council's Agenda rather than a Grant Funding Application that includes a 40 unit Homeless Trailer Park at Castillo and Carrillo seems designed to bury the information to ensure that residents won't voice their opinions. The Staff report even failed to mention anything about the homeless trailer camp or how long it would be in operation. It simply mentioned "Development of Bridge Housings" which is as clear as mud. The fact of the matter is that the City is planing to house 40 hardened mentally ill and addicted homeless individuals on rotating basis for 3 years adjacent to a residential neighborhood and they decided to limit the information provided to the public and leave neighbors out of the decision making process.

I believe that we make the best decisions when we have the most information and there IS a healthy dialog. I also  believe that when the City fails to notify and allow comments that it perpetuates the belief that many residents have that the City Staff and Council do not care what they think nor do they care to listen.

The City needs input from residents before the grant application is turned in and residents need to be apart of the conversation and the decision making process. But with a due date of 11/16 to apply for the grant the ONLY opportunity residents seem to have is on Tuesday (11/13/18) at City Council UNLESS residents demand a Special Emergency Meeting which is an option residents can advocate for.
 
If you are concerned about this plan and the lack of dialog or notice given to residents most affected I urge you to attend the meeting or send an email to the City Council on this topic.  If they don't hear from you the location won't be changed, a Special Emergency Meeting won't be had and the way the City notices things like this won't change. So, I urge you to attend the meeting or write a email expressing your thoughts.
 
City Council Meeting:
      735 Anacapa, 2nd Fl
      Tuesday @2:00PM
 
Email Comments/Concerns:
 
Read the City's Plan:
      https://tinyurl.com/SBHomelessTrailerCamp - Staff PowerPoint

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PitMix Nov 13, 2018 12:54 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Good luck with that. The homeless advocates would take millions from the City if they tried to pass laws penalizing homelessness. They are fierce opponents and have fought the City many times.

Roger Nov 13, 2018 11:46 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

"Beggars cannot be Choosers." A proverb from John Heywoods book of proverbs from 1562....Tell Pat Robertson that net worth 100 Million dollars and all those other rich preachers that guilt the poor for money...

Resident Nov 13, 2018 11:11 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Three thoughts about this: 1. The Commuter Parking Lot being proposed for this vagrant camp is also one of the two finalist locations being touted by the City as the location of the new Police Station. Obviously it cannot serve both uses but the City is floating both use for it. Is this another shell game by the City? 2. Carrillo Street is the gateway to downtown Santa Barbara from the 101. Is a vagrant camp what we really want to showcase to visitors and tourists coming into town? 3. Grant funds are overused by the City, and all bureaucratic entities, to fund projects that they can't fund from our own funding sources. But "grants" are not free money although the staff treats them as such. Grants are simply funds that have been taken from taxpayers all over the state or country by force (i.e. mandatory taxes) that then have a small portion doled back to us - after the well-paid staffs/bureaucrats have been paid - in the form of these "free money grants. I wonder when or if we taxpayers/citizens will wake up.

a-1544543136 Nov 14, 2018 02:47 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Applaud the Council majority for its statement as demanded by electorate: The new Carrillo Tiny House Village visually communicates that SB welcomes and provides for any homeless. Only Reps Dominquez and Rowse are concerned about economic sustainability, workers, liveability, or our City’s future.

a-1544543136 Nov 14, 2018 02:47 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Applaud the Council majority for its statement as demanded by electorate: The new Carrillo Tiny House Village visually communicates that SB welcomes and provides for any homeless. Only Reps Dominquez and Rowse are concerned about economic sustainability, workers, liveability, or our City’s future.

a-1544543136 Nov 13, 2018 05:08 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Roger - that may well be true IF they were actually paying taxes. And, of course, nobody has said anything about whether they were citizens or not.

a-1544543136 Nov 13, 2018 01:32 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

They've already decided that the Castillo/Carrillo lot is not suitable for the main Police Station, due to limited access (one-way street, no other street frontages).

a-1544543136 Nov 13, 2018 01:26 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

RESIDEMT - Exactly on point 2. Why on Earth would they propose putting what will definitely be an eyesore as the welcoming sight to visitors coming into town off the 101 to Carillo? It's awful! Can you imagine driving past that, and then going downtown and inhaling the hot stink of State Street? Why would ANYONE want to come back? The City doesn't seem to care about the impressions that are made on tourists.

