Are Parks Monitored?

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Does anyone know if law enforcement is monitoring public parks? This afternoon, Ortega park has been filled with people playing basketball and selling food. 

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loquat Mar 31, 2020 08:26 AM
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Contrary to the many opinions on this thread, here are some facts to answer your question. Yes, the City Parks Department has posted many signs throughout the parks system advising patrons to adhere to CDC and County Health guidelines. Yes, Parks are still being monitored by the handful of Park Rangers who are brave and deal with a lot of unpleasant situations so the rest of us can enjoy our city without fear. Yes, Skater's Point is now fenced-off. The skaters weren't self-policing, so the Parks Department had to step in and enforce for the safety of the public. Which brings me to my last point. If we could respectfully self-police each other then we wouldn't have to rely on authorities to act as arbitrators between us. We don't have to start fights when we ask our fellow citizens to disband, stop playing basketball, stop 15 person yoga groups at Shoreline Park, stop flooding specific areas (Harbor). With the kindness we expect from others we can communicate just how serious this pandemic is, and little by little most of us will see the light. 80% of us are thoughtful enough to take drastic measures. It's that 20% of the population who is prolonging our risk. I believe extreme kindness and truth is the best way to influence the 20% to join-in on the collective effort.

sacjon Mar 31, 2020 10:07 AM
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LOQUAT - I agree 100%, but non-contact exercise such as outdoor yoga is not a threat. I've seen groups doing this at the park near my home and they're all at least 10 feet away from each other, just doing their thing. No on is hugging or touching, just exercising outside at a respectable distance from each other. We should still be able to lawfully assemble, just not closely. I'd hate to see these people get targeted and harassed (more than they already have been).

Coolio Mar 30, 2020 04:00 PM
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The city really should have signs up at all the parks and beaches that say no groups larger than 5 people allowed and social distancing of at least 6 feet.

Shmonk Mar 30, 2020 02:24 PM
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monitored for what? They are not breaking any laws

sacjon Mar 30, 2020 03:32 PM
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PUG - only if that large group is made up of people from different households. People from the same house/family are allowed to be in public together.

sacjon Mar 30, 2020 03:25 PM
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SHMONK - I'm not asking for policing, just telling you what they've said. "Frequent violators of the shelter in place order could potentially be charged with a misdemeanor and in certain cases jailed, he stated. " ------https://www.edhat.com/news/public-health-confirms-24-coronavirus-cases-in-santa-barbara-county -------- Look, most of us understand how important it is to keep our distance now, but some just don't care. If the cops start ticketing "frequent violators," then great! BUT.... I do not think we need more policing. Just the ones who are blatantly violating the order repeatedly and without care for the rest of humanity.

Shmonk Mar 30, 2020 03:18 PM
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PUG - it is not illegal. And I am not clamoring for people to congregate in large groups, in fact it is very irresponsible. I have been home for weeks other than work. but I am not gonna ask police to intervene MORE than they already do

Shmonk Mar 30, 2020 03:17 PM
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No they won't. Stop asking for more policing, stop giving up your rights if you're doing nothing wrong

sacjon Mar 30, 2020 03:09 PM
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SHMONK - like a state that doesn't want to risk killing thousands more Americans by allowing a virus to spread though human interaction. It technically IS illegal in that it would be a violation of a government order. No, it's not illegal to just be outside (nor should it), but congregating in large groups with people from other households IS a violation of the order to shelter in place. The Sheriff can and will, for frequent violators, cite you.

Pugluvr1912 Mar 30, 2020 03:01 PM
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Right now it’s illegal to congregate in large groups

Shmonk Mar 30, 2020 02:55 PM
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like a police state? cited for something that isn't illegal?

sacjon Mar 30, 2020 02:49 PM
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SHMONK - while not a codified "law," there is an order in place to stay away from groups of other people. So, anyone doing so would be in violation of an order and can be cited.

