Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

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The Santa Barbara County Public Health Department (PHD) stated 49% of residents age 16 and over have received at least their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

Approximately 23% of residents are fully vaccinated, "wonderful statistics to celebrate," said PHD Director Dr. Van Do-Reynoso in a recorded video.

She went on to state that vaccination is the best tool to stop the spread of the virus in the community as herd immunity will require about 80-90% of the population to be vaccinated. 

Santa Barbara County will be able to move into the orange tier on Tuesday if the COVID-19 case rate per 100,000 population remains under 6. As of Friday, the county case rate is 5.2.

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GeneralTree Apr 20, 2021 11:49 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Someone here a few months back said Hydroxychloroquine thoroughly prevents and cures COVID. Is that true? Asking for a friend.

GeneralTree Apr 20, 2021 02:58 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Bingo! Yet there were some here praising it only months ago. It confounds me that some have taken the misinformation and jumped the shark with it.

a-1618949074 Apr 20, 2021 01:04 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

It's absolute BS, as anybody who's been paying attention to medical topics would know. Same thing with ivermectin. Pushed by charlatans and quacks.

Alexblue Apr 21, 2021 06:25 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

VOR, your inability to track and remain consistent in your own statements is one hundred percent about you. Stop engaging in classic right wing victim
mentality.

Voice of Reason Apr 20, 2021 03:14 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

I'll give you one thing Alex, you sure can take a comment and spin it in a completely different direction. Are you at all interested in a career in journalism or politics? Seems to suit your skill set.

Alexblue Apr 20, 2021 02:27 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

LOL VOR. So you trust the citizenry to take responsibility but you think it’s right for the government to lie to them to protect them from the truth. Fail.

dukemunson Apr 20, 2021 02:06 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Do you mean New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Illinois and New Mexico? And what about Utah? Weren't you referencing their "death panels" in the Fall due to being open? Sure California is slightly lower than Florida...when you factor in the elder population in Florida though (and the fact that literally everything has been open there since Summer/Fall)...California isn't doing better. The same percentage of our 70+ residents died as Floridas...they just have more people 70+

a-1618949367 Apr 20, 2021 01:09 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

It's easy to see here:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days

In both cases per 100K and deaths per 100K (which you can also select), you can see that the do nothing states, say Texas and Florida as examples, are doing worse.

Voice of Reason Apr 20, 2021 09:49 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Letmego, are you saying that the citizens of Texas took responsibility for the own safety and acted in safe and responsible manner? That can't be, we need the government to do that for us....

dukemunson Apr 20, 2021 09:43 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Letmego- but two more weeks and it’s going to be doom... and then two more weeks... and then... and... ...

Ready to look at California’s response or... should we wait two more weeks...?

letmego Apr 20, 2021 09:24 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article250730594.html

"A mix of vaccinations, continued mask wearing, people already having immunity and the weather warming up has slowed down the spread, said Diana Cervantes, a professor of biostatistics and epidemiology at UNT Health Science Center."

"Cervantes believes, in general, most people have taken the virus seriously and not ditched safety measures. If anything, lifting the mask mandate made people want to be safer. On March 10, people didn’t immediately take off the masks and go back to pre-pandemic times, Cervantes said. Most large businesses like Walmart, Target, Kroger, HEB and others are still requiring mask and other coronavirus protocols."

sbdude Apr 18, 2021 08:05 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

@Chem: What does "hold accountable" mean? Send in the B-52s? Economic sanctions to our biggest trading partner? Send them the bill? And what, exactly, would holding them accountable do to increase the number of people getting vaccinated and stop the spread of this virus?

MarcelK Apr 18, 2021 09:44 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

One thing that could be done is to bring back the advanced warning system that Trump canceled. Quoting the L.A. Times: "Two months before the novel coronavirus is thought to have begun its deadly advance in Wuhan, China, the Trump administration ended a $200-million pandemic early-warning program aimed at training scientists in China and other countries to detect and respond to such a threat.

The project, launched by the U.S. Agency for International Development in 2009, identified 1,200 different viruses that had the potential to erupt into pandemics, including more than 160 novel coronaviruses. The initiative, called PREDICT, also trained and supported staff in 60 foreign laboratories — including the Wuhan lab that identified SARS-CoV-2, the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19.

Field work ceased when the funding ran out in September, and organizations that worked on the PREDICT program laid off dozens of scientists and analysts, said Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance, a key player in the program."

Basicinfo805 Apr 17, 2021 06:59 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

No Superfreak that won't work. Who is "we"? The US? Ridiculous idea. But YOU could go ahead and volunteer to be a peace corps volunteer in China if you want and then spearhead a grass roots campaign to alter the culture of the worlds most populous country, and see what sticks. Just make sure to report back to edhat when you have an update.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 17, 2021 06:33 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Maybe if we spent a bit more time holding accountable the people who are responsible for the initial outbreak, and less time criticizing those resistant to a life of indefinite vaccinations, and we won't find ourselves facing a similar mess in the near future.

