Negligent Discharge of Firearm

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By Roger the Scanner Guy

Negligent discharge of a firearm in the 1000 block of Cliff Drive. SBPD is on the scene investigating.

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Roger Oct 29, 2020 02:57 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

This occurred about 2:45 Police responded to investigate. The owner of gun called in the accidental discharge. Things like this need to be investigated when they happen.

doulie Oct 29, 2020 08:38 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

A1604 - Unless you have specific information about this weapons discharge, how can you state it was due to "severe irresponsibility?" The only investigation needed is to determine how this discharge occurred, it was an accident and no one was injured. Might be more to this if CSI is being requested. We'll just have to wait for more information.

a-1604029400 Oct 29, 2020 08:43 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

It's called a negligent discharge for a reason. Nobody should be handling a firearm, let alone releasing the safety (if any) and pulling the trigger, without knowing whether it's loaded.

doulie Oct 29, 2020 09:21 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

A1604 - Again, unless you have specific/first hand information, what leads you to believe the trigger was pulled causing the weapon to fire? You have no clue as to the cause of the weapon discharging. The only "irresponsibility" I know for certain involves people commenting about the cause of the reported discharge without any verified information regarding this incident to support their comment.

a-1604032509 Oct 29, 2020 09:35 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Trigger pulled or some other cause like weapon put in oven don't matter to me. What matters was that it was negligent. People should not be negligent with weapons, nor handling loaded weapons with the safety disengaged or hammer on a chamber in a household environment.

Roger Oct 30, 2020 07:08 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

CSI Responds to almost every police call I really doubt there is anything more to this call but you can wait if you like...

Sail380 Oct 30, 2020 09:03 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Over 2 million first time gun owners since the first of the year. Thanks to the defund the police crowd, riots without police response and Biden's threat of more gun controls. Guns sales haven't been this strong since Obama was elected.

Roger Oct 30, 2020 09:12 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

I bought mine because of the Nazi's attempt take over of America..I guess we all have our reasons.

SBSBSBSBSBsb Oct 30, 2020 10:16 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

your right, people should not be negligent. Thats why they notified the police...

Sail380 Oct 30, 2020 06:26 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Soooo, using the same thought process, everyone who's ever been in a traffic accident should have there license suspended.
Think of the lives saved. We all know there are far more more vehicle deaths than guns deaths.
Actually its people driving cars that kill people because cars and guns cant do anything without help.

a-1604108595 Oct 30, 2020 06:43 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

You're way behind the times. Look at recent automobile death stats and compare to firearms deaths. Cars have gotten a lot safer. We haven't done anything about firearms. We have licensing and training to operate vehicles, as well, plus periodic testing. But, gun worshipers continue to swallow and spew the propaganda.

a-1604108917 Oct 30, 2020 06:48 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Since you'll probably just ignore looking it up:

Firearms deaths - 39,740
Automobile deaths - 36,120

Sail380 Oct 30, 2020 08:01 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

No gun worship, just counting way to save lives. How many repeat offenders are still driving while there enjoying the get out of jail free card!

Sail380 Oct 30, 2020 08:08 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

i looked it up. More than 1/2 the gun deaths are suicide. Its harder to tell how many car deaths are the result of suicide. Sadly a majority of those deaths would still be there without guns. People need to focus on the problem not the tool.

a-1604114869 Oct 30, 2020 08:27 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

But a large part of the problem *is* the tool. A tool optimized for killing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50292935

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/21/17028930/gun-violence-mass-shootings-us-statistics-charts

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/the-facts-on-mental-illness-and-mass-shootings/

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/9444417/gun-violence-mass-shootings-us-america

a-1604113659 Oct 30, 2020 08:07 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Just think how many more we could save by eliminating firearms from the general populace, then!

Sail380 Oct 30, 2020 09:04 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Unfortunately I don't believe it would be that many. How many suicides did we save by enclosing the tool on 154? Seems now we have the train as the next tool of choice.

a-1604118331 Oct 30, 2020 09:25 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

There is a lot of research showing that firearms are often used for preventable suicides, because they are so deadly and so readily available. People dissuaded from suicide, or happened to survive gunshot suicide attempts, overwhelmingly state that they wouldn't have tried if they had to consider another method, and taken more time to think. You cant read about it in the second link, to the BBC.

cwazny Nov 02, 2020 03:37 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Yes. That makes alot of sense. Take guns from the general populace. And, let the criminals with the illegal guns keep them. Brilliant!!!