Ahchooo Nov 13, 2018 10:28 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

If the city follows through as they intend, this could be a really big help. According to Noozhawk, there will be "a resident on-site manager, supportive services, 24-hour security and a Police Department work station." It won't be a big free-for-all campground that attracts out-of-towners. I'm concerned about costs, but they (we) did receive a grant.

a-1544543136 Nov 14, 2018 02:25 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Grant money is from taxpayers. Council told cost to Cost is $2500 a month per homeless person or $5000 for two. After taxes, how many workers can afford to pay $2500pp for housing? How many couples pay $5000 a mo Th for housing?

letmego Nov 13, 2018 10:21 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Tricky thing this, with no easy answer. The homeless aren't a uniform group. How do you take care of the people who need help without inviting others to come into town and take advantage? I really don't think anyone should be homeless - even if for no other reasons than public health. Some folks just cannot afford rent. Some choose to live in a vehicle to save money (I've known many people to do that - though several of them paid space rent to park in a driveway or other area). However, you really can't blame home owners for not wanting to have someone who is living in a van parked in front of their house.

letmego Nov 13, 2018 01:24 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

What about those who don't choose it? Some people just end up homeless. If you cannot afford a home of any kind, it doesn't matter where you "live" (in some sense). Because you don't have a roof. If you can't afford a roof, would you rather not have a roof in SB or in Iowa?

Factotum Nov 13, 2018 10:28 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Do people who choose to be "homeless" get to demand where they want to live at someone else's expense? Surely you have heard a very common and appropriate saying: beggars can't be choosers.

ZeroHawk Nov 13, 2018 09:20 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

after reading a few of these comments, it makes me think this city is filled with a bunch of elites that look down their noses on those with less than they have. yes, people are homeless and resort to living in a trailer. Yes people also end up on the street and sleep on the beach, yes there are people sleeping under bridges, while you and your family are snug in your bed and heater blasting warm air. Instead of complaining, why not try to help? Get involved locally, donate your time at the soup kitchen or Salvation army. I have, and do so every year. I see so many of you bitching and whining about people down on their luck. Sure there are some that are there by choice...maybe. Alot of them are alcoholics that need help, war vets with PTSD, mentally disturbed people wiht no medical or mental health care. So many abandoned and vacant homes in the good ol' USA, but our national homelessness is depressing....so again, i ask, why does it bother you that others have to resort to living in vehicles, park benches, beaches, and under bridges. go offer them help instead of getting online and complaining to an audience that doesn't care.

a-1544543136 Nov 14, 2018 02:53 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

You come across as self-righteous. People are concerned about homeless. How best to stretch dollars to position them to help pay, or at least contribute-something, to their cost to be alive. What ever happened to the former Work Inc program? It helped many.

PitMix Nov 13, 2018 12:57 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Forget the local solutions. This is a NATIONAL problem, and should be addressed NATIONALLY. It is crazy to make SB try to solve a problem that they didn't create. Salud Carbajal should have a list, and this issue should be pretty close to the top of the list.

Roger Nov 13, 2018 11:22 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Actually it was Reagan who closed the institutions my Uncle used to work for him don't blame the ACLU they are good people though I don't always agree with them...There are not that many good people around anymore because they are afraid of idiots.

Factotum Nov 13, 2018 10:33 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Drop the lies about Reagan, it was the ACLU who closed down the state care institutions. Now tells us what happened to the billions of dollars tax payers voted on when they passed the Mental Health Services Act a decade ago, that was intended to make up for the ACLU closure of the state care institutions.

Factotum Nov 13, 2018 10:29 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Why encourage people to stay here to stay here instead of forcing them to move on to locations far more suitable to their skills sets and motivation? Nope, no more enabling poor life style choices.

