DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

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By the edhat staff

Multiple vehicles were involved in a collision on Cold Spring Bridge last week causing significant damage and four injuries to motorists. 

Edhat reader Patrick was one of the drivers involved in the collision and reports it was caused by a semi-truck traveling on Highway 154 emitting thick smoke. 

"The 154 accident was caused by an 18 wheeler bellowing smoke out to the point that there was no visibility causing the 4 accidents in about 10 seconds involving 7 cars," Patrick wrote, "Watch the 18 wheeler in oncoming traffic, which was a 'smoke and run.'"

Below is a dashcam video provided by Patrick:

The Santa Barbara County Fire Department reported there were five vehicles involved, with two males and two females sustaining moderate injuries who were transported to Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital. 

The semi-truck reportedly did not stop or pull over and has yet to be identified.

Patrick is asking for anyone else who may have dash camera footage, or any other witnesses who were traveling on Highway 154 between 7-8:00 p.m. on February 1st.

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Ant lion Feb 08, 2023 08:46 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

It's kind of amazing that a diver would post this video seeking to blame this truck driver for his own incompetent and unsafe driving. The reason that you should not follow too closely, and drive cautiously, especially at night, is that unexpected things like this happen and you are responsible for dealing with them safely. Sometimes there are things that cause an unavoidable accident because they happen too fast, but this isn't one of them. No way will you not be held responsible for hitting the driver in front of you.

Patrick L Siefe Feb 07, 2023 03:37 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

FondofDB, and NOT having brains enough to see that PATRICK is not me while you though he was kind of disqualifies you from the being able to actually THINK about the crash critically doesn't it? So that was a brilliant comment wasn't it?

Patrick L Siefe Feb 07, 2023 03:34 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Actually J, as my REAR dashcam showed I was on the breaks decelerating the whole time. I am just so thankful I didn't risk going over the edge of the road (like two separate cars did in this accident without anyone touching them), or into the oncoming traffic lane, as I might have been killed. I was simply braking slower than the car in front of me. So maybe all 4 of the drivers who were involved in the 4 separate accidents that occurred in the 10 seconds and 1/4 mile were all wrong, but the truck driver was right?? LOL!!! How incredible that 4 people would have made bad decisions driving separately in 10 seconds and 1/4 mile, and not the truck driver for causing it...

Lucky 777 Feb 07, 2023 09:40 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

I'm so happy to see two people mentioning putting stop signs on the pass to slow traffic down until the mapping apps consider it slower than the 101 route. I've been nagging about that simple solution for years, maybe it is starting to gain traction in the public mind and thus may eventually seem obvious to the Road Overlords who could approve and install them.

FondofSB Feb 06, 2023 12:52 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Be it clear, rainy, foggy, smoky or whatever cars follow each other too closely.
Driving down South on 101 around Los Alamos yesterday I was passed by three cars, going about 85 MPH following each other by LESS than 20 feet.
If the first one has any problem, guess what happens to all three.
CHP has NEVER enforced the 3 seconds rule.
Events like those will keep happening!
Another point: I NEVER drive 154 at might, under no condition!
Between the people who don't know how to drive (even worse in the winding road up/down the pass), the trucks driving over speed, the drunks from wine tasting and casino stays: you're potentially risky your life anytime you go through at night (it can of course also happen daytime but at least you have more time to react there provided you pay attention to your driving).
Another point: the Gaviota "rest stop" : guess what? It's been closed for more than 2 weeks! When it reopened I jokingly posted (on Edhat) that they "won't be open months", Well SADLY I was right!

Patrick L Siefe Feb 06, 2023 12:07 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Actually Voice of Reason, I WAS hitting my breaks, and interestingly the rear view also clearly shows that if I HAD slammed them on I would have been rear ended. Further as could be seen, my distance was good, and you could not see the road, so you could not see if you were even in your own lane (a MAJOR issue as I could easily have gone into oncoming traffic, or off the road (like another car did) in the smoke. Here is what the Government says:

"In extremely dense fog where visibility is near zero (mine was AT ZERO), the best course of action is to first turn on your hazard lights (I was reaching for them when this happened), then simply pull into a safe location such as a parking lot of a local business and stop. That would involve MOVEMENT, plus, being on the bridge there was no safe location).
If there is no parking lot or driveway to pull into, pull your vehicle off to the side of the road as far as possible. Once you come to a stop, turn off all lights except your hazard flashing lights, set the emergency brake, and take your foot off of the brake pedal to be sure the tail lights are not illuminated so that other drivers don't mistakenly run into you."

J.Swanson Feb 07, 2023 07:54 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Patrick the smoke blowing out of the truck is from The California Clear Air Commission (CARB). That is the aftertreatment doing a rolling burn. The exhaust temperature is above 500F so if there is a cool air it will produce smoke. Also blaming someone for you following further than you can see, also you commented that you were reaching for your Hazzard lights. So there you took your eyes off of the road for 2 seconds and in that time traveled to far into the smoke.
Stop blaming your actions on others.
Traveling to fast for the conditions at night and following to close.

