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Kitchen Aid
updated: Feb 20, 2012, 9:01 PM

We are remodeling our kitchen and looking for advice on appliances. We are on a budget and are interested in both the GE Profile line as well as Bosch. We are looking to purchase a refrigerator, dishwasher, 36" cooktop, double ovens and a warming drawer. Any suggestions? Or any feedback from anyone who owns appliances from these lines??

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 COMMENT 258249 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 02:29 AM

Without reservation, Bosch are the superior appliances. The dishwasher especially.
You might also want to look at Miele appliances.


 COMMENT 258250 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 04:59 AM

We LOVE our Bosch dishwasher! It not only gets the dishes spotless, but it's so quiet you don't even know when it's running. We priced locally, but bought it at Lowe's in Ventura, due to a savings of around $100 by doing so. On the downside, I understand that the Bosch is VERY expensive to work on, and that some local repair places won't go near them. I don't know if that's true, but I've heard it more than once.


 COMMENT 258252 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 06:52 AM

I've had a Bosch Dishwasher for about 8 years now. Put it in when we remodeled our kitchen. Not one problem with it ever, super quiet, gets the dishes really clean and glasses spot free (even with Goleta Water).
Money well spent for sure.


 COMMENT 258253 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 06:55 AM

I bought all new appliances when remodeling about 8 years ago. My Bosch dishwasher is still going strong and we use it all the time. My fridge was a GE and was a constant problem. I finally replaced it last year after constant problems and tons of ruined food. I researched online and it seems I wasnt the only one having problems with GE appliances. I will avoid GE appliances at all costs from now on.


 COMMENT 258256 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:02 AM

Be american, BUY american


 COMMENT 258257 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:07 AM

I'd love you to buy American, but what you should do is buy the best appliances that you can for the money that you want to spend. Consequently, we would NEVER buy GE anything anymore. Our Bosch dishwasher works quietly and flawlessly without concern or worry. Our GE stuff is always on the blink and will eventually be replaced with a better line.


 COMMENT 258259 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:12 AM

Read Consumer reports - don't take it as Absolute Truth, but at least read it. Bosch is great when their stuff works - sadly, a number of their models have been poster children for unreliable. I have seen a number of people pay a premium for Bosch, and the quiet, style, and energy efficency they provide. Some did great, some were repeatedly saddled with outlandishly