Vigil for Roe Held at Santa Barbara County Courthouse

How many children have you birthed? Or are you a man who likes to tell women what to do?

a man who likes to tell woman what to do with their bodies. hey just like the GOP senators....

Zerohawk - you are back! Welcome back. These cowards won't be out saying anything to anyone's face.

You guys are hilarious. Say you are against abortion to my face and see what happens? You're so against anyone having a different opinion and I assume, you want to throw down? That's the kinda person I would LOVE to meet. Let's chat somewhere and I will tell you what I think until you do what you do.

What would happen?

NINE-inch-Edward: What would happen? Absolutely nothing as people are writing a bit of "smack" here. If anything happens, it will be akin to 'Fightin' Ron' (featured on Mad TV....you can watch the vids on the YouTube).

Huh?

By that logic, fellatio is mass murder.

My sister got her pre-natal care and cancer treatment (just after, she had cancer while pregnant) from Planned Parenthood.

GT - the scary things is old Clarence "pubic hair on my coke" Thomas has already reconsidering laws that allow married couples access to contraceptives, protection of gay sex, etc.

Sacjon - It's the nexts thing the court will go for based on what Thomas wrote. GOP leadership has already said they would go after it if they win a majority. Yet he won't recuse himself on cases where there is conflict with his insurrectionist spouse. The Supreme Court has been corrupted. Hopefully this motivates Democrat voters - kick the filibuster to the ground and make our country safe again from the tyrannical right. This court may have woken a sleeping giant.

screw SCOTUS. they just showed the entire nation that they lie. they lied to just get a job. i've got zero faith in our judicial system especially SCOTUS. What a joke. 3 of them flat out lied about this law being precedent. 3 of them. Of course it's the 3 that a liar with orange hair nominated. They have also fused church and state this week among many other things that goes against our society norms and precedent law. This radical supreme court is going against the will of the people and needs to be stopped. this is a flat out assault on our rights, our constitution and our lives.

The court needs to be expanded - and justices need to have term limits. 10 years is a good arbitrary number. Lifetime appointments for evangelical far-right terrorists isn't going to work.

Our senators and representatives needs term limits way before justices do, if they did have limits they would have codified abortion rights long ago as they wouldn't be bound to 'toe the party line' and be behooven to the senior party leadership in order to get re-elected. It would free them to actually legislate for their constituents rather than for their party.

Z- precedent = We fucked up, but it's been so long that we can't change it. bs

Zerohawk-Do you think any law that is precedent should remain?

ZERO - As democrats would say about Obama and others changing their minds about significant issues, the SC has "evolved." Relative to Roe, the SC righted a legal wrong, it did not go against "our constitution." You and others still have the ability to murder a child if you choose.

They all lied. They tell the truth when people aren't looking to satisfy and activate their political and financial supporters--people need to pay attention when they do that and believe them. They want to control your actions by imposing their religious beliefs on you. They won't stop here.

Impeach them for lying under oath.

And we should impeach any and all appointed/elected officials for lying under oath, but then we wouldn't have any politicians left..

These maggots are truly disgusting people. They are death cult sociopaths who don't give a fig about children; they exploit fetuses for political gain.

Lacey, looking towards the upcoming midterm election you should consider that Latinos are, or perhaps were, a cornerstone of the democratic voting base. Most Latinos are catholic. Just sayin...

Like Chip cares about Latino women .....

The murderous savage Catholic Church - responsible for molesting hundreds of thousands of children in our country and millions around the world - must be taxed.

Lacey- I'm NOT Catholic, but... What "violence against women" are you talking about? Not being able to kill your baby? These "poor women" can use FREE birth control instead of abortion. I'm all for women, not the government, doing what they want and support RvW, but abortion for birth control, because your lazy is disgusting.

@og - that's not a thing. And no, a few anecdotes from someone's cousin's, sister's, babsysitter doesn't count. The data does not support this insulting claim.

7:31- What are you talking about? anecdotes? Please explain.

"abortion for birth control" isn't a thing.

7:57- What IS abortion then, if not to control birth? Murder?

