Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

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A friend of mine called and asked what I thought about the city considering a fence being placed around Ortega Park. I had not heard about this; and being caught off guard wasn't sure how to answer. What are your thoughts, especially those living near the park?

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a-1631811169 Sep 16, 2021 09:52 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Swimming pool people and skateboard people aren't at all the same crowd. A little concerned that the skateboard park will cause late-night activity. Skateboard is not family activity, nor scholarship kids activity. I'm putting this out from my innermost thoughts as discussion, sort as devil's avocate.

a-1631804956 Sep 16, 2021 08:09 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

There is also a proposal to cover the skate park in murals. This will give local artists plenty of opportunities to showcase their work.

a-1631804866 Sep 16, 2021 08:07 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Fencing was proposed at the Eastside Neighborhood Park too, and look at Plaza Vera Cruz. This is done in lower income neighborhoods to restrict access. You don't see fencing at Alameda Park, Pershing Park, or along the coast.

doulie Sep 17, 2021 06:48 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

3501 - Specifically, what is it you suggest I research? In reading my comment, what is it you believe I missed or don't know that requires more research on my part?

doulie Sep 16, 2021 09:02 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

4866 - Fencing "proposed" at Eastside Park. Was it built? Did you see there are items at Vera Cruz Park and the proposed Ortega Park upgrade that require "something" to make them safe and keep them secure? Why should there be fencing at Alameda or Pershing Park? What's in those parks that require a fence? Now, I'll guess you're the type person, if a fence were built in the other areas, you would say they're built to keep the druggies, vagrants and alcoholics from going out into the public view. Fencing "along the coast." Kind of early to get on your soap box isn't it?

SBCountyLocal Sep 16, 2021 06:24 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

A 6 to 8ft fence is needed. They also need a larger pool and to ditch the skate park. They should also instal a climbing wall. Beyond this they need to build out the pool at the same time everything else is built.

Getoffmylawn Sep 15, 2021 06:54 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

People have their head in the sand, then they "hear" something and questions start flowing.

mtndriver Sep 15, 2021 03:31 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Maybe do a little research before jumping to conclusions about this (and so many other things). On the City website page on the project there is a whole lot of information: (https://www.santabarbaraca.gov/gov/depts/parksrec/keyinitiatives/currentprojs/ortegaparkproject.asp) There was a long community process with many public meetings around designing the park. It didn't just suddenly appear fully formed, designed by some City agency. And they are looking for grant money to complete construction. City gave a grant of 1 million, but much more is needed. Looks like a great addition to that neighborhood, a real "activities" park.

a-1631804289 Sep 16, 2021 07:58 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

MTNDRIVER, looks can be deceiving. There is so much you don't know, there are so many greedy fingers in the pot. It's important to understand that Parks is in bed with special interest groups and that's why a skate park was put in the Master Plan Day 1.

RHS Sep 15, 2021 03:14 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

We all know what the fences are for. It is to get the riff raff at bay. And allowing the private trampoline company exclusive access to a public park is more than wrong. I remember when there was a push to let Disney take over King's Canyon park for exploitation. So once again the city bureaucracy succumbs to fascist instincts to deal with a social problem beyond its ken.

SBLetsGetAlong Sep 15, 2021 02:39 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

What is the fence for?

And why are there no fences around other parks? Such as Alex Keck, la Mesa, Shoreline, etc.

NotReallyDave Sep 15, 2021 09:40 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

The fence can be used to require admission payment. That will keep the cheapy people out to save on wear and tear, bring more income in for employee pension fulfillment, and keep the newly produced murals from fading so quickly. Or so we will be told.

Eggs Ackley Sep 15, 2021 05:53 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

A fence is a structure that encloses an area, typically outdoors.

PS about Park Park https://www.independent.com/2006/06/08/story-alice-keck-park-memorial-garden/

Sensibly Common Sep 15, 2021 12:48 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Where is the money coming from? Looks very nice but I didn’t know they city was flush with cash.

sacjon Sep 15, 2021 12:52 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

SENSIBLY - really? It's Santa Barbara. You really think they don't have the money for a fence and this is some kind of scam on the taxpayers? This is exactly what we pay taxes for. Not everything is a conspiracy.

Transparent Sep 15, 2021 11:56 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

PS --"Some" fencing around the soccer is obvious or balls will constantly fly into the street.

As I said, I advise against blowing this issue up... but if you have questions you should ask about entry points (gates) and access policies (locked?) rather than simply if there has to be some fencing. The answer to that is "yes."

Transparent Sep 15, 2021 11:45 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Google 'Ortega Park Master Plan' and you'll see a nice sketch of what it's supposed to be. Should be very nice, but we community members need to be vigilant that the City follows through. Especially with funding for the pool. Quibbling over details (even after god knows how many meetings and committees and decisions) has already delayed the park that the neighborhood really deserves, and jeopardized external grant funding possibilities.

So, imho, the fence is a detail. I would advise about blowing up the issue. That said, according to the current plan~1/4 of Ortega will be a pool area... so naturally fenced in some fashion. And typically skate parks and kids play-areas are fenced too. The big question is the soccer field. Personally (just my opinion) I prefer no fence except for tall backstops behind the soccer goals. Access from all sides and any time (when there's not a reserved practice or game) is nice. It should be up to police to ensure folks aren't camping, rather than a system where the entire field locked whenever it's not "scheduled for use." But that only works if the police actually prevent tents and mis-use. East-side kids deserve a safe, clean place to play soccer or whatever they want to do in the grass. I would be sad, but understand if the City decides to lock it when not in use like at the Girsh soccer fields in Goleta.

bosco Sep 15, 2021 10:56 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Why? That sounds like a stupid and useless idea. It's a park that's open to the public not a prison yard.

a-1631737784 Sep 15, 2021 01:29 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

I agree. It's pointless, or rather, the points to be made are minor and serve very few people. Leave it how it is, it's nice!

PitMix Sep 15, 2021 10:40 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

have really not seen this done, even in places like LA. They only fence off areas that have expensive equipment like pools. Chain link is easy to cut for holes, or climb, so the kids and homeless can still get in. Will probably only work to discourage law-abiding citizens from using the park? They really need to look into this, and check with the Police, before they spend the money.

a-1631724551 Sep 15, 2021 09:49 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

They should put the fence about 3'-0" inside property line from the public right of way (like a sidewalk), because the public cannot be trusted to keep their dogs off the park. Hopefully it will keep the poop outside the play area.

a-1631803160 Sep 16, 2021 07:39 AM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Completely agree. Any fenced area will attract the zealous dog people, who believe in keeping dogs as pets but don't believe in restraining them on leashes. Or cleaning up their poop. Or training them.

a-1631745042 Sep 15, 2021 03:30 PM
Ortega Park: Fence or no fence?

Most likely the opposite would happen, fenced in area = unofficial dog park to a lot of people.

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