Vandalizers Caught on Camera

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Vandalizers Caught on Camera
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The three guys in the attached video tagged an entire wall at 433 Chapala St. tonight at approximately 12:30 am. I saw them at the tail end of their job. They saw me and came my way and then decided to go the opposite direction. I called 911 and let them know this just happened and I had video, but like usual I was told to go online and file a police report. This must have taken a considerable amount of time? That lot is on the corner of Haley and Chapala, it's empty and pretty well lit. There is so little police presence that crimes are being done in plain sight with no fear of getting caught.

 

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Luvaduck Nov 24, 2021 02:49 PM
Vandalizers Caught on Camera

It's ugly. It's an eye-sore. It isn't their property so they have no right to claim it.

Lucky 777 Nov 24, 2021 01:30 PM
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The sad thing is that these "tags" are signatures, and the police have at their disposal a graffiti documentation databank that can clearly identify whose mark each one is. You can call in graffiti to the PD hotline ‭(805) 897-2513‬ but they should make a way for citizens to upload photos dates and times, so that when they catch the taggers the next time they have numerous events to add up to enough removal cost to have them receive punishment. Disregard for property soon morphs into disregard for human life. The best punishment is to make the bad boys go out and scrub the marks back off, preferably wearing inmate orange. Right now when you report graffiti on your own property that initiates a demand that you clean it off within a certain timeframe, at your own expense. Totally unfair.

Byzantium Nov 24, 2021 10:57 AM
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"Broken Windows" does need to be the next Santa Barbara Read book choice. We all need to get on the same page, and then chose our next Chief of Police.

doulie Nov 25, 2021 07:47 AM
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Nov 24@11:16 - I'm certain the little hoodlum, after being caught by a citizen, is not going to stand around and listen to their lecture:) How about avoiding contact and simply call police. Your comment about "risk of police escalation" is a joke. How about the following example of why we should try to stop a "petty crime" from occurring. Increasing the maximum value of property stolen in a petty (theft), gave thieves incentive to do more stealing, which they do. Since there has been minimal enforcement of petty theft crimes; prosecution reduced; and bail reduced to "OR" releases, look what's happening now. The clowns are now committing what are being identified as "flash mob" thefts during the day. Petty theft on steroids. Stop the BS before it develops into something we don't want. Happy Thanksgiving.

dukemunson Nov 24, 2021 12:05 PM
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"how too many of our cops act nowadays" ? The way they are acting is not stopping crime, which is leading to an escalation of crime!

a-1637781385 Nov 24, 2021 11:16 AM
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Not that you at all have an obligation to, but you'll make more of an impact by explaining to the perpetrator why what they are doing affects other people. Threatening to call the police doesn't really do anything productive, just encourages the kid to leave (as they did). With how too many of our cops act nowadays, I would never call for a petty crime like this. Not worth the very real risk of police escalation.

Alonzo Nov 24, 2021 08:29 AM
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Last week I was sitting just inside Taco Bell in Carp and three young teens arrived on their scateboards just opposite me, outside. One of them pulled out a black marker and began writing on the adjacent pillar. I knocked on the window and pointed at him, then
went outside and in a loud voice told him it was a crime, and I was going to call the police...and that I had taken his pic. He left but his pals stayed and ordered food, going back outside. I went back and told them that I had owned commercial property (true) and what a hassle it was to have tagging show up, then having to paint over it. Just then the manager came out and told me to leave them alone saying "They're just kids...we'll deal with it"...I said to her..."I doubt it" and left.

happy camper Nov 24, 2021 08:13 AM
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Through no fault of their own, and through no fault of the City Council, the SB Police Department is massively understaffed and has had to prioritize how they respond to problems. The money is there to hire more officers, and they are actively recruiting, but they are about 20% below their desired staff levels. The current climate is not conducive for young men and women to join the police department, even in a community as relatively crime-free and low key as Santa Barbara. So, to those of you who think the police should do more, help them recruit new officers!

a-1637792865 Nov 24, 2021 02:27 PM
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I think there is a much more pervasive toxic culture at the Sheriff's department. My experience with SBPD is very positive- courteous, concerned, reasonable, community-policing oriented; effective non-confrontational tactics; co-response teams to deal with mental health problems. they don't try to ticket folks for minor things; all carry Narcan to help in drug overdoses; seldom resort to physical force,

happy camper Nov 24, 2021 02:27 PM
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I think there is a much more pervasive toxic culture at the Sheriff's department. My experience with SBPD is very positive- courteous, concerned, reasonable, community-policing oriented; effective non-confrontational tactics; co-response teams to deal with mental health problems. they don't try to ticket folks for minor things; all carry Narcan to help in drug overdoses; seldom resort to physical force,

a-1637782090 Nov 24, 2021 11:28 AM
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Disagree heavily. It has become obvious that every police department bears significant responsibility for the climate they have created. The militant attitude and blatant, disturbing protection of their brethren over the public good has bred this. Our local PDs are no different. Kaci Beutel, Jeremy Rogers, WHY on earth are these people still employed in law enforcement? Because law enforcement cares about their own more than the public, and choice of inaction is clear as day. Nothing about the lack of qualified applicants is surprising. They need to start helping themselves by overhauling the good ol boy clubs and me-first attitudes they have bred for decades.

doulie Nov 24, 2021 10:59 AM
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Observer - We're getting off topic here but I'm in. I hadn't heard or read there was a "toxic culture" at the PD. Would you mind explaining what you report as a "toxic culture?" There will always be a "screw up" in any agency, but who are the "bad leaders" and "poor decisions" involved in the last 10 years? I'd say the PD is not held in the high stature throughout the state as it was in the late 60's through the 70's. Overall, I haven't read there's a big problem with our officers." Who are the people you believe created what you ID as a "toxic culture?"

