The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

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By Dr. Henning Ansorg, M.D., FACP, Health Officer County of Santa Barbara, Department of Public Health

1) Getting vaccinated against COVID-19 will keep you from getting sick. The available vaccines are very effective in preventing infection and illness from COVID-19. In very rare cases where one does catch the virus, the vaccine will prevent you from becoming seriously ill or needing to be hospitalized.

2) Those who choose to be vaccinated can enjoy more activities. According to the CDPH, can:

  • Visit with other fully vaccinated people indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
  • Visit with unvaccinated people (including children) from a single other household who are at low risk for severe COVID-19 disease indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if asymptomatic and feasible

3) Getting vaccinated helps our entire community. Returning to a more fully opened lifestyle will require herd immunity, which most experts estimate will happen when between 75%-85% of the United States population is vaccinated. We all need to do our part to achieve herd immunity by getting vaccinated.

4) Protecting yourself by getting vaccinated also protects those around you, including those at increased risk of severe illness from the virus, or those who can’t get vaccinated such as infants or people with weakened immune systems from things such as chemotherapy for cancer.

5) COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. The effectiveness of our available vaccines in preventing infection, severe illness and death from COVID-19 is remarkably high. The safety of the vaccines are a top priority and we have procedures in place to ensure the safety of any vaccine that is authorized or approved for use.

For more information about the COVID-19 guidance and the local response, please visit https://publichealthsbc.org. For those that need assistance in making vaccination appointments, please call 2-1-1 option 4 in Santa Barbara County.

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Shasta Guy May 06, 2021 12:49 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

I just got my second Pfizer dose at GVCH this morning. It’s a well run operation. My main motivation was the prevention of long term symptoms such as the potential of reduced lung capacity for the rest of my life. Or, nothing could happen after recovery, but I didn’t want to take the chance.

a-1620370208 May 06, 2021 11:50 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Got my first dose this a.m.! Fantastic operation; one can feel the good thoughts and actions there. I too am very scared of possible infection, both short & long term risks. I always knew I'd take the vaccine.
Yay for vaccines!

Chip of SB May 06, 2021 12:58 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

There are a lot of unknowns about the vaccines being distributed under emergency use authorizations. How effective are they, particularly against new variants? How long does “immunity” last? Are there any
Long term side effects? The answer is we don’t know yet. As far as the risk vs benefits calculation goes, it varies for different people. For young children, the fda had not yet judged the benefits of vaccination to outweigh the risks and has not issued an EUA allowing the vaccination of children. This makes sense because Covid poses a very low risk to children. The vaccines also have risks. See this example of a young woman who would have been a lot better off unvaccinated. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-03/victims-of-rare-vaccine-injury-wait-to-see-if-u-s-fund-will-pay?sref=i4qXzk6d This is why taking a vaccine should be an individual choice made with informed consent. I would also caution that although the makers of the vaccine are exempt from liability, other entities are not. Any person or organization who coerces people to get vaccinated is liable for any harm caused by the vaccine. Note the medical bills for the young woman in the article are already over 1/2 million, and it is not clear what the long term implications of her injuries will be or what level of care she will require for the rest of her life.

Andrea Smith May 06, 2021 04:58 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

CHIP there is ALWAYS risk with vaccines, even those around a long time. You have one example, out of how many who have gotten it? The risk with Covid is much more substantial than this one case you point to, for the population as a whole. They already said, new data shows vaccine prevents transmission and is good up to 12 months likely. I hope there won't be a need for boosters in the future as the virus dissipates and hopefully weakens but all this concern about vaccines, where is the attendant concern about the effects of Covid which are much, much worse?

GeneralTree May 06, 2021 10:07 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Chip didn't even read the article he posted. The girl's case had no proof of causation of her condition due to the vaccine. And stated treatments such as hydroxychloroquine and others have caused more injury than reports of vaccine doing harm. Well done Chip, spreading low information nonsense. Tylenol and aspirin are killers, but you probably take those because they aren't political.