PitMix Mar 30, 2020 10:55 AM
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This whole social distancing effort is to try to keep the number of critical cases down to below the number of ICU beds. Maybe it will be enough with all of the Darwin Award candidates vying for top honors.

sacjon Mar 30, 2020 01:39 PM
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PITMIX - thanks for the helpful info. Not sure why I have so many people "disagreeing" with my question asking for more info. Weird....

PitMix Mar 30, 2020 01:04 PM
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Sacjon, I think I had it and I self-quarantined for 14 days. I think most people that get sick are being responsible about it. It is the people that are asymptomatic and still being social that present a danger. But Dr. Atul Gawande from the New Yorker concluded from South Korean data that you had to be in close proximity to an infected person who wasn't sneezing or coughing for 30 mins or more before your risk of infection went way up.

sacjon Mar 30, 2020 11:12 AM
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PITMIX - I am 100% for social distancing, so don't get me wrong, but I think it would be helpful to know for sure if it's working. Were the people that are testing positive practicing social distancing and cleanliness? Would be helpful and interesting to find out!

LoveMySB Mar 30, 2020 10:12 AM
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Saturday at Ortega Park homeless all sitting together and one who has a 3-year stay away order from the park. Sunday at Ortega Park was full of people on the basketball courts & on the grass next to the basketball courts. This is irresponsible in these times of community spread of this virus. They are not only putting themselves at risk but others who use the playground equipment & the bathrooms.

RHS Mar 30, 2020 12:47 PM
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Lovemysb--your comments show how little "MY SB" includes the totality of the people living here. These people have no place to Shelter In Place and no ability to order meals delivered and such. They go to the park because that is their front room after sleeping in the corners. Yes, they should be doing what we all need to do but they have a lot more difficulty doing it than do most.

Pugluvr1912 Mar 29, 2020 08:22 PM
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On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog

AdamVant Mar 29, 2020 07:36 PM
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I am very happy that Hazel Burke and Gladys Kravitz are on duty.

pstarSR Mar 29, 2020 06:46 PM
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There was a post probably 10 down from this stating the city council is asking for more monitoring / enforcement at parks.

Pugluvr1912 Mar 29, 2020 06:28 PM
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

d8vanilla Mar 29, 2020 06:23 PM
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J.P. posted a picture a couple days ago, showing a bunch of teenage boys playing basketball at one of the Parks

a-1590963934 Mar 29, 2020 05:43 PM
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There were 32,000 people per day entering the US from China before this hit. https://www.statista.com/statistics/214813/number-of-visitors-to-the-us-from-china/ Where do we begin the debate 7436? Educated

Pugluvr1912 Mar 29, 2020 05:45 PM
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Identify people by time of post if they don’t have a handle on here

racjax Mar 29, 2020 04:48 PM
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I thought the skateboard facility was supposed to be closed. People there all the time. Looks like they tore the tape down that was strung across blocking the entrance.

Pugluvr1912 Mar 29, 2020 05:41 PM
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I’m 535. Don’t know why my handle was hidden.

a-1590963934 Mar 29, 2020 05:35 PM
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Please don’t make comments that could scare people who are already anxious enough

Pugluvr1912 Mar 29, 2020 05:52 PM
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We will. We just need to remind people to be careful.

a-1590963934 Mar 29, 2020 05:19 PM
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Sounds like we aren’t going to succeed in flattening the curve. Idiots.

a-1590963934 Mar 29, 2020 04:43 PM
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.....the woke and educated are the ones who brought this virus back to the good ol' USA...

Pugluvr1912 Mar 29, 2020 06:33 PM
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No one knows what 443/661 is talking about

Alexblue Mar 29, 2020 06:28 PM
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661, I literally have no idea what you are stalking about. Do you?

Shasta Guy Mar 29, 2020 04:41 PM
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Visitor to Parks with other people and any remaining gyms that are open are automatic Darwin Award nominees.

CoastWatch Mar 29, 2020 04:30 PM
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...we will ALL pay for the clueless and un-educated...

Minibeast Mar 29, 2020 04:00 PM
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Sorry to hear people still remain stupid about what's going on.

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