Voice of Reason Apr 20, 2021 01:49 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

That's not what I said at all Alex. I only wrote a few sentences yet somehow your take away is that I think the virus is a hoax. No wonder you can't sort the information from the mis-information. Gotta keep that head in the sand!

Alexblue Apr 20, 2021 01:36 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

VOR—nice try. So you are saying that he was right to call coverage of the virus a hoax and to make a point of not wearing a mask which modeled behavior that contributed the deaths of many thousands of Americans.

Voice of Reason Apr 20, 2021 12:46 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Fact: per a recent Gallup poll 'What are the chances that someone who gets COVID will need to be hospitalized?' : 41% of Democrats thought it was over 50% Another 28% thought it was between 20% to 49%. So, almost 70% of Democrats are orders of magnitude off from the correct answer of 1-5%.

___With this FACT in mind, like him or not, he was right to downplay the severity of the virus in an attempt to avoid the extreme over reaction we experienced, especially here in CA, where we paid such a steep price for our chosen (forced upon by governor abusing his emergency powers) covid response with NO DISCERNABLE BENEFIT. Your, and many others hatred for the Orange Man, has drastically impacted your ability to think clearly and make rational decisions. Facts matter and they are not on your side, haven't been on your side for sometime.

Alexblue Apr 20, 2021 07:18 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Yes, Freak, hyperbole, like claiming someone was “banned” when they weren’t. You should really limit your comments to scientific nit-picking, that is until you learn how to communicate with a modicum of introspection.

a-1618916689 Apr 20, 2021 04:04 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

People who routinely exhibit egotism and gratuitous sociopathy, make absurd assumptions to construct straw man arguments, veer off on odd tangents when cornered, and assiduously cherry pick to reject data they dislike do not exactly radiate scientific integrity. The same goes for those whose contrafactual opinions are based on tribal social media under the guise of keeping an open mind.

a-1618916301 Apr 20, 2021 03:58 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

10:47 - Again demonstrating that you either have poor understanding of statistics, or very poor understanding of the English language.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 10:47 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

"a significantly higher proportion of B.1.351 was observed in FE cases vs. unvaccinated controls (OR of 8:1, one-sided exact McNemar test, p=0.02)."

8:1, FE (full effectiveness): unvaccinated.

You seem to have trouble understanding this study.

MarcelK Apr 19, 2021 09:55 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Data is not an argument, it must be interpreted, and doing so correctly requires certain kinds of knowledge. The arguments you make are not arguments made by the vaccine manufacturers ... they understand statistics. You think that if 8 times as many vaccinated people in a study are infected with the variant as the number of unvaccinated people, then one can extrapolate that to the population at large--even when the criterion of the study was that *everyone in the study was infected*. Anyone with a basic understanding of statistics (which is essential to do "real science") knows you can't do that, because the number of vaccinated infected people is much smaller than the number of unvaccinated infected people. Since the vaccine is less effective against the variant than the original strain, of course a sample of vaccinated infected people will be dominated by the variant, whereas among unvaccinated infected people the percentage of those with the variant will resemble that of the population from which the sample was drawn. You can't compare percentages--which is what you're doing if the size of the vaccinated and unvaccinated samples are the same--and conclude anything about absolute numbers. The fact is that far more unvaccinated people are infected with the variant than vaccinated people are ... the claim that 1/8 as many are is absurd and wrong.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 08:01 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

My hyperbole? Really? I'm not the one who had a full meltdown and got banned over an octopus. That was one for the books.

Alexblue Apr 19, 2021 07:55 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Freak, you’re just as anonymous as 6:31, unless the name on your CDL is Chemical Superfreak, which, considering your hyperbole and lack of rigorous thought outside of your narrow area of (self-proclaimed) expertise might not be a big surprise after all.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 07:11 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

06:31 PM - One thing we've learned over the past year is that you don't know the difference between stannum, stannic, stannous, finite vs. infinite potential energy wells, and science in general. Ever figure out those pesky oxidation states of the transition metals yet? You desperately want to run with the adults, but just can't quite keep up. I'd like to say that I admire your persistence, but you are too unsure of yourself and choose to hide your handle instead of confronting people in the open.

a-1618882263 Apr 19, 2021 06:31 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

3:01 PM - One thing we've learned over the past year is just how much you don't know, and refuse to learn, about viruses, epidemiology, and economics.

Alexblue Apr 19, 2021 04:47 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

VOrR—“nothing” could have been done differently by the WH to make a difference?

So you think that calling coverage of the virus a hoax and Trump refusing to wear a mask along with most of the WH leadership had no impact on behaviors by the US population?

Could honesty about the threat have made a difference?