Channelfog May 07, 2021 03:37 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

And pertinently , Uruguay now has a right wing, evangelical president who followed Bolsonaros' lead; do nothing and don,t worry about the Brazil border. Uruguay went from 3rd best globally to 3rd worst. Covid vaccinations? We shall see....

bosco May 06, 2021 01:21 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

I think it is pretty clear. COVID will not go away. It's safe to assume that everyone will be exposed at some point. So the question people really should pose to themselves is what risk is greater? COVID infection or the vaccine? By not getting the vaccine you are essentially choosing to eventually get a COVID infection. Also, scientists don't know the long term effects a COVID infection may have on the body either. At least mRNA vaccines have at least been studied for almost 10 years. For anyone concerned with safety risk, it should be a no brainer to get a vaccine.

Andrea Smith May 06, 2021 05:04 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

BOSCO as I was making my hopefully well thought out decision to vaccinate, one of the factors that pushed me to the decision to get the jab was the possibility of long term effects from a Covid infection. I think my chances of surviving Covid are pretty high or at least high enough that I wasn't as worried about dying but those long Covid cases are scary. I remember how even after a flu it could take weeks to recover fully so I can't even imagine. So, is the choice long covid or take a risk and hope no long term side effects from vaccine [which seem less likely at least at this point]. That's just my take.

LCP112233 May 06, 2021 03:55 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

This is all great news and been a long time coming. I am proud to be fully vaccinated for the greater good. The faster we get to herd immunity the better. I, for one, feel way more safe and protected than before. Covid is nasty and is not going away any time soon.

Andrea Smith May 06, 2021 04:54 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

I was not planning to get the vaccine at first but after time passed, people were getting it and more data came out I balanced the options, weighed risk and got the vaccine and I'm glad I did. Am I concerned that possibly 2/5/10 years from now we find out about long term effects? Yes. Nothing is foolproof, but the risks for me weighed in favor. The thing that bugs me now is these people who think vaccinated people "shed" spike proteins. I mean, all the data proves that completely wrong, not to mention, are these people not worried about the actual real live spike protein from the virus itself which hijacks your cells, multiplies then sheds all over the place possibly killing you or another and doing long term damage? Social media is great in many ways but it is also serving as a conduit for these people. I hope we can get to herd immunity but it's looking more and more like we won't b/c of these weird theories and hesitancy, which don't get me wrong I understand as I was nervous about them but at this point I think there is enough data.

GeneralTree May 06, 2021 10:01 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

A poll from NPR, PBS and Marist found about 47 percent of Trump voters and 41 percent of Republicans said they would not get the vaccine compared to 10 percent of Democrats and 11 percent of those who voted for President Joe Biden. This is due to the fact that Republican voters are more likely to believe low information conspiracy theories that comfort their own short-sighted, ill-informed, massively uneducated world views.

Chip of SB May 07, 2021 07:43 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

There is a bit more to it than that generaltree. Republicans, or so called “conservatives” believe strongly in individuality and personal choice. They are accepting of other people who are different. In the case of vaccines, this explains the near 50-50 split you describe. Some choose to vaccinate, some choose not to, and they respect each other’s choice. There are even cases of married couples where on spouse chooses to vaccinate and the other chooses not to. For “conservatives” differences are respected and it’s not a big deal. For democrats or so called “liberals” there is no tolerance for people who are different. They believe there is only one acceptable path in life and demand that everyone follow it. So called “liberals” have strict codes of conduct for what people are allowed to say and how people are allowed to act. Anyone who differs is attacked and coerced until they conform. This is why nearly all “liberals” are getting vaccinated. It is not enlightened personal choice, but rather pressure to conform and a fear of being different.

Voice of Reason May 07, 2021 08:28 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

I think you summed it up rather accurately (and without any name calling or insults which is hard from many here to manage when discussing anything other than their preferred party). It's like the parties have completely flip flopped the past 10-20 years. Remember when UC schools were bastions of free speech and personal expression and liberals fought against big businesses / corporate America while conservatives where trying to ban violent video games and bad language in music? Now the left is the one silencing speech they don't agree with, are in bed Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Wall Street, while the right has become / is becoming the party of the working class.

a-1620404910 May 07, 2021 09:28 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

CHIP- I could not have said it better. I feel great pressure to vaccinate from "liberal" friends and family who speak of "Science", a science that remains unproven from both efficacy and safety perspectives. This is not about antivax folks, it is about these particular unproven, experimental vaccines. It will takes years to intelligently assess both efficacy and safety. All else is desperate straw grasping in a world that is changing most profoundly and distressingly.

