Edison's Plan to De-Energize

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Southern California Edison will be turning off resident's power under certain circumstances.  Below is the letter from Edison received on August 8th. They are announcing a meeting tonight (Wednesday, Aug 15) from 6:30pm to 8:30pm, at Earl Warren Showgrounds. 

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simplynotmyaddress Aug 17, 2018 08:30 PM
Edison's Plan to De-Energize

You people are funny (read: sad). There was a time when we fended for ourselves during events and helped out neighbors if needed. We dealt with problems and assisted any way we could. We were a close knit small town community. Now everyone wants to sue Edison because a wind event (read: act of God) caused lines to arc resulting in a wildfire where humans over-populated and under-prepared. OF COURSE Edison will shut the power off. Self preservation. Everyone wants to sue the county because they didn't get notified on their cell phone that there was a raging wildfire and a million firetrucks right outside their front door and they didn't know because they were too busy tweeting about the DVD they were watching. Great. Now the county has to initiate MANDATORY extended evacuations for anyone in any risk assessment zone because people are too stupid to take personal responsibility for their own well being in their own environment. This entitled attitude and the idea that everybody owes you everything is a relatively new (15 years) SB mentality. We all know where and by who it originates. Thank you all for moving here but it's time to either quit complaining and act like adults, or move back to the protected environment from which you came. I'm sure any moving company will be happy to help you find your way southbound on 101. I'll drive if it helps move things along. We don't owe you anything, you not entitled to anything, and you are no more special than me or any of your neighbors. Suck it up. Buy batteries and water. Put down you iphone once in a while and look outside to see if there is a wildfire and firetrucks, or a mudslide, or an earthquake happening in your front yard. Facebook will wait. And think twice about suing everyone that you think owes you something. All it does is restrict everyone more than they were, and it's only the lawyers (out of town) who win (both sides). Regarding the Edison lawsuits... hope I get picked for jury duty.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 05:29 PM
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Some of these selfish comments are so disheartening. Having spent almost 3 months in southern India, where the power regularly goes off at random times during the afternoon for conservation, we are so lucky here. Here, SCE is trying to do something to not only protect its equipment, but protect citizens from a fire raging out of control due to electrical sparks during high winds and people are complaining about not having electricity for a bit until winds subside. Really. This is why third world country travel should be required to keep your citizenship. Grow up already.

a-1542519610 Aug 17, 2018 09:43 AM
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Using elderly "as pawns???" What is wrong with you? How can you be so adamantly opposed to the idea of not turning off power during high risk fire conditions that you would accuse those who want the power to stay on of fabricating or somehow falsifying their arguments by "using the elderly?" Seriously, that is disturbing.

sacjon Aug 17, 2018 09:33 AM
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It's selfish to want your 94 year old mother's power to not be cut off every time there is a risk of fire? I'm sorry, but I don't understand how being concerned for the elderly is in any way selfish.

a-1542519610 Aug 17, 2018 09:22 AM
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How is Edison, maybe in rare circumstances, turning off power to protect from sparking and causing a wildfire, acting like a third world country? If anything, a third world country wouldn't bother to worry. I think the point is, so many are so spoiled and selfish they can't see past their own noses.

a-1542519610 Aug 17, 2018 09:23 AM
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What a clueless thing to say. You should travel more, you might be more grateful for what you have, and happy.

a-1542519610 Aug 17, 2018 09:25 AM
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Take a walk down State Street, you'd swear you were in a 3rd world country.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 05:32 PM
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And for those using "the elderly" as pawns in their complaining, what have you done for any elderly lately? Are you going to help any or have you offered to help during an outage? What are you doing for your parents to make sure they know what is going on and how to handle an outage? The elderly in India fared just fine.

TripleA Aug 16, 2018 03:11 PM
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Will Cox and/or SC Edison supply free batteries for the Cox modems so those who rely on their Cox phone service can make a 911 call during these outages? Many elderly do not and can not operate cell phones or smart phones and believe that the phone service through Cox is a "landline". Yikes.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 05:33 PM
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Maybe you should organize a community outreach to help these elderly you refer to. Have you done so?

Bob Wilson Aug 16, 2018 08:45 AM
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This policy will cause problems when first responders try to send alerts and warnings. Power outages will only exacerbate the emergency. Why not just maintain the power line infrastructure??? Trim vegetation along power easements. Create a proper defensible space. It's the same thing required of property owners.

Bob Wilson Aug 17, 2018 06:46 PM
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You do realize that your tone is condescending. Wind does not blow transformers out. Lines hitting un-trimmed vegetation cause the transformers to eventually blow.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 05:34 PM
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You do realize, during the THomas fire, winds blew transformers out and the sparks flew? Not much you can do about that re: trimming.

PitMix Aug 16, 2018 11:15 AM
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Really they are going to have to put the utilities underground in the wildland interface areas. You can never keep above ground power lines safe in these areas given the wind and accidents. Then they only have to worry about people digging without checking first.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 08:22 AM
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So SCE gets sued for the Thomas Fire - lots of people applauded that (though i'm not sure plaintiffs will be successful, for many reasons). They then take this action to mitigate their liability, considering it takes time to do any upgrades especially now that weather patterns have changed, etc. (plus, you should read up on the true requirements they must meet - they pretty much met them and Thomas Fire winds were a freak event that no one could have predicted). And people now complain. See how lawyers really mess up society? They create this type of thing. Can't have it both ways folks. Seriously, read up on what is required and the law and you will see that SCE is within their rights to do this. Maybe people should have been more understanding regarding the Thomas Fire freak events that caused things to blow up rather than looking for the deep pocket.

a-1542519610 Aug 17, 2018 11:24 AM
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"See how lawyers really mess up society?" No. The rest of your comment made sense, but not that.

pacoleta Aug 16, 2018 08:05 AM
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Sundowners and Red Flag Alerts were forecast recently for the Winchester Canyon area and Gaviota Coast. We didn’t get any of these winds. Are they going to shut off power due to forecasts or actual events?

larryq Aug 16, 2018 11:41 AM
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They will base their decisions on real time data. Like scanner reports.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 10:45 AM
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The power company has a detailed explanation of this on their website, with timelines. Maybe you should also attend the meeting.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 10:45 AM
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The power company has a detailed explanation of this on their website, with timelines. Maybe you should also attend the meeting.