Voice of Reason Feb 06, 2023 01:46 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Like I said, accidents happen and this situation sucks, but ultimately it is the drivers responsibility to NOT hit what's in front of them. If there is near-zero visibility your car should not be moving forward faster than you can stop when something comes into view.

letmego Feb 06, 2023 01:12 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

I have found myself stuck in dense fog before. So dense that I could not see the road in front of me. I could not see the yellow or white lines. I put on my hazard lights, but was on a narrow country road. Stopping would have been dangerous. With the windows down, I could hear the creek next to the road. I drove very slowly until I could feel the car go off the road onto the berm. Once on the left, then on the right. After about 10 minutes of this, a local came up behind me and passed me. I could then see the lines on the road, which were illuminated by his tail lights. I stuck to his rear like glue until I was out of the fog. Driving when you can't see is no fun, and no sudden movements...

sacjon Feb 06, 2023 11:53 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

It would be interesting to see how much time and fuel semi's actually save by going over the pass. I doubt it's much. I just did a route on Google maps from the Miramar (given it's proximity to the 101) to Los Alamos. Taking the 101 takes 58 minutes and is 61.3 miles. Taking the 154 is only 49.5 miles, but the time is the same - 58 minutes. I'd guess fuel consumption is about the same either way. So, why are semis taking the 154 at all? In the transit world, I'd assume time is of the essence, so if it makes no difference to get from point A to point B, why are they doing this?

sacjon Feb 06, 2023 03:26 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

3:00pm - that's actually a great idea! If the mapping apps/software or whatever the transit companies use show the route to be slower, they may urge their drivers to stick to the 101. You could easily pop a couple stop signs by the Cachuma entrance and other spots.

a-1675724418 Feb 06, 2023 03:00 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Maybe it was the same timing when you looked (traffic), but normally Maps shows a 1-5 minute shorter route by taking 154 on average.

This is why so many of us have suggested placing a few extra stop signs along the route. It is such a simple, cheap, easy solution to get tourists and other inexperienced or unprepared (semis!) drivers to take 101 instead.

Patrick L Siefe Feb 06, 2023 10:11 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Actually Voice of Reason, my REAR Dash cam shows clearly that I WAS breaking. I simply did not slam on my breaks, for fear of being rear ended, or going into oncoming traffic which could have been deadly, off the edge of the freeway (which one car did) , but I was actually on the breaks from the beginning of the clip!

Jeff4510 the problem with traffic "Cameras" is that they are ultra LOW resolution and black and white". However it is possible that this is an imagining camera that you are referring to. I am not sure. Interestingly the CHP Dash cameras were OFF coming up the pass, as they are only turned on when lights and sirens come on (something I did not know).

a-1675719136 Feb 06, 2023 01:32 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Translation
Voice of Reason: "I mean no disrespect"
Translation: "I will disrespect you in the following words and explain what you should have done even though the situation is very difficult and I probably would have done the same thing but I'm going to mansplain it to you instead."

Voice of Reason Feb 06, 2023 11:11 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

I mean no disrespect but if slamming on your breaks would have caused you to swerve into oncoming traffic you were going too fast for the conditions. You should not avoid breaking hard and hit what's in front of you out of fear a driver behind you MAY hit you. During the video there were times of zero visibility but you kept moving at a rather high rate of speed - when you couldn't see three feet in front of your vehicle, if there was time to slam your breaks that was it.

montecito_matt Feb 06, 2023 08:25 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Looks like the trucks brakes were smoking or it had a mechanical issue to cause such obscuring smoke, it didn't look like there was a place for the truck to pull over, if the driver had any idea there was smoke coming from their truck. The car in front had it's brakes on going into the smoke and the car with the dash cam was closing at a higher rate of speed. The crash is unfortunate and may not have been avoidable either way, possibly have been lessened by reducing more speed and activating the hazard lights entering the smoke which would eventually dissipate. Sure, keep trucks off the 154, there's still plenty of crashes not involving trucks though. I hope everyone is ok and recovering.

Jeff4510 Feb 06, 2023 07:04 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Glad you are okay and have this footage. 1st off the person in front of you is an idiot to have stopped. 2nd and more important there is a camera reader about 5m back from the bridge (east) which keeps track of all vehicles. The chp or sheriff will have access to this and if they won’t give it to you subpoena them! They have cameras everywhere- get that footage.

a-1675724129 Feb 06, 2023 02:55 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Stop in the road? No, I too think that was a bad choice. If you are going to stop, you should at least attempt to pull off the road. Easier said than done in a high stress situation, but the right choice nonetheless.

sacjon Feb 06, 2023 03:30 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

If you rear-end a car, you are at fault. Only a couple reasons the stopped driver would be at fault: intentionally trying to cause an accident, broken brake lights, maybe others. The point is, if you can't see what's in front of you, you need to stop.

Voice of Reason Feb 06, 2023 08:46 AM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

The person in front is not the idiot, that person did what the driver with the camera should have done, slow down or stop when you can no longer see in front of you. Whether it was smoke from the truck, fog, a blizzard, heavy rain or glare from the sun, if you can't see beyond the distance in which you can stop your car, you're going too fast. Sorry Patrick, it sucks but accidents happen.

Benicee Feb 05, 2023 06:08 PM
DashCam Footage of Highway 154 Collision Points at Semi-Truck

Hope they find the semi driver and charge him with felony fleeing of an accident! As someone who has been commuting the pass for almost two decades, I’d have to say it far past due to put restrictions on semi trucks that are going north/south that are not doing deliveries or business on the pass!!!!!glad everyone is alive!!

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