Ahchooo May 07, 2021 10:14 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

I consider myself liberal, but not the nutty, intolerant kind that Chip speaks of. I find it interesting that Chip claims that “conservatives” respect differences, when that is often far from the truth. Any of these broad generalizations don’t hold up when analyzed. Also, liberal or conservative, the ones getting vaccinated are doing so because they believe what various scientists say and have seen the benefit of vaccines throughout history. It is absolutely not due to pressure to conform, at least not for any of the many liberals I know.

Hado_Ken_57 May 07, 2021 10:36 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Chip, I find it hard to believe conservatives respect differences. For example, being gay. If conservatives respected that difference, gay people would have been able to marry a long time ago.

Voice of Reason May 07, 2021 10:47 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

That may have been conservatives position decades ago when it was more rooted in Christianity but these day there all about to each his own. Do remember that Trump appointed the first openly gay person to a cabinet position.

sacjon May 07, 2021 11:58 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

VOR - which states, Republican or Democrat, have actively resisted LGBQT rights? Examples: gay weddings, family leave and other benefits for domestic partners, trans bathrooms, trans medical procedures, etc etc etc....

Also, Trump appointing an openly gay person doesn't make the conservatives bastions of LGBQT rights. Lol....come on now.

Chip of SB May 07, 2021 12:20 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Sac, a majority of california voters passed prop 8 which outlawed gay marriage. Also, Hado, I know and have met a lot of people who would be identified as “conservative” and I have never encountered the type of prejudice you describe. I would urge some caution in judging conservatives, because they do not abide by speech codes the same way liberals do. I think the film grand Torino provides a good example of a character who is a bit rough around the edges and uses some coarse language that doesn’t fit with liberal speech codes yet still has a heart of gold. It’s easy to misjudge people, liberal and conservative, if you don’t get to know them a little bit.

Voice of Reason May 07, 2021 01:04 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Good point Chip, and Sac, I said that conservatives look at this as a “to each his own” and somehow your warped thinking take away is that conservatives are “ bastions of LGBQT rights” . To each his own means they’ll defended your right to do whatever you want to, not that they’ll defend what you end up doing.

GeneralTree May 07, 2021 01:19 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

No Chip - liberals have plenty of tolerance for other opinions - but when those opinions are harmful, racist, misogynistic, or disproven by science or historical fact - then the snowflake conservatives get uppity for being called out on it.

sacjon May 07, 2021 01:19 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

VOR - none of that made any sense. I was being sarcastic about bastions of LGBQT rights because you proclaimed Trump as some sort of savior due to one appointment. Anyway......if conservatives are truly all about "your right to do whatever you want to do," then why all the resistance to LGBQT friendly legislation? How about censorship of music lyrics? Gay wedding cakes? Trans medical procedures? Family benefits for domestic partners? Why do you ignore all my examples and just proclaim conservatives will stand up for "whatever you want to do?" How about abortion? Are conservatives really "each his/her own?" No way. I think you're confusing conservatives with Libertarians. Either that, you're your joking.

GeneralTree May 07, 2021 01:29 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

VOR trying to argue that conservatives are anti-corporate - now that is rich. Thanks for the laugh :)

Conservatives are the queens of cancel culture. Yet they spin that in the media to say the other side are cancellers..... You guys are still undermining a legitimate election. Conservatives have cancelled the Lakers for Lebron James - cancelled the NBA for allowing BLM signage on court last year, cancelled any team where a member kneels for the anthem, they cancelled Nike over Kaepernick, cancelled Saturday Night Live, cancelled Beyonce, boycotted Target for allowing transgender bathroom arrangements, cancelled NASCAR for banning the confederate flag. Conservatives invented cancel culture - and Trump turned it into a political grenade. Conservatives ditched Taylor Swift for being a democrat (remember the Dixie Chicks in 03?). To name just a few.

Babycakes May 07, 2021 01:58 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

GeneralTree: I agree with you in part, but how does one explain that nearly 70% of those who have died from COVID are not conservatives or Republicans? It's interesting that those who are conservative/Republican are not the folks who are dying from this virus. Go figure.

GeneralTree May 07, 2021 02:56 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Babysnakes " It's interesting that those who are conservative/Republican are not the folks who are dying from this virus." Conservatives aren't dying from the virus? The decline of deaths in Democratic districts has outpaced the national average, decreasing from an average of more than seven new deaths per day in mid-April to about four new deaths per day in the second half of May.