Voice of Reason Apr 19, 2021 03:01 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Alex, one thing we've learned very well over the past year is how much we don't know about the virus. Nothing anyone else in the White House could have done would have prevented covid from spreading like wildfire throughout the US. Hindsight has showed us that the best we could have done is isolate and protect the elderly and at-risk (not throw covid positives into nursing homes, big oops there), kept schools open (failed), and provide the necessary resources to develop and distribute a vaccine as quickly as possible (success!). The fear mongering media (see Bill Maher's monologue from the weekend) and the the politicians (on both sides) knee-jerk responses, only made this much much worse.

a-1618865793 Apr 19, 2021 01:56 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

1:49 - Simple. You read the whole paper, and don't cherry-pick only what you want to see. To quote from the paper:
"Neutralizing activity against the B.1.351 lineage virus was robust at a geometric mean titer that was much higher than that obtained after one dose of BNT162b2, when strong efficacy was already observed in the C4591001 efficacy trial.1-3 T-cell immunity may also be involved in protection,4 and BNT162b2 immunization elicits CD8+ T-cell responses that recognize multiple variants.5 Ultimately, conclusions about vaccine-mediated protection that are extrapolated from neutralization or T-cell data must be validated by real-world evidence collected in regions where the SARS-CoV-2 variants are circulating."

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 19, 2021 01:49 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

How does one thoroughly refute data from the vaccine makers themselves? I guess you didn't read the publications. Too challenging?

Alexblue Apr 19, 2021 10:55 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

LOL, Freak, "we" spent a LOT if time holding people accountable for the initial outbreak, "we" tossed the orange administration on the dust heap of history where it belongs.

MarcelK Apr 19, 2021 10:19 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

Real scientists don't offer up silly quips when faced with a legitimate and thorough refutation. Pseudoscientists don't understand basic statistics; they can find papers but they can't understand them.

a-1618797833 Apr 18, 2021 07:03 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

I guess you're not too good at statistics. The study in Ref 3 you are basing your misinformation on had participants who were all infected, vaccinated or not. There were limited participants, especially because so few vaccinated people got infected. Because the variant can evade some of the antibodies produced by the vaccine, of course more of the vaccinated people (proportionally) who got sick had the variant. You're just spreading FUD.

A quote from an interview with Reuters by the authors: "The researchers cautioned, though, that the study only had a small sample size of people infected with the South African variant because of its rarity in Israel. They also said the research was not intended to deduce overall vaccine effectiveness against any variant, since it only looked at people who had already tested positive for COVID-19, not at overall infection rates."

No signs of ADE were seen. The paper hasn't been peer reviewed, either, so spreading fear is unjustified. What happened to your mantra of "peer reviewed, or you don't GAS"? I guess it's another manifestation of only seeing what you want to see.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 18, 2021 06:35 PM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

One of the hallmarks of Antibody-dependent enhancement (Ref. 1) is non-neutralizing antibodies. Pfizer acknowledges in a recent paper, titled "Neutralizing Activity of BNT162b2-Elicited Serum", that the antibodies from their vaccine are no longer neutralizing against the South African variant (Ref. 2). Now it seems that people given the Pfizer vaccine more susceptible to infection from the South African variant than people who never had the vaccine (Ref. 3). Taken together, this is a very bad sign, but go ahead and deny the science---including the science from Pfizer's own research.

(Ref. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement
(Ref. 2) https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2102017
(Ref. 3) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.06.21254882v1

a-1618793354 Apr 18, 2021 05:49 PM
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5:28 - You're still spewing that misinformation. There is no way the vaccines make it easier for you to be infected by variants. In vaccinated people who do manage to contract COVID, more of them proportionally get a variant because the vaccines are less effective against some variants. But, the overall proportion of people who get COVID if vaccinated is still less than 0.0005%.

ChemicalSuperFreak Apr 18, 2021 05:28 PM
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TARAS: I have not had the vaccine. I'm young, healthy and without any pre-existing conditions. Therefore I'd prefer to leave my allotment of the vaccine for those more at risk, particularly since it sounds like some people will be requiring at least three doses, plus boosters for variants, etc. I'm generous like that. So I'll wait, particularly since none of the vaccines are technically approved by the FDA for general use and I'm not interested in priming my immune system to be more easily infected by one of the more dangerous variants.

Taras Apr 18, 2021 11:23 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

CSF, Love your posts. On a personal note,(probably none of my biz) Have you had any Vax. I was fully vaxed ( Pfizer) a month and a half ago. No problems so far.

a-1618769600 Apr 18, 2021 11:13 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

8:37 - SARS-CoV-2 does not have a high rate of mutation, so you're misinformed right from the start.

8:49 - Social media is not a good source for information on this topic.

Channelfog Apr 18, 2021 08:37 AM
Santa Barbara County Nearly 50% Vaccinated

It would not be the first time that a virus escaped from a Chinese biolab. There is no conclusive evidence that this came from a lab other than its' extreme rate of mutation which is uncommon in nature. Wuhan Wet Market or Wuhan level 4 lab? My bet is on the lab.

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