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 08:37 AM
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Explain what "clearly?" Are you reading a different announcement? The one above says only that during "extreme fire conditions - such as high winds .... we MAY shut off power in high risk areas." (emphasis added). That's pretty open-ended. Where are the "timelines" you're talking about?

a-1542519610 Aug 16, 2018 08:19 AM
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If you read their announcement, you will answer your own question. They explain it all very clearly, with timelines of what to expect if there is a risk or forecast of extreme fire threat.

REDTOP Aug 16, 2018 07:59 AM
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This is the first time that I have seen this letter although I’ve been paying bills to Edison for 20 years. I would guess that customers who do not receive paper bills did not receive it.

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 10:35 PM
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Hmm, sounds dangerous in itself to me. I'm sure there is some extensive liability research behind this deci$ion. I can think of a few ways this could go very wrong.

Vee-Cee Aug 15, 2018 08:37 PM
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Edison is a monopoly. ATT just merged with Time Warner. Who let these giant companies run roughshod over us? We did. How? By not holding public officials directly accountable to us. Why do most Americans think that a visit to a ballot box every two to four years is all that's required of them? If voters put as much time in keeping their elected officials honest as they do in following professional sports, the Kardashians, and texting the latest gossip to their nearest and dearest, things might look different today.

pstarSR Aug 15, 2018 06:34 PM
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yea we got the letter also, this is what happens with SCE gets sued for fires ( rightfully so in some cases ). they are just finding the least liable course of action that saves the most money.

ednsb Aug 15, 2018 05:17 PM
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As a recent evacuatee of the Holiday fire the one thing that wasn't covered by my insurance was all the food I had to throw out. Over $350!.. I'm sorry but I don’t trust SCE not to over react and turn off power. So instead of doing the required maintenance on their lines , we will just turn off your power. Stinks of the influence of lawyers and bean counters in corporations where the bottom line is always the decider. Probably in reaction to the suits they face for the Thomas fire.

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 02:04 PM
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Evacuating in the dark will be awesome, not. I actually see INCREASED liability as a potential from shutting off our power in the hours leading up to a fire. Not everyone gets reverse 911 calls on their cellphones.

Abc109 Aug 15, 2018 04:33 PM
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We bought a few LED emergency "night lights". You keep them plugged into an outlet so they stay charged. Then if the power goes out, you can turn them on. One will amply light a room, so we have them strategically placed throughout the house. They last for 10 hours.

therealbebe Aug 15, 2018 04:22 PM
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Newsflash: literally millions of people live without electricity. Household electricity wasn't even a common thing until the mid-1920's. How ever did people live? Lolz. Way to sound completely entitled and so classically Millennial.

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 04:02 PM
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Yeah, really brave to anonymously downvote comments that are standing up for the elderly. But it's not just the elderly, there are many vulnerable members of our society that would be put at greater risk of harm if the power was cut every time SCE determined there was a risk of fire. Try to think about others, folks!

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 02:41 PM
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"Not rely on everyone else" - hahahah! Yeah, expecting to have electricity is so needy and un-self reliant. What a joke. Look, I'm ready - got flashlights, cell phone alerts, etc, but a lot of the elderly folks aren't as up to speed on modern technology or as quick on their feet to evac during absolute darkness. Way to think of yourself though. Bravo!

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 02:33 PM
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I evacuated in the dark once. You should have flashlights and such living here. We were able to evacuate. Also, Costco sells motion sensor nighlights that give off a bright flashlight type light when power goes out. Also living in this area, you should definitely be signed up for alerts on your phone. You have the responsibility to prepare yourself, not rely on everyone else.

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 01:56 PM
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I don't blame them one bit for turning off the power in high fire areas during extreme weather events. Reduces liability on numerous fronts and allows for safe working conditions for firefighters and other first responders. It's a win win!

RHS Aug 16, 2018 10:00 AM
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There are no Tesla battery systems available, it is another of the shill put out by the newest American fraudster--Elon Musk. If you don't believe this, go out and try to buy one.

PitMix Aug 16, 2018 08:28 AM
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Heck, SCE has been turning off the power in my neighborhood all day once every two weeks, just to replace power poles, during the hottest time of the year! And the poles they are putting in are cracking and splitting like the San Andreas fault! No way these new ones will last 70 years like the old ones.

PitMix Aug 15, 2018 04:19 PM
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Unless you have a medical condition and need chilled medicines, or electricity to generate your medical oxygen. But this is the 21st century where government doesn't help you and you are on your own. If you live in the wildland interface area, you'd better have solar panels and big Tesla battery system.

420722 Aug 15, 2018 04:15 PM
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I could totally see Edison turning the power off “just in case” all the time.

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 02:32 PM
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Light winds do not equate to the extreme fire conditions they are referring to and limiting this program to. Nor could they ever feasibly argue this (and would run afoul of government regulations applicable to this type of utility)

a-1542519610 Aug 15, 2018 02:02 PM
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Except, what if it's a light breeze and suddenly you don't have power for 4 days. What are the standards and who decides?

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