Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

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This article has been updated with photos from Friday's vigil in the above slideshow. All photos are provided by Shapiro Photo.

 


By edhat staff
June 24, 2022

Planned Parenthood California Central Coast is hosting a "Vigil for Roe" at the Santa Barbara County Courthouse Friday at 5:30 p.m. following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn the landmark abortion rights case. 

"We hope you'll join us in solidarity," the nonprofit women's clinic posted on social media.

A draft of the Supreme Court's decision to uphold Mississippi's law limiting abortions at 15 weeks was leaked last month. Hundreds of protestors gathered at De La Guerra Plaza on May 3 for the nationwide "Bans Off Our Bodies" movement in response to the court's proposed decision.

The final decision was released from the Supreme Court on Friday, effectively overturning the nearly 50-year precedent granting women protection of their own reproductive rights.

Planned Parenthood health centers in California will continue to provide care and resources, including abortions due to state law.

"We believe all people — no matter where they live — should have the right to control their own body, life, and future. It is unjust and unacceptable that people in some states have been robbed of that right, forced to overcome unjust barriers just to access to the abortion care they need and deserve," Planned Parenthood California Central Coast states on their website. "But know this: Planned Parenthood will keep fighting with everything we've got to provide patients with a full range of high-quality sexual and reproductive health services and education so that all people get to determine the course of their own life. Because Planned Parenthood stands for care."

Vigils will also be held in San Luis Obispo and Ventura. 

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edney Jun 28, 2022 08:43 AM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

That is a fund raiser of an issue that is going nowhere.
The justices in question can simply say that at the time of the questions in the Senate hearings, they had not seen the facts presented in the the case of Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.
In 2018, the state of Mississippi enacted a law that bans abortion after 15 weeks, with few exceptions — and not for cases involving rape or incest.
The Jackson clinic and one of its doctors sued Mississippi officials in federal court, saying the state's law was unconstitutional.
A federal district court and the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of the clinic, blocking Mississippi's law. But the state appealed to the Supreme Court, which put the case on its docket.
Absent a Federal Law defining, enumerating, abortion rights even under Roe v. Wade, the issue was kicked down to the states. with nearly every state having different laws.
The simplest remedy would be for the President to lead the House and Senate to find the courage to pass a Federal abortion standard. If the Senate and House had courage, they'd pass a law that for example would say Abortion is legal in the entire USA up to XYZ weeks with no restrictions and also spell out exceptions for later term abortions. But that would take hard work and they are too fearful and lazy

Voice of Reason Jun 28, 2022 01:16 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

Spot on Edney and worth repeating: If the Senate and House had courage, they'd pass a law that for example would say Abortion is legal in the entire USA up to XYZ weeks with no restrictions and also spell out exceptions for later term abortions. But that would take hard work and they are too fearful and lazy -----except I wouldn't say it's being lazy, just that they prefer their power and wouldn't dare jeopardize, their next election, or support of their party's elite by doing right by their constituents and placing them higher than their party.

Chip of SB Jun 28, 2022 02:27 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

I’m not sure how much can be done at the federal level to regulate abortion. The Supreme Court ruling says “the constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each state from regulating or prohibiting abortion.

Voice of Reason Jun 28, 2022 03:15 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

Chip, that just means the constitution neither prohibits nor allows abortion so its relegated to the states to decided for themselves. If a Federal law was put in place guaranteeing this right before X many weeks, it would preempt any state law trying to reduce this right. This is something which should have been done decades - go check out Obama's false promises that this was a "Day 1" issue, subsequently shelved for 8 years including the nearly 6 month period where Dems had a supermajority and could have passed any legislation they wanted. Another benefit would be that it would give judges actual legislation to point to and hang their hat on in deciding future related cases, vs. the grasping at straws done in RvW.

sacjon Jun 28, 2022 04:05 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

"so its relegated to the states to decided for themselves." - and that is the problem. Because it allowed the states to decide, millions of women have NO CHOICE. It was taken from them. So, again.... if you support states' rights to legislate abortion, then you are NOT "pro-choice."

