Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

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By Anna Marie Gott

Santa Barbara has a growing homeless problem of that there IS no doubt. Tourists, downtown business people and residents have all complained about the issue which continues to grow in both size and scope. The real question is how does the City address the issue and is "springing" a homeless trailer park on residents without notice the right way to conduct business?  This is a 3 year experiment that includes 40 trailers being parked adjacent to a neighborhood to house 40 hardcore homeless individuals and nearby residents of the proposed location were not consulted. This left their possible concerns intentionally disregarded and unaddressed while the City pushed ahead with a Grant Funding Application that would place a homeless trailer camp in their neighborhood for 3 years.

Noticing a simple Grant Funding Application on the City Council's Agenda rather than a Grant Funding Application that includes a 40 unit Homeless Trailer Park at Castillo and Carrillo seems designed to bury the information to ensure that residents won't voice their opinions. The Staff report even failed to mention anything about the homeless trailer camp or how long it would be in operation. It simply mentioned "Development of Bridge Housings" which is as clear as mud. The fact of the matter is that the City is planing to house 40 hardened mentally ill and addicted homeless individuals on rotating basis for 3 years adjacent to a residential neighborhood and they decided to limit the information provided to the public and leave neighbors out of the decision making process.

I believe that we make the best decisions when we have the most information and there IS a healthy dialog. I also  believe that when the City fails to notify and allow comments that it perpetuates the belief that many residents have that the City Staff and Council do not care what they think nor do they care to listen.

The City needs input from residents before the grant application is turned in and residents need to be apart of the conversation and the decision making process. But with a due date of 11/16 to apply for the grant the ONLY opportunity residents seem to have is on Tuesday (11/13/18) at City Council UNLESS residents demand a Special Emergency Meeting which is an option residents can advocate for.
 
If you are concerned about this plan and the lack of dialog or notice given to residents most affected I urge you to attend the meeting or send an email to the City Council on this topic.  If they don't hear from you the location won't be changed, a Special Emergency Meeting won't be had and the way the City notices things like this won't change. So, I urge you to attend the meeting or write a email expressing your thoughts.
 
City Council Meeting:
      735 Anacapa, 2nd Fl
      Tuesday @2:00PM
 
Email Comments/Concerns:
 
Read the City's Plan:
      https://tinyurl.com/SBHomelessTrailerCamp - Staff PowerPoint

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a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 07:23 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

"This is a 3 year experiment... ". Yeah, right. Once they get established there will be no way to get them out. This will be like a cancer in the middle of the city, ever growing.

Factotum Nov 13, 2018 10:41 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

The cost is five support people on the job 24 hours a day for each homeless person. How does this reduce costs. It simply increases more government union members, you know "working families" and diverts more tax funding from infrasctructure and into more public employee pensions, perks and compensation packages. While they baby-sit vagrants one by one, instead of in a far more cost-effective institutional setting.

Ahchooo Nov 13, 2018 09:42 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

I don't have the qualifications to categorize homeless individuals, and of course people don't fit into neat "classes." But our local law enforcement officers know who causes the most problems, and experienced social workers probably have a pretty good idea of who can best be helped by having a stable place to live. That's what I meant: certain individuals, not a class of people. Sorry for sounding classist.

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 08:31 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

ACHOO, I did not know there were different classes of homeless people. Can you describe them so I can recognize them by their class characteristics when I see them?

Ahchooo Nov 12, 2018 08:18 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

The Boise decision said that a city cannot ban sleeping in public if people have nowhere else to go. So, basically, if the city doesn't provide enough shelter beds, they have to allow people to sleep on the streets. I suspect this proposal is driven more by the fact that certain homeless people suck up an inordinate amount of police time, emergency room time, etc. If they can get into stable housing, they cost less in the long run, and cause less problems for the city. This is only true for a specific class of homeless, but it is significant. I am very curious to know who will be chosen for a space in this facility, and how those decisions will be made.

forrealnews Nov 12, 2018 06:42 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