Roger Nov 13, 2018 10:10 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Yes these people SHOULD seek help but many do not know what SHOULD means many are to far gone with brain damage some need to be led. Do any of you know who actually does that in Santa Barbara? There is actually a group of people that actually care enough to go out there and help bring people who are too far gone in....The Santa Barbara Police Department that's who they are not the only ones some police officers do it in their off time and use their own money to help..Zero Hawk is right as far as SHOULD Maybe you SHOULD tell a service person who suffers with PTSD what they SHOULD do to their face, and as far as Santa Barbara doing SO MUCH FOR THE HOMELESS through your tax money the HOMELESS really don't see that money it's filtered through paid saleries and Pay Offs too mostly what the Homeless gets is what volunteers give them. That is not your problem because you don't care....

all knowing Nov 13, 2018 09:58 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

ZEROHAWK .......please show us your confirmation receipt of " The Homeless " sleeping in your spare bedrooms.......take pictures with your iPhone and post them to this website.......then, and only then, will you have any credibility as it regards to the " homeless problem" in SB

a-1544543136 Nov 13, 2018 09:39 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Your comments about homeless services are absolutely untrue. Gawd knows where such lies originate but they are happily repeated by people like you who have so much hate toward the less fortunate. Every society has a population that needs help. SB is no different. And SB is not even high on the list of the homeless as a part of the whole. We simply have people who are jealous and bitter and unwilling to share anything.

jdoggydogg Nov 13, 2018 09:33 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

per your comment: Alcoholics, if so, should seek proper treatment and rehabilitation in/with that particular illness so said individuals may clean up and reenter society as a functioning and contributing individual. Second, PTSD and vets who suffer from such should seek rehabilitation through the VA and/or who the individual served for. This type of rehab should be specific to the trauma induced allowing said individual to rehabilitate and enter society in a functioning and contributing way. Thirdly, Metal Health and Mental Health Care for the population at large was abolished under Reagan. Perhaps it's time for the government to reestablish some of theses programs. A temporary, 3 year tiny house parking lot rehab center WILL NOT take care of the larger problem that is really so mounting and huge is should be a Nationally discussed, addressed and remedied problem for all who need help, not some. At its core, this is a cash grab for Santa Barbara. Money hanging from tree will be grabbeth. What programs are currently under way in Santa Barbara, funded by Santa Barbara that are actually yielding any positive results. Any??

CoastWatch Nov 13, 2018 09:32 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Hey ZEROHAWK-The City of Santa Barbara does more and spends more on "Homeless Inc." than ANY City of its size in the United States. Every year for at least the past twenty years, the City writes a taxpayer check, for a MILLION DOLLARS, this year it was even more... There are tons of SB County and State employees here in Santa Barbara County that cater to the "homeless" that come here from all over the U.S. We have beds, showers,3 hots a day, churches that enable and support the street vagrants. There are dozens of programs that address Alcohol and Drug Abuse(ers). There is a County Medical and Psyche Clinic... There is the Santa Barbara Housing Authority that will get you an apartment if you qualify as a "chronic homeless" individual- As a matter of fact, nearly 20% of all housing units in the City of Santa Barbara are subsidized- So spare us your "woo is me", "We are a selfish community" diatribe...

a-1544543136 Nov 13, 2018 09:27 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Zerohawk - you clearly have only read a few comments. I only object to the "teacher" choosing to live in their car in order to save money and then complaining that the laws are unfair...

BigDD Nov 13, 2018 08:42 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

The good news is that so many of us care so much about this seemingly intractable problem. But, do we also really believe that providing housing (temporary or permanent) and supportive services and hygiene facilities will solve the problem? I think not. Just because homeless people in our city now have somewhere to sleep and be safe, does NOT also mean that they will stay 24/7 in their temporary shelter/home. Do we the "home-full" stay inside all day and night? I predict that we will continue to have the same vexing problems of loitering, panhandling, verbal harassment and worse that we suffer now by a minority of the homeless. Just because someone has somewhere safe and clean to sleep at night is not going to necessarily change their street behavior during the day. If the person does not have a job or other involvements to keep occupied, the only difference I can foresee is that the people who cause the problems on on the streets now will be clean and well fed, but no less aimless. And, of course there's the "magnet" factor to such a plan ...

a-1544543136 Nov 13, 2018 09:25 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

I worked for gov't for fewer than 8 years. I don't support items because the useless union I was once a part of supports them! I do support Housing First policies because so far, and recently, it has proved to be most helpful, according to news and studies I have read, and results that have been reported. Yes, I have a soft heart. Attack me for that.

Factotum Nov 13, 2018 10:37 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Public sector unions support this housing scheme because it requires hiring at least 5 full time social service workers to monitor each vagrant who has been given independent housing, instead of an institutional setting. Follow the money and it always leads to creation of more government union employee jobs, more union dues paid to highly political union bosses. and more drain on our tax dollars. Public sector unions are driving all the arguments here - the shaming and scolding just so they can get their fingers in even more public trough pies.