What I found interesting was when the city needed a new Chief they did not select a current staff member. Historically, a Captain was an officer, through training and experience, capable and prepared to move into the Chief position. Why were local Captain's passed over? As to recruitment, I'd like to learn the standards to become an officer in SB have not been lowered simply to fill a position.

SantaBarbaraObserver Nov 24, 2021 08:33 AM
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How is the current toxic culture of the SBPD not the fault of the SBPD? How many bad hires, bad leaders, poor decisions have these people made in the last 10 years? We're on our 4th chief in that same period. With the last full time hire being among the worst. Apparently she was hired based solely on her sex as her record was anything but strong...

I find it strange that you don't put the reasons for lack of recruitment on the very people who created and fostered a toxic culture that is the SBPD. Change comes from within, but only when the toxicity is removed and the a healthy culture fostered. As Steve Jobs famously said: "A players do not want to work with B players"...

Basicinfo805 Nov 23, 2021 08:01 PM
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1:10 how'd you like to see your business/property tagged like this when you wake up in the morning? Or do you think it's a cool look? Kinda SB hip to have puto graffiti all over your town? Wow.

Transparent Nov 23, 2021 07:50 PM
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Yeah, it's kind of a bad thing for a town when crimes are regularly committed and the police and pols are like, "meh"... even if they aren't triple homicides.

Don't waste too much frustration arguing with people who don't understand why it's important and where it leads. They're likely missing a few screws, or maybe live up on the Riviera with a really good perspective from which to look down on people who have to live with it.

CoastWatch Nov 23, 2021 05:35 PM
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"Broken Windows" Policing NEEDS to be re-instated. I wonder how the moron's on this site who "don't have an issue" with graffiti would feel if their business or private property was damaged...(I guess they have no stake in the game as losers)

el_smurfo Nov 23, 2021 04:16 PM
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Anyone else kind of sad that we seem to have pervasive surveillance all over town, every house has a doorbell camera, every building has cameras, and yet crime seems to go unpunished.

Bird Nov 24, 2021 06:19 AM
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Yes, I am sad at the state of the city. Maybe with the new mayor there will be the annual state of the city speech AND attention given to the small but important quality of life issues. Downtown cameras on streets, as are on Stearns Wharf, would be good to identity such trashers as these guys.

a-1637706348 Nov 23, 2021 02:25 PM
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No one is above the law - that includes white collar and corporate criminals who despite being busted repeatedly they continue disobeying the law.

a-1637711778 Nov 23, 2021 03:56 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Same as theft. No one should be able to steal $899.00 worth of merchandise and get away with it. One more dollars worth and it’s a crime. Theft is theft and vandalism is vandalism. That’s like saying someone got shot , meh there are wars going on, who cares about a gun shot? You know who? The person who got shot.

sfgac055 Nov 23, 2021 02:10 PM
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So lame. It'd be much more of a flex if they'd graffiti on their gang rivals homes, vehicles, businesses, etc... and leave the uninvolved neighbors, businesses and freeway overpasses alone. :)

doulie Nov 23, 2021 02:00 PM
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1846 - Nothing "strained" about this reported vandalism? Possible, if this garbage (minor crime ) continues in plain sight, some clowns in this city will believe they can move up and begin "hitting" businesses as is being done in the larger cities, "in plain sight." It may not be a threat to the community but what about the business owners that are "tagged." Are you willing to go out to each and pay the cost to clean up this garbage?

Byzantium Nov 23, 2021 01:40 PM
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Crimes were committed in plain sight - full public view. This does demonstrate impunity. Vandalism and property damage is a crime. They committed this crime. Leaving the scene of the crime after being caught on camera is another thing entirely. No excuses. Gang membership requires increasing acts of crime and violence in order to get "jumped" into the gang. Graffiti is often the first level activity. Just keep that in mind when you see groups of young people in the act of committing the crime of vandalism and/or graffiti, you may or may not be witnessing gang activity - leave that for the police to decide. This is not public art - the difference between art and graffiti is permission. Unlikely if they had permission, they would not have explained this to the person photoing their proud efforts.

a-1637701846 Nov 23, 2021 01:10 PM
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Your breathless account seems a bit strained. "Crimes are being done in plain sight with no fear of being caught."??? Seems like these criminals fled upon being observed so they did evidence some degree of fear of being caught. And unpleasant as it is, graffiti is not a serious threat to the safety of the community.

a-1637779237 Nov 24, 2021 10:40 AM
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Our our city and California in general are undergoing a wave of crimes that are as is graffiti, "not a serious threat to the safety of the community" but they are a serious threat to public order. The state legislature in its idiotic thinking has made some crimes not crimes. A $950 theft or property damage is no longer a punishable crime in CA, 80 young non-criminals raided a Nordstrom store in Walnut Creek and other stores in the Bay Area and stole thousands of dollars worth of merchandise and attacked people. Nothing serious. Forgetaboutit! You are cavalier about what you consider to be allowable crime. There is no such thing and as time moves ahead, we will all pay a heavy price for your kind of reasoning! It will get much worse. Wait!

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