MarcelK Jun 28, 2022 04:34 AM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

The full dissenting opinion can be read at https://www.newsweek.com/full-text-supreme-court-justices-dissenting-opinion-roe-v-wade-1719034

It makes clear what an assault the majority decision is on women, families, privacy, reason, law, the stability, integrity and legitimacy of the Court, and the notion of the Founders that the U.S. Constitution was, as Chief Justice John Marshall put it, “intended to endure for
ages to come”. A key point is that, while the 14th Amendment is written in general language ("No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"), the "pinched view" of the majority is that it only applies to that which was in the minds of the ratifiers in 1868, and the liberty of women to choose the course of their lives was not in their minds at that time. Well, hardly surprising, when none of the ratifiers were women, or allowed to be women, who weren't even allowed to vote! Our society and culture are not what it was in 1868, but that seems to be what these right wing reactionaries want to reimpose on us. This view of "original intent" was not what the Founders or the ratifiers of the 14th Amendment intended and it is not the legal view that any decent rational intelligent honest person would adopt. Rather it is based on an authoritarian elitist misogynist ideology.

Voice of Reason Jun 28, 2022 07:39 AM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

Ruth Bader Ginsburg disagreed with you and voiced her concern for decades the legal shakiness of the ground RvW stood on, a concern reflected by many constitutional and legal scholars independent of their personal feelings on abortion, a concern that fell on deaf ears by pro-life legislators, a concern that the more aggressive posters herecan’t see or appreciate when theyre blinded by their emotion and desire to ‘fight’ those who provided rationale on opposing views for how and why we got here (i.e. me , even though personally am pro-choice as well).

sacjon Jun 28, 2022 10:43 AM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

VOICE - if you "personally [are] pro-choice," how is it that you support other States being able to ban and outlaw the choice you claim to be pro about? How do you reconcile your own comments?

Voice of Reason Jun 28, 2022 01:12 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

Because I'm tolerant of others viewpoints and confident the people in those other states will make the right decision for them and elect their politicians accordingly. Because I can separate my personal beliefs and emotions from the reality of how our government is structured and operates and laws we have in place. I've said time and time again the 'how' something is accomplished is just as important as 'what' is trying to be accomplished. Too many people these days erroneously feel the ends justify whatever means it take to get there.

sacjon Jun 28, 2022 01:28 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

VOICE - it's not about "viewpoints and opinions." You say you are pro-choice, but you are also pro-states banning abortion for everyone in that state regardless of who they "chose" by voting. Therefore, you are NOT "pro-choice."

Voice of Reason Jun 28, 2022 03:09 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

I never said, and am not, "pro-states banning abortion for everyone in that state..." - you've called me a LIAR (in all caps no less) for less than that FYI, but I'm used to your double standards and 'rules for me but not for thee'. You continue to misstate what I've said and put words to my comments that aren't there, while simultaneously being unable to separate your emotion from the facts of how our government, its three branches, the constitution, and the states operate. You fail to see how you need to twist the clear words of the 2A to push gun control, while simultaneously being so sure abortion is a constitutional right without even a mention of abortion in the constitution. Again, this could all be easily addressed with some reasonable, bipartisan legislation if there was actually a will to do so by our elected officials. We'll see if they actual legislate anything about it or just use it to fundraise and try to stop the bloodbath is coming in November.

sacjon Jun 28, 2022 03:13 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

VOICE - word salad.

So you do NOT support the states being able to determine their own abortion laws? Which is it? Do you support state's making their own decisions and being able to completely ban/outlaw abortions (including for rape and incest) or not?

Voice of Reason Jun 28, 2022 01:07 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

The intolerance of the current progressive movement is astounding. Have you ever seen any of the moderate or right leaning posters here write such hate towards others?

sacjon Jun 28, 2022 01:09 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

VOICE at 1:06 - ugh....doing the whole "incognito" thing again, really?

"gives that power to the people to make their choice" - What "people?" The women of Texas, LA, SD, KY and OK?