Nextguyinline Oct 30, 2020 10:17 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

1604-
Look out you predjudice and ignorance are showing.
The term "Negligent discharge" is used in this case as a "Dispatching term" to differentitiate from an aggressive intentional discharge for the benefit of the responding and listening officers. (As in the subsequet case of a "person shooting in thee 4000 blk of State Street, which by the way is right at the jurisdictional boundries of the City and County, if you care.) The actual determination of whether it is actually "negligent" comes as the result of and AFTER the investigation of the evidence and facts, both of which you have chosen to launch yourself past to make you predjudicial comment due to your total ignorance of the facts. The simple fact that the weapon owner reported the "unintended discharge" (which by-the-way, is how it should have been dispatched to not be in a judgemental and predjudicial mind set.) suggests that the owner is trying to be responsible instead of trying to hide the fact that it happened.
If you don't like guns and don't want one then don't buy, own or get one. But don't use your biases to tell anyone else that they shouldn't own one. You and Beto simply want to totally ignore the 2nd Amendment because you don't like guns. Well lets apply that same thing to the 4th Amendment. I think you have stuff I don't like you to have in your home, like dope or I think you have someone else's property, so I, as a police officer am just going to walk into you residence anytime I want to and search and seize those things without a report, a search warrant or your permission. Unreasonable search and seizure. What is the difference? Oh yeah I get it... you like that Constitutional Right and protection, just not the other one! So do you get to chose or do I?

a-1604124099 Oct 30, 2020 11:01 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Well, that mostly looked like English.

I have firearms. I know firearms and firearm safety. Unintended discharge is negligence, pure and simple. And the second amendment is an anachronism referring to the establishment of a "well-regulated" militia. There's nothing well-regulated about the current gun worship insanity.

Sail380 Oct 31, 2020 09:54 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

How come nobody ever quotes the 2nd amendment after the punctuation mark?
“the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

dukemunson Oct 31, 2020 10:14 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

We already strongly infringe on the right to bear arms... Id in fact be in favor of infringing a little bit more!!!! Make guns are harder to get... and the guns you can get less powerful and less capable...

Sail380 Oct 31, 2020 10:50 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

I would be in favor of people that don’t like the United States constitution to move to a country that parallels there beliefs. Russia and China don’t allow firearms!! Oh wait a minute, the government’s there are not afraid of the peasants revolting against oppression, because there disarmed!!!

dukemunson Oct 31, 2020 11:33 AM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

The US constitution is great... but like another great document (the Bible) some of the things need to be viewed through a modern lens. We all accept and understand that people shouldn’t have fully automatic weopons, Grenades rocket launchers, etc...and that felons shouldn’t have legal access to firearms. Through most interpretations of the word that I can come up with, that’s sounds like “Infringing”... right? But we are mostly all OK with that, because, well... obvious reasons!!!

So... we are all OK with infringing
On that right to bear arms (and to bring it back to the Bible, with eating shell fish and that people can work on the Sabbath).

So, yeah... since we’re all OK with infringing on it already, it makes sense to me to infringe a little more! Not sure how or why that makes me any less American... to be honest people that look at the tens of thousands of shooting deaths per year in Americans don’t have a problem with that seem less American to me. Our strength and character As Americans is no way defined by our access to purchasing assault weapons... it actually diminishes it ...

a-1604176152 Oct 31, 2020 01:29 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

10:50 am: I propose you do some research into what the phrase "the people" meant in the colonies in the 1770s. It's not what you think.

cwazny Nov 02, 2020 03:50 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

You have firearms? May I come to your house and take them away? You must be part of the "gun worship" insanity!

dukemunson Nov 02, 2020 03:57 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Thank you for proving my point for everyone (OK all 14 people on EDHAT) to see. We obviously would be much better off if violence dreaming people like CWAZNY had less capable of mass killing weapons.

dukemunson Nov 02, 2020 04:00 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Yeah you shouldn't have assault weopons. Hopefully though we can get our act together as a country and take yours (along with everyone elses). People don't need fully auto...let's take that next step and scale down a bit further...

a-1604362540 Nov 02, 2020 04:15 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

By the way, it's "lobotomy". But we know your understanding of the constitution, firepower, and the language aren't the best.

doulie Oct 30, 2020 11:29 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

If we back up to the headline, it is wrong. Roger's first sentence regarding the headline reports "Negligent discharge of a firearm in the 1000 block of Cliff Drive." In the first paragraph of "Comments," second sentence, it is written "The owner of gun called in the accidental discharge." The headline did not identify the incident correctly as this incident was not reported as a negligent discharge but an accidental discharge. The error in wording caused 1604 to go into a rant about "negligent" handling of the weapon involved, suicides & gun deaths vs cars, etc. Don't need to make a mountain out of a mole hill 1604. It appears you spent time on research that really didn't apply. Do a little research in learning how to relax.

a-1604176014 Oct 31, 2020 01:26 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

Accidental discharge is negligence. If you don't think so, then please enjoy letting your three year old play with loaded firearms.

a-1604176288 Oct 31, 2020 01:31 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

A little history of the second amendment for you gun worship advocates:

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/sorry-nra-the-u-s-was-actually-founded-on-gun-control/

cwazny Nov 02, 2020 03:29 PM
Negligent Discharge of Firearm

I don't go to salon.com to educate myself on the Second Amendment. But, you just do you...

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