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So, you are now agreeing there has been a misrepresentation of the numbers. That was not what you were indicating in your earlier discussion of this matter. Not including information to an audience that knows their own salaries is not misleading the public. That is different. I have been a union rep as well and have an insiders understanding of our history and negotiations. What appears missing in your understanding of current negotiations, and your misunderstanding of the angst and reaction to the spin of numbers, is there is a history of this not being the case. Surely, given your experience, you understand that context is important, and without this institutional history that teachers in THIS district have, you might look at the district's proposal and their public relations campaign a little different. Your posts read like an essential "calm down." You may not have meant it that way, but that is how it came across to me reading it through my lenses. Teachers aren't really being asked to be paid "enough"--which is not even quantifiable--they are desperate to remain in their jobs made nearly impossible with the increase in the cost of living. When you know there was money there that could have been spent on salaries, the bare minimum of the budget is going toward teachers, and you are seeing increases in other budgetary expenditures, this makes for an incredibly frustrating context that I have not seen in 30+ years in the district. It is different than the "usual." The response of teachers is completely appropriate.
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I've been a union rep and on the other side of a bargaining table and I have followed these issues across the county especially in SBUSD and other areas. SBUSD is not unique. This same dance happens every year everywhere in coastal California. Teachers do not get paid enough and have to move - I did this myself many years ago. Currently, there are openings everywhere especially SPED - everywhere across the state. Teachers have to make concessions year after year because there is never enough money for all they want. And they fight over how deep in the reserves the board will go. If there ends up with higher than expected reserves, it gets spent the following year and temporarily fixes some things a little. Because of the budget unknowns this happens all the time so in a way, teachers get what the district can bear a year or two later. Unfortunately both sides are guilty of misrepresenting numbers here and there -(or maybe not completely explaining how they calculated their numbers). I've read what the union sent to members before negotiations and some of it was a little misleading. For example, they would cite admin pay and include the cost of benefits, but not include that when citing new teacher pay. None of that should be necessary because I think that everyone agrees that new teachers deserve more pay - 40k or 50k or 60k is still not a living wage here... The bottom line is that none of our teachers get paid enough and our districts are not sufficiently funded.
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So, you are now agreeing there has been a misrepresentation of the numbers. That was not what you were indicating in your earlier discussion of this matter. Not including information to an audience that knows their own salaries is not misleading the public. That is different. I have been a union rep as well and have an insiders understanding of our history and negotiations. What appears missing in your understanding of current negotiations, and your misunderstanding of the angst and reaction to the spin of numbers, is there is a history of this not being the case. Surely, given your experience, you understand that context is important, and without this institutional history that teachers in THIS district have, you might look at the district's proposal and their public relations campaign a little different. Your posts read like an essential "calm down." You may not have meant it that way, but that is how it came across to me reading it through my lenses. Teachers aren't really being asked to be paid "enough"--which is not even quantifiable--they are desperate to remain in their jobs made nearly impossible with the increase in the cost of living. When you know there was money there that could have been spent on salaries, the bare minimum of the budget is going toward teachers, and you are seeing increases in other budgetary expenditures, this makes for an incredibly frustrating context that I have not seen in 30+ years in the district. It is different than the "usual." The response of teachers is completely appropriate.
GoletaisGood on
I've been a union rep and on the other side of a bargaining table and I have followed these issues across the county especially in SBUSD and other areas. SBUSD is not unique. This same dance happens every year everywhere in coastal California. Teachers do not get paid enough and have to move - I did this myself many years ago. Currently, there are openings everywhere especially SPED - everywhere across the state. Teachers have to make concessions year after year because there is never enough money for all they want. And they fight over how deep in the reserves the board will go. If there ends up with higher than expected reserves, it gets spent the following year and temporarily fixes some things a little. Because of the budget unknowns this happens all the time so in a way, teachers get what the district can bear a year or two later. Unfortunately both sides are guilty of misrepresenting numbers here and there -(or maybe not completely explaining how they calculated their numbers). I've read what the union sent to members before negotiations and some of it was a little misleading. For example, they would cite admin pay and include the cost of benefits, but not include that when citing new teacher pay. None of that should be necessary because I think that everyone agrees that new teachers deserve more pay - 40k or 50k or 60k is still not a living wage here... The bottom line is that none of our teachers get paid enough and our districts are not sufficiently funded.

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