Again, please explain how you're "pro choice" while at the same time "pro-State's right to outlaw and ban abortions, whether the woman CHOOSES or not."

LCP112233 Jun 28, 2022 02:40 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

Sac. The decision been passed down to the State level. We still all the right to vote against the proposals at the state level. Still have the right to have an abortion. It is maddening indeed. But the hatred spewed on this forum towards republicans is truly disturbing.

sacjon Jun 28, 2022 02:50 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

LCP - "Still have the right to have an abortion." Yes, in CA we do and that will not be affected. But, what about those women in TX, LA, OK, SD and KY? If they didn't vote for their current leaders, then they do NOT have a choice. Would you be fine just ignoring them?

Also, really what "hate" have you seen here? People are pissed. Millions of our fellow American's have/will have the right to choose what they do with their own body outlawed and taken away from them. Should we not be upset?

edney Jun 28, 2022 12:01 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

Americans can be both ignorant and tone deaf when it comes to abortion.
Case in point: the women on the View were filming in the Bahama's griping about the Dobbs vs. Jackson Women's Health decision... the same Bahamas that ban ALL abortions for any reason and anyone involved in an abortion can be sentenced to 10 years in prison. That includes the pregnant woman.

edney Jun 28, 2022 12:21 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

MarcelK please apply the 14th amendment and Abortion to the 2nd Amendment which is an enumerated right and see if your love for the 14th stays steadfast. The right to an Abortion shall not be infringed... right?
14th "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

The 2nd Amendment is a Constitutional right widely interpreted by the states in their own idiosyncratic, sometimes unconstitutional ways. That is what you are going to have with Abortion unless Congress gets off its butt and actually buts down Federal Law on the subject. Even then you will have tension between the Federal Government and states. Look at Marijuana law for an example. Marijuana is still a Federal crime, but many states have chosen to decriminalize it. A Federal Abortion law would have to be Abortion for any reason, at any time, in a clinic by a technician (not a Doctor) to not start out in conflict with Vermont and yes, Sarah Palin's Alaska both of which allow Abortion at any time today. If a clear law is passed then Abortion would not be a constitutional right (it would require an new amendment to make it so) but it can be made a federal legal right and everyone is protected by Federal law

a-1656744976 Jul 01, 2022 11:56 PM
Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/30/technology/period-tracker-privacy-abortion.html

LOTS of good info here.

Also found at:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/deleting-period-tracker-wont-protect-115809094.html

HIPAA won't protect your health data. Legislation is totally behind technology.

NY Times "While period trackers seem like an obvious source of information about reproductive health decisions, experts say other digital information is more likely to put women at risk. Cynthia Conti-Cook, a civil rights lawyer and technology fellow at the Ford Foundation, researched prosecutions of pregnant people accused of feticide or endangering their fetuses, cataloging the digital evidence used against them in an academic paper she published in 2020. “We should start with the types of data that have already been used to criminalize people,” said Ms. Conti-Cook, who previously worked in a public defenders’ office in New York. “The text to your sister that says, ‘Expletive, I’m pregnant.’ The search history for abortion pills or the visitation of websites that have information about abortion.” One of the cases Ms. Conti-Cook highlighted was that of Latice Fisher, a Mississippi woman who was charged with second-degree murder after a stillbirth at home in 2017. According to a local report, investigators downloaded the contents of her phone, including her internet search history, and she “admitted to conducting internet searches, including how to induce a miscarriage” and how to buy pregnancy-terminating medicine like mifepristone and misoprostol online. After significant public attention, the case against Ms. Fisher was dropped. In another case, in Indiana, text messages to a friend about taking abortion pills late in a pregnancy were used to convict Purvi Patel, who successfully appealed and reduced a 20-year sentence for feticide and neglect of a dependent. “Those text messages, those websites visited, those Google searches are the exact type of intent evidence that prosecutors want to fill their bag of evidence,” Ms. Conti-Cook said. Investigators could also potentially use smartphone location data if states pass laws forbidding women to travel to areas where abortion is legal. Information about people’s movements, collected via apps on their phones, is regularly sold by data brokers.
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