During this same period, the number of new deaths in districts controlled by Republicans has remained relatively steady (an average of just under two deaths per day in GOP districts).

Hado_Ken_57 May 07, 2021 03:03 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

VOR -- they told me I should be thrown off a roof for my sexuality. Gave me a good laugh but still thats not differing from the " speech code " thats being an asshole. To be fair a lot of other conservatives I've met are if not chill then at least not actively homophobic but I've yet to meet a liberal who's made any sort of degrading comment like that.

sacjon May 07, 2021 12:17 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

SBSHORES - did you read the article you linked to?

" During this time, VAERS received 4,178 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has NOT ESTABLISHED A CAUSAUL LINK to COVID-19 vaccines. "

It's in bold actually. Yeah, 4000+ people died sometime after receiving the shot, but again...... NO CAUSAL LINK to show the deaths were CAUSED by the vaccine. Now, it does acknowledge the J&J vaccine has caused blood clots (nothing new there) causing some deaths. But... the 4178 who died and who had also been vaccinated did not die "from the vaccine."

sacjon May 07, 2021 01:08 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

VOR - oh stop it already. If you had multiple afflictions that you'd be alive with but for having COVID, then the cause of death was COVID. It's simple causation. If you were living with diabetes, then got COVID and were no longer able to breath and died, what killed you? COVID. Of those 4100+ deaths after vaccines, none were linked to the vaccine. Again, simple causation.

a-1620423225 May 07, 2021 02:33 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

12:58 - What a load of horsepuckey, as usual for you. If anything, COVID deaths here and worldwide have been vastly undercounted.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/06/994287048/new-study-estimates-more-than-900-000-people-have-died-of-covid-19-in-u-s

a-1620428011 May 07, 2021 03:53 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

SBSHORES is listening to the con disinfotainment channel:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/may/06/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlsons-misleading-claim-about-deaths-afte/

Shame May 07, 2021 08:10 AM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

We can all go back and forth on this subject all day. Let’s just understand it’s a personal choice and try not to divide our country anymore on this subject. It’s so sad to me to see family and friends fighting and actually avoiding each other over this.m

Ahchooo May 07, 2021 01:54 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Personal choice is good, until your choice endangers me. We do have some responsibility towards others. It may be your choice to drive 100 mph on the freeway, but it’s not allowed, for obvious reasons. The vaccine issue is more complex, and I wouldn’t force anyone to get it. But it’s fair to restrict un-vaccinated people from certain spaces, because if there are enough of them the virus could take off again. I don’t want my mom moving in to a retirement home where a significant percentage of residents and staff are not vaccinated, so I need to know who is and isn’t.

Voice of Reason May 07, 2021 04:41 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Ahchoo, but if you're vaccinated and your mom is vaccinated it shouldn't matter if you came across an unvaccinated person. If you follow the science that is, if you follow the psychology then sure continue to live in fear.

a-1620432195 May 07, 2021 05:03 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

4:41 - False again. You can still possibly be infected and spread the virus, and you can't know ahead of time how serious the infection might be, since so much depends on genetics and individual immune reactions.

Ahchooo May 07, 2021 08:34 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

The vaccines are not 100% guaranteed to protect against infection, and we don’t know for sure how long they last. Elderly people don’t always have great immune systems. You and others keep suggesting that pro-vaccine, pro-mask wearers are living in fear. I suppose some are, but most of us are not. We believe in taking precautions and moving forward. I’m advocating for everyone to be vaccinated. Never said I was gonna hide in my house if they don’t.

a-1620505313 May 08, 2021 01:21 PM
The GOOD Outweighs Concerns for COVID-19 Vaccination

Just more bogus social media disinformation from a ignorant vaccine refusers. The Nuremberg Code does not apply to the COVID vaccines, which are most definitely *not* experimental:

https://www.poynter.org/?ifcn_misinformation=facebook-and-instagram-posts-shared-thousands-of-times-claim-that-vaccines-directly-violate-the-nuremberg-code-a-set-of-research-ethics-principles-for-human-experimentation-established-after-world-wa

https://factcheck.afp.com/principles-nuremberg-code-are-compatible-vaccination

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/nuremberg-code-addresses-experimentation-not-vaccines/

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