The first sentence is the equivalent of “I’m not racist but...” then you know what’s quick to follow. Anna if we don’t do this, where is your bodiless heart going to live?

forrealnews Nov 12, 2018 07:09 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Looked up the term “hardcore homeless” it said “not a real term and no news outlet should publish an article by someone who makes up something so dumb”. Anna where is your poor heart going to live if we don’t allow this to happen? The first sentence of this article was the equivalent of, “I’m not racist but...” then followed by the obvious.

a-1544546182 Nov 13, 2018 05:13 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Factorum - What makes you think that the deal is dead? City staff appear to be trying to make this happen without the citizens knowing about it.

Factotum Nov 12, 2018 03:27 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Fresno tried creating a community of garden sheds on the edge of town to house vagrants - total failure. Ruined down town Fresno - became a no go zone.

Ahchooo Nov 12, 2018 01:26 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

It looks like this is a version of a shelter, with shared toilet and shower facilities, and meals provided by a nonprofit agency. They picture a nice looking "tiny house" version of a trailer, but it is unclear if those will be provided, or if people will bring their own shabby vehicles to live in. If they carefully screen the residents, and kick out anyone who can't be peaceful and clean, it could be a good option. It's not the most efficient, space-wise, but I assume there is no money for, nor interest in building a multi-story apartment building instead (which would house many more people). I wonder how they will choose who gets to live there. I'm torn about this--there is a great need for spaces like this, but, "if you build it, they will come." There is no end to the number of people who want or need a place like this.

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 01:21 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

So are they going to kick people out of the bushes, parks, and beaches? Or, is this meant to welcome even more transients into the city? How is allowing people to live in vehicles in "downtown" Santa Barbara even an acceptable option for anyone. If I can go at least one day without seeing a vagrant trash, urinate on, harass, frighten, and generally stain our community I might have more sympathy.

Roger Nov 12, 2018 01:14 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Funny I know someone who lived in a van for years in Santa Barbara got all the help he could suck up bought a home in Santa Barbara and now talks smack about poor people , homeless, and handicapped on these pages...Ha,ha,ha What a Bozo! As far as this parking lot I would like to hear what the Chief of Police and the Fire Departments think...El Carrillo is right around the corner and I cannot remember hearing any major issues there. I think a trailer park is a good idea but that might not be the right place for it.

mp805 Nov 12, 2018 12:11 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Had no idea this was in the works but after reading the pdf links its quite shocking to say the least. Can't make the meeting but sent an email of my concerns. Thankyou for making us aware of this Anna.

Yeti Nov 12, 2018 11:52 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Doesn't city hall or the police department have a parking lot that'll hold 40 large vehicles? Let them play hall monitor all night and clean up the messes. Government employees appear to live on another planet far away from reality. The day that they allow this circus to be in THEIR front yard is the day that they can wish the same on others. Anyone on this page that is professing that it is ok to park 40 trailers for the mentally ill and addicted in a residential neighborhood, you can guarantee that NONE of them live there!

Factotum Nov 12, 2018 11:18 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

SBMC 30.185.280.7 - Mobile Home and RV Parks: Landscaping, Fencing, and Screening. a. Street Frontage. Street trees and parkway planting shall be installed and maintained in the right-of-way along the full width of the park property fronting on a street. b. Front Boundary. A six-foot wide landscaped buffer shall be provided along front boundaries of the mobilehome or permanent recreational vehicle park property, regardless of whether or not the property fronts a public street. An ornamental wall or fence may be erected in conjunction with the landscape buffer, but shall not take the place of the required buffer. The landscape buffer shall be reviewed and approved by the appropriate Design Review body. c. Side and Rear Boundaries. Side and rear boundaries of a mobilehome or permanent recreational vehicle park shall be hidden from view with a six-foot high ornamental wall, fence or landscape planting. The Planning Commission may reduce or waive this requirement upon finding it is unreasonable or unnecessary to require a wall, fence or landscape planting due to the nature of the existing topography or other existing conditions that might render such wall, fence or screen ineffective.

