Increase in COVID-19 cases are very concerning

Hospitalizations are on the rise as well, with the number of confirmed COVID-19 patients undergoing hospital treatment statewide doubling in just the past 16 days to more than 2,400 and the number requiring intensive care doubling in the past 17 days to 575. The last time the numbers rose that quickly was in November and December, as the last winter surge was building.

It doesn't look anything like last summer. People are not dying in anything like the same numbers and we have efficacious vaccines. Take a chill pill. We are in a much better situation than last summer, if you are vaccinated.

Just remember that "we" includes the unvaccinated, some of whom are not unvaccinated by choice, plus the immunocompromised.

"Just remember that 'we' includes the unvaccinated, some of whom are not unvaccinated by choice, plus the immunocompromised."

Rubbish. I don't believe there are people who are "not unvaccinated by choice". All adults and teens have had several months to get the shot. There's no excuse for not being vaccinated. Just pig-headed stupidity and selfishness.

Young kids, who haven't been approved for the vaccine, can quarantine or wear masks until vaccines become available.

The "immunocompromised" represent a very small part of the population. They have always been with us, COVID or not. I feel bad for them, but if I was in their shoes, I wouldn't expect everyone else, especially the vaccinated, to go around wearing masks on my behalf. The immunocompromised should do what they have always done, be careful not to expose themselves to anything that might endanger them.

actually mild arthritis, over 55, or prone to allergies all represent "immunocompromised" add in diabetes, lupus, obesity and 1000 other ailments, and this is not a small % of the population. You don't have to be @ death's door.

I think the authorities are focusing on the unvaccinated, but they seem to be an intractable bunch. So they want to cover their butts and remind the vaccinated that there is still a chance we will get sick (and maybe we can convince our unvaccinated friends to get the shot). There are some vaccinated people with underlying conditions who really really don’t want to get sick at all. Covid has weird symptoms and after effects and we just don’t feel casual about it yet.

it is the "underlying conditions" which make each individual's immune response to the vaccine differ. It takes a healthy robust immune response to fully benefit from the vaccine's protection. So if you are older, or at all in doubt, you are better served by taking all available protections (ergo mask & hand washing) we still don't know 4 how long the vaccines are fully effective, even for the most healthy. So given these variables, my stance is better safe than sorry, but to each his own.

If you're smart, and have any sort of community consciousness, you'll do both.

Why both?

If you're fully vaccinated you no longer need a mask. If you're exposed to covid it doesn't matter if you can still transmit it to the unvaccinated. That's on them if they get covid. Their has been enough time to get vaccinated. No masks are necessary anymore.

Breakthrough infections. I noticed yesterday that the Public Health website includes a graph on what the case rate is for unvaccinated people is and what the case rate for vaccinated people is. Also, anecdotally, a fully vaccinated friend of mine is at home with COVID right now.

J&J is actually weak against Delta, If it were me I would upgrade to Pfizer @ 90 days Plus from their vaccine.

Oh look a real life AntiVa member! I sure hope you dont have any children. The world is already awash in stupidity and we really dont need any more offspring dragging the common denominator down even further...

CHANNELFOG says "I'm trusting my healthy immune system..."

You and thousands like you, dying on ventilators in COVID units.

It's infuriating that one of the loudest voices on this forum in favor of masking is refusing to get vaccinated.

You fool! I should not be required to wear a mask to protect your dumb ass.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

Those dying from Covid are overwhelmingly those who are unvaccinated.

SBOBSERV- Never said I am opposed to medicine and I've had numerous vaccinations, all of which have years long proven track records. The inane, stupid drivel emanates from believing that which is not proven, namely safety and efficacy. Takes years, get it?

LOL - Channel wont trust the vast majority of medical professionals, virologists, epidemiologists that have developed cutting edge, proven vaccines that have worked for MILLIONS of people but will take some debunked anti-parasite med because some dude in Brazil thinks they got better because of it. Good luck with that!

Thank God our ancestors weren’t all selfish cowards or we wouldn't have those vaccines that continued to prove themselves over the years!

Channel, STOP trying to justify not getting vaxed!! It's people like you, spreading this false garbage that is the problem. stop. get vaxed. yeah vaxed ppl get sick too, but a slight cold compared to what a none vaxed person gets. i'm not a doctor but i certainly know this much.

channel, shut it. you are promoting fear, propaganda and false information. this is the type of thing that causes slides in progress.

Which is 100% expected because the vaccines work

Its sad our health care professionals have worked to exhaustion over the the last year and when they should be getting some reprieve the hospitals are filling up again due to stupidity. They deserve better.

Forums like this would literally be a better place without voices like yours in it.

Hard to take a deep breath of fresh air when we're forced to wear masks to protect idiots like you.

Much harder if you're on a ventilator bubbling pink foam and struggling to live.

LooseCannon: Mask up if that is what is best for your situation.

"Mask up if that is what is best for your situation."

BABYCAKES: The problem is, for months on end, I didn't have a choice, did I? And I have a sneaking suspicion that the mask mandate will be re-imposed on Monday. I'm fully vaccinated, at no risk to myself or anyone else. I shouldn't have to mask up because some people are unvaccinated, stupid, and irresponsible.

The arrogance in assuming that you know or understand what the Founding Father's wanted is only matched by the arrogance and ignorance in the rest of this reply. Selfishness is Anti-American. Acting in your own interest over the needs of the country is the polar opposite of Patriotic.

LooseCannon: Wear your mask to protect yourself against the unvaccinated, stupid, and irresponsible amongst us. There is no other choice.

BABYCAKES: I don't need to wear a mask to "protect" myself. After two Pfizer shots, I am fully protected. Instead of a universal mask mandate (which is contrary to CDC recommendations), we need to shift the focus to a UNIVERSAL VACCINE MANDATE. Macron is doing it in France, Germany is following. Here in the US, San Francisco and Pasadena are making steps in that direction by requiring city workers to get vaccinated, and in New York, De Blasio is heading in that direction, too. Locally, UCSB is going it. Private businesses need to step up, too, demand that their employees get the shot or submit to regular intrusive testing, and require customers to show proof of vaccination in order to receive goods and services. The mask mandate and hygiene theater approach has failed. Everything is headed in the direction of a UNIVERSAL MASK MANDATE. The sooner we get there, the better.

Groan.... Correction: /// Everything is headed in the direction of a UNIVERSAL VACCINE MANDATE. /// (I wish we could edit ourselves. Signing out now. Fed up with this ongoing nonsense.)

Loose, If we had not had a mandate decades ago we would still be plagued by Small Pox and Polio as we were when I was a child. The luddites among us seem not to have learned from history.

SBOBS- I do understand the Founding Fathers concern for Mob Rule and that they and the population at large were very, independent individuals. They united for civil projects and defense, but were otherwise extremely individual and competitive. Yes, Americans are some of the most selfish and entitled people ever to tread upon Earth and so socialist ideas don't go over well. This is why we do not have single payer health care, a state utility grid that is maintained (rather than paying bonuses) and quality, free university. All the afore mentioned yield a more robust, healthy society yet are exceedingly unlikely due to selfishness. That is what I call Anti-American.

Bullpuckey

@2:18 PM From Florida, eh?