Oof, it's like debating a wall. You stated that "but abortion for birth control, because your lazy is disgusting." And I stated, that's not a thing. There's no data to suggest that women as a whole use abortion as a birth control. Getting a medical procedure is a thought-out process between a woman and her doctor. Unless of course you're referring to actual birth control pills as abortion and, well, if that's the case then I can't engage with you any further.

8:37- I didn't suggest that "women as a whole" use abortion as birth control. Please read. I agree that "Getting a medical procedure is a thought-out process between a woman and her doctor" and I have no issue. No...I'm not "referring to actual birth control pills as abortion". Where did you get that? My point is, that there are many easy ways to prevent the vast majority of pregnancies. If you don't want to get pregnant and want to have sex, please use one! Don't use abortion.
Signed, The Wall.

OGSB - women and girls in many states will be forced to carry pregnancies to full term in situations of rape and incest. How is that not violence against women?

"These "poor women" can use FREE birth control instead of abortion. " Clarence Thomas wrote in his argument overturning Roe that the very case that allows birth control should be overturned. The GOP is a terrorist organization on the level of the Taliban. They will be stopped.

LACEY - What do you have to say about the "violence" inflicted on a baby during the abortion process?

General - I'm not defending the molesters of any religion, but, how are these acts "murderous?" Would you agree the abortion of a defenseless unborn child is murder?

Doulie, stop being such an extremist. Start looking at things in a practical and rational way. Is a chemical abortion of a 32 cell blastosis violence inflicted upon a baby? Is you masturbating and not using the sperm for their purpose, to create a future baby, violence inflicted upon a baby? Of course not.

Alex - My comment to Lacey is practical and reasonable asking if they considered the abortion of a defenseless and unborn child murder. IMO the abortion process itself is violent, the pain that could be experienced by the baby on/about the 20th week definitely adds to this violent act of murder. You're way out in left field asking about "masturbation" and "future baby."

@Doulie - That's your opinion. Others have different opinions. Ultimately if it's not your body, it's none of your business.

Define life. What is it? When does it start? When is an embryo, then a fetus, then a baby viable outside the womb? When are those words applied? What is the indicator that life or death actually exists? Cite the science and the facts. Otherwise, until you clarify these facts, you're just another old man with an opinion about something that he knows nothing about...

3:25 - Like you?

The way some of these extremists define life, it would include cancerous tumors.

Churches have become political organizations - promoting candidates and donating to campaigns. That tax free status for those churches that become political needs to go by the wayside. These smarmy religious evangelicals that have been on TV this weekend defending the ruling have woken a sleeping giant. We're coming for your religious control next.

Observer, these are certainly not questions for politicians! Especially those who are ignorant about basic sexuality and biology.

"Churches have become political organizations - promoting candidates and donating to campaigns. That tax free status for those churches that become political needs to go by the wayside. " - sound a lot like unions, and universities. Remove the tax free status for them too and I think you got a deal.

9:30am (probably voice) - Unions aren't allowed to donate to campaigns. Universities provide far more than churches to our society so their tax exempt status is not really comparable to churches.

Let's be more clear, talking to "the wall". Many women DO get pregnant on birth control. "Don't want to get pregnant, use BC." Well...duh? However, we still deserve the right to bodily autonomy, full stop. We don't even force dead people to give up their organs to save a living, breathing person.

Abortion is not murder, it is the ending of a pregnancy. There is not a "baby", it is a fetus. It is not a person, it is possibly a future person. There are many many reasons why it is not a "baby", and spontaneous abortions are a thing (as are ectopic pregnancies, severe fetal abnormalities). All of these are things that most reasonable people would consider LEGITIMATE REASONS to end a pregnancy.

But in the end, it DOES NOT MATTER what YOU think is a legitimate reason. It is MY BODY and MY UTERUS. Nobody has a right to use my body without my permission.

Blastocyte cells start growing, five or six days after sperm-meets-egg. Dividing blastodyte cells become an embroyo 10 - 12 weeks later, then a fetus, thenmust become a VIABLE entity that can survive outside the womb before it can be called a baby. Two start the proces but only one carries it, births it and often, is the only one responsible for its care. Women don't rape men; politicians & churches don't feed, clothe, shelter and provide care for babies or children unless they create and support ophanages.