Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

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By Josh B.

Construction flooding on W. Valerio Street?

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a-1653681570 May 27, 2022 12:59 PM
Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

I' d assume it is somehow related to the ongoing work that is being done in the street, so it is likely the contractor (and City) know about the situation.

a-1653705757 May 27, 2022 07:42 PM
Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

NO, not good enough for government work, good enough for a private contractor doing government work it seems. This knee jerk bot like hostility to government is tiresome.

edney May 27, 2022 08:41 PM
Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

If you've ever seen street grafitti, you know everything is religiously marked according to maps before digging. Private contractors always dial before they dig because if you call the 811 number, the City of SB has to come out and mark it for you. If the pipe is not where the City map says or where the city map reader places the marking paint, the private contractor is not liable. Its like free insurance. So they all do it. If the pipe is marked correctly and the private contractor still hits it, its on them.
In my experience, in the street it is usually the City 's fault. Piplelines in the wood are 50-50 fault because paint and flags get moved, covered etc, whereas street markings are painted on the asphalt

So that leads me to believe

tagdes May 27, 2022 09:29 PM
Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

If it actually wasn't on their map then it was the city's fault for not marking the plans correctly. More likely it was USA alerts that missed it. Call before you dig. I spent over 30 years as an inspector and resident engineer here and I've seen Lash only blow out minor gas lines twice in that time it was because the gas company lines were not installed code. Contractors especially this one and Tierra are very careful as they have nothing to gain.

Getoffmylawn May 28, 2022 05:50 AM
Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

It's going to happen again because the city doesn't know where old service lines are.
2 inch service line attached to the mainline over the current trench lash is digging. If its not shown with paint where it is, 9 times out of 10 what ever is in the way will get ripped out.

edney May 28, 2022 01:20 PM
Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

It's why the City of SB now uses outsourced GPS services to locate and map new tee/saddles, and the meter they go to. Some laterals to meters used to be installed with malleable copper to bend around obstacles (as were old lead pipes from way back when). Those are impossible to mark accurately and hand digging is prohibitively expensive
I don't know if City of SB outsources USA location marking, but if you call 811 for a Montecito location, Montecito Water District sends their own rep.
For gas, So Cal Gas sends a So Cal Gas rep. Their poly pipe lateral lines are now put in with a tracer wire because they wiggle around a bit much. Frontier, Verizon, Cox, SCE generally speaking seem to like to combine efforts and use the same utility locating subcontractor per address

edney May 28, 2022 01:28 PM
Construction Flooding on Upper W. Valerio?

I know people vote my factual comments down because they don't like me personally, but what Tagdes wrote was nothing but useful information
I would quibble over USA, with Tagdes because USA is just a clearinghouse, they do not actually locate anything, they just document and route the request; possibly over whether the City of SB uses a subcontractor like IntelliQuest or does it in house but some people here need to grow up and stop acting like little b***** Jr Hi kids

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