NostraChumash Nov 13, 2018 08:35 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

As I say each time this topic is opened.. There is a written plan just sitting here, waiting to be implemented. The FACT that I've sat on it for 5yrs now, only proves that NO-ONE is willing to act upon the issue..just complain & waste money.

rwelsh Nov 13, 2018 08:34 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Funny. I was just staring at that space the other day wondering its exact purpose and naively thinking that Santa Barbara has generously provided such a nice shady carpooling parking area for commuters or shoppers. But then I thought... no, SB is so whorish over income from every square inch of property that it will soon be turned into income... I thought probably high density housing to further congest that horrible dual intersection on Carrillo going under the freeway. That's about the intelligence level of our city planners these days. Oh, but grant funding is so much better!! Who cares how the money comes in! (Tell me again how that cracker jax eyesore housing development by Milpas was allowed to be half built before anybody really knew about it?? Never mind. I know.)

Crystalandmaui Nov 13, 2018 08:27 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

I do agree thier needs to be a place like this provided. If places are not provided they will sleep on the streets and put tents this is legal and that will be much worse. Yes outside of the main city would be great, if possible. A camp ground with bathrooms and showers. Or as mentioned above a apartment. Not all people homeless are bad people they don’t have the means to pay high rents or SSI isn’t enough. The rents are ridiculous, a lot of them do have mental problems that have prohibited them from good jobs or to be better educated, some can’t read, a lot are schizophrenic, bipolar, are under the age of 65 and can’t get Medicare , so they can’t go to a nursing home, or pay for mental help, because of mental facilities being shut down due to very very bad help from the people working at them, they have been closed down. And guess what people that have those illnesses don’t think they do. But you don’t want what LA has provided aka skid row to happen here either. So the city providing a area is in need. . Yes it will have to be well maintained or you will get drug addicts to move in and take over. Hopefully this is well thought out and controlled, something has to done.

El Barbareno Nov 13, 2018 08:07 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Put them in the City Hall parking lot. The City Hall employees don't need that parking lot anyway. Aren't they following the city ideal for everyone else and walking, riding bikes and taking the bus?

SBWalkers Nov 13, 2018 07:59 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Awww, how nice. Put a homeless trailer park so close to our downtown. As if there aren't enough problems already happening downtown (storefront closings). Someone even suggested converting the old Macy's to a shelter. Don't you just love our city's thoughtfulness in providing shelter to the homeless. WTH are they doing? I understand helping the homeless but give me a break. Is anybody using their brains? - why don't these people who are suggesting these locations suggest they put the shelters on the blocks where they live.

Roger Nov 13, 2018 06:28 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Not all of the people in RV's are from out of town either some were born right here in Santa Barbara but that won't make a difference to those who hate them because they are poor or disabled they will find another reason to hate them. Just like living here working for the wealthy giving your life to them you get hurt your just a piece of shit to throw away.

yacht rocked Nov 13, 2018 06:25 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

How about a community kitchen, bathrooms, showers, classrooms and transitional housing in Sears La Cumbra Plaza, surrounded by a trailer park? Mubwahaha.

Factotum Nov 12, 2018 10:02 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Rather than stupidly going it alone on their interpretation of the recenet "Boise Decision", the city needs to meet with all the surrounding communities and develop a joint strategy. No way should SB be yet again the willing and sole dumping ground regionally. We do no more and no less than all the other surrounding communities. What is Montecito, Hope Ranch, Goleta, Carpinteria, Ventura, Solvang, Lompoc, Buellton and Santa Maria doing - and we do exactly what they are doing, We sink or swim together; but we do NOT become another sole magnet for vagrancy as we have allowed for too long in the past. If Coast Village Road or Las Palmas Drive is not full of street squatters, then neither are we.

Factotum Nov 12, 2018 09:46 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

The Ninth District Circuit Court decisions was an unconstitutional unfunded mandate. No community can be required to provide "shelter" to an unlimited number of persons, simply because they choose to arrive in that community. Or else, that community has to allow them to sleep and camp out on the streets. Get real. This is a case that is ripe for further appeal. And even more reason the Ninth Circuit needs to be gutted and reconstituted. No community can be asked to shoulder this unlimited shelter burden; purely on the demand of any person who chooses to exploit it. That is not how our country works.

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