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What answer?

Right on.

Babycakes, exactly how is SacJon or anyone else able to disallow others' having or expressing opinions on this site?

Oh, not at all?

Be honest, you just don't agree with his politics, stop pretending like you're coming from some sort of freedom of speech or live and let live position--you aren't.

Well said Babycakes, thank you for posting.

BABY - I've never told anyone they can't have a different opinion here. I'm simply asking, ad nauseum, for VOICE to respond to my very simple question (not on my if you can't comprehend it). I'm not bashing anyone's opinion, other saying it's pretty messed up to suggest any media coverage of women and LGBQT rights is merely click bait. Do you agree?

Here's my simple question, again. See if you can help. VOICE refuses to. - Why are we still having to protest legislation by the Right that attacks and attempts to degrade the rights of women and the LGBQT community? I didn't ask why Roe v Wade wasn't more protected, I asked about legislation from the Right that is targeting women and LGBQT members.

THAT is my question. VOICE blamed Obama and then called it click bait. How is that an answer? It's not. It's not that I "don't like the response," it's that it was pure deflection and avoidance followed by repeated condescension.

NOTE: my question about ZIP codes was rhetorical and I never "demanded" a response.

So yeah, go ahead and defend VOICE all you want. You've missed the point here, clearly. I don't give a rat's behind if you eat KFC with chocolate. Why do you and your ilk care so much about who people sleep with or dress as or do with their own bodies when their life or future is at risk? You righty's keep saying your the holier than thou "let everyone do what they want" party, yet your the ONLY ones constantly defending legislation aimed at STOPPING people from doing what they want, or more accurately, need to do.

Well said Alexblue, thank you for posting.

SacJon: There's not enough time in a day, or lifetime for that matter, to provide answers to all of the questions put forward. At some point one would have to realize that when they ask/ask/ask "ad nauseum" and do not receive the answer they want, that it's time to....stop? quit? move on? give in? When one discovers and admits that it is "exhausting" to correct, point out, disagree, and so on, maybe....give it a rest? change the subject? be the "adult" in the room? Maybe think about cutting down on the volume of responses (most would agree that making 30% of the total comments would constitute a "takeover").

Anyway, it's great to have you on this board, and certainly no one (NO ONE) wants to silence your voice!

What's funny to me is the commenters on either side of the political aisle are blaming one another for the same things. It's hard for me to take what you say seriously Baby given what you've posted on this forum. This is a community website designed for dialogue and discussion. We're all allowed to have our opinions, and others are allowed to have their response to those opinions, and so on and so on. So complaining that someone had a response you didn't like is moot. Jon is not in charge of edhat, he's not the one who "allows" other opinions, he's merely responding to them. Just as you, and voice, and Alex, and basic, and all the other "loud voices" on edhat.

BABY - You're right. I too often allow VOICE to drag me into an endless back and forth. I've yet get an answer to any question posed to him at any time in the history of this website, so yes, my bad for not being the adult.

I look forward to you giving him the same lecture. It's definitely not a 1 way street here.

"did not receive the answer they want" - Lol. No. That's like me asking, "What time is it?" and then someone responding, "Obama doesn't like day light savings." That's not an "answer" to the question. So, how can I "not like the answer" when the response isn't related to the question?

"Many of your comments include questions, which require responses. You ask for "proof" when someone provides an opinion. You ask for clarifications. " - Yup, that's how a dialogue/argument/discussion/debate works.

If you put forth a claim as fact, I expect (as any grown adult would) you to provide some evidence backing that claim. If we devolve into simply blabbering out statements as "facts," then what's the purpose of having comments? That's what separates us from Facebook or other word vacuums. I love Edhat for this reason - it's a group of (generally) mature and intelligent adults engaging in discussions and yes, sometimes arguments. It's a forum for those who wish to keep wits sharp, learn new things, discuss relevant local issues and even national/global issue when appropriate. Why should we be satisfied with baseless statements being tossed around without accountability? There's plenty of places for that on the internet, but not here.

SacJon, you’re more optimistic than I. I just come here for two things—fire updates when there are fires and to talk sh—I mean talk “trash” to self righteous morons. There’s almost zero real debate here, I gave up on that a while ago.

ALEX - I agree it's hopeless with some here, but I try to hold out hope for others like CHIP, who can actually have a discussion without running away or deflecting. Voice is getting closer each day to the hopeless group though.

Honestly, I know I comment a LOT here and I get plenty of crap for doing so, but for me, it's a way to keep my mind alert as I'm getting older. I actually enjoy researching issues I didn't know about and going back and forth, to an extent. The constant "hate, insults and condescension" spewed from many here though, becomes exhausting. Funny thing is, despite the repeated claims that only us lefties do it, it goes both ways. FOND, COAST, SBLOCAL, all are proficient at proving that claim false on a daily basis.