CoastWatch Nov 12, 2018 10:38 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

There is a distinction between the term "Homeless", who BTW get the help they need and "VAGRANTS" who come from all over the U.S. to vacation in Santa Barbara. They know the community accepts their behaviors and rewards it. It's known all over the U.S.- That's why the Amtrak and Greyhound bus gets one-way riders from other Cities across the U.S. who want to get rid of their "Chronic Homeless" or the worst of the worst Vagrants.... It's unfortunate that the Politically Correct Speech Police have used the word "Homeless" to describe the locals who may be experiencing homelessness and the VAGRANTS who refuse drug / alcohol help and treatment as they prefer their outdoor lifestyle.

SantaBarbaraObserver Nov 13, 2018 07:10 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

The issue is that YOU feel that YOU are special and deserve special treatment. It has NOTHING to do with YOU or your choices. It has to do with the basis for a community/society. Laws. Dont be selfish, the laws are NOT about YOU, they're about the whole. You'd think a teacher would know this... Maybe get yourself onto a boat down at the harbor? You can save money and live the nomadic and stinky life without anyone bothering you in the middle of the night...

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 07:14 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

The rest of us are paying property taxes - directly or through the rent - that support your job. No, skirting taxes (so the rest of us pay more) is NOT OK with most people. I certainly hope that you never teach my kids.

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 02:43 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

X01660 - simply sleeping in a car is not what is so "reviled and ostracized by our community," it's the issues that go along with allowing people to sleep/live in their vehicles on public streets. It shouldn't be that surprising. Again though, if you are choosing to live like this, while you're making enough $$ to rent a studio/room, then you choose to accept the laws that govern your choice in lifestyle. If you don't like, then rent or buy like everyone else.

x01660 Nov 12, 2018 02:30 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

I go up in the mountains because I have to to obey the laws as currently written. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. I don't understand why the simple act of sleeping in a car is so reviled and ostracized by our community. I'm not in one place all day, dumping waste, harassing neighbors, etc. I'm just sleeping. But even that is too much for some people and it's sad.

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 01:52 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

X01660 - Yes, the street is public, and that's exactly why you are not allowed to take up residence on it with your car. If you drive into the mountains or park on county land to sleep, then why are you complaining about what people think/say/do about you parking on neighborhood streets at night? Finally, you are welcome to live here, but if you choose to live in a van, don't expect everyone to be ok with it. You seem to be able to afford to rent a studio at least, yet you insist on living in a van and complaining that no one wants you sleeping on the streets.

x01660 Nov 12, 2018 01:37 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Last time I checked, the street was public property. And I do abide by rules. Which is why I chose a minivan and not an RV (length requirement), and why I drive up in the mountains or park on county land where I can sleep legally. But even still, I guess my van on the street for 5 hours at night is too much of a blight for our neighborhoods. Wow. I really feel welcome here in town by it's welcoming residents.... :\

CoastWatch Nov 12, 2018 01:11 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

So you feel ENTITLED to park you vehicle and sleep in it where ever you want...? Really? And you say you teach children...? WOW! How about we take you back to where your parents live and have a person in a van or R.V. park in front of THEIR house...? See how YOUR parents would feel about that... Maybe you could ask the parents of the kids you profess to "teach" and ask if you could park in front of THEIR house...since you teach their kids and all... Unbelievable.

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 12:45 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

X01660 - If you're a teacher and work 2 jobs, you should be able to afford at least a studio. If you choose to live in your car to save money, then you must also obey the rules re: overnight parking, etc. No one is judging your decision, but you can't expect society to adapt to you simply because you choose to live an "alternative lifestyle."

x01660 Nov 12, 2018 12:36 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

I agree with this; but there is a third category of "homeless" people; those who work hard but choose to be homeless; I work 70 hours a week at two jobs, make ok money, and still choose to live in my van. It saves a huge cost, lets me get ahead in terms of finances (no debt here), and is just a minor inconviencence. Sure you gotta time bathroom breaks and go to the gym to shower, but its also $1500+/mo in my pocket. I just wish the city had resources for people like me who contribute to our community (I teach your children), but chose to live an alternate living lifestyle. Simple stuff, like being able to park a minivan on the street and sleep in it without being harassed by the police, or complained about by NIMBYs who can't engage in a little empathy in understanding that not everyone is living the dream and owns a home....

Factotum Nov 12, 2018 10:44 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Treatment-resistant addicts is an equally correct term. No one is forcing anyone to use the misleading term "homeless". Just correct it whenever or where ever you see it used. We are all "homeless" when we first arrive in this city. It is what takes place after that initial "homeless" arrival that defines the current issues. Some have resources to provide their own shelter, while others simply demand others provide this for them.

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 10:36 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

So, the homeless would be allowed to camp presumably in that parking lot? I suppose that's a nice idea, but I really think it will end up being overrun by those young gutter punks who CHOOSE to be homeless. How many mentally ill homeless will be helped by this? If we need to help anyone, it's the mentally ill and those who are disabled and unable to work. I'd hate to see a good-intentioned plan, get mucked up by lazy "urban travelers."

Ehdat Nov 12, 2018 10:06 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Wow, a NIMBY response from someone that doesn't represent the "M" in the acronym. I guess this person is in support of keeping the homeless; homeless. I wonder how all the people living in the adjacent creek feel about the change to their neighborhood?

a-1544546182 Nov 12, 2018 10:43 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

I read this as the city owned commuter parking lot. I wonder how the commuters will feel about being displaced. How much did we the city pay for that lot in the first place. "Mature trees and existing landscaping help screen the property from the street and freeway". No, the map is deceptive, only the aerial view will be screened. Drive by this lot, or check the Google street view. Filled with this these trailers, this project is going to stand out like a sore thumb from the street. Do we really care if people can see it from 101? How meetings are hidden from the public borders on malfeasance. Over and over the city has not put items on the agenda so they can't be discussed or changed the language so the public did realize what they were talking about. How many closed to public does the city have. They do have them. I've been at city hall when signs were posted, meeting closed to public. $6,018,954 is the cost over three years. Ground rent payments will cover the lost income from commuter parking. The people being housed were not paying rent on the street. Where is this rent coming from. Guess they are picking our pockets for that too.

tagdes Nov 12, 2018 12:09 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

I'd guess it's the one with 40 parking spaces which is also the one that the city owns so they couldn't be charged with aiding and abetting trespassing... or more succinctly the commuter lot.

CoastWatch Nov 12, 2018 09:40 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Surprising... Not really. Tell the "Homeless Coordinator from Santa Barbara County who accepted the 9.2 Million Taxpayer dollars from Gov. Moonbeam Brown , "THANKS". You voters have yourselves to THANK as well- No sympathy here.

d8vanilla Nov 12, 2018 09:39 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

Typical..... And what about the decreased value of the surrounding houses? And, the increased crime in the area. Its already been proven, that the more the City offers to the homeless, the more homeless will come to this City. We could, and SHOULD learn by past experiences, and take a hard look at what other cities have experienced.... like Los Angeles & San Francisco......

jdoggydogg Nov 12, 2018 06:30 PM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

HASB is an ever growing monster that needs to stop. Grant after grant to grow, they have NO other option but to continually beg for more to continue to grow and the maintenance crews for HACSB are some of the laziest i've ever witnessed. And, most of them live down south and aren't in SB to see the horror.

Factotum Nov 12, 2018 10:30 AM
Homeless Trailer Park on Castillo and Carrillo

City owns most of the surrounding housing next to this lot - they vote for them. Las Fuentes, Castillo Cottages and the West Carrillo half-way house. This is a company town on this particular corner. One more power grab by SBHA - let the shaming and scolding of the public begin. Selling out the city for "free government money" has been the name of the game for years. All government grant money comes with tenacious strings attached. One more way the city makes the rest of us pay for their greed and photo-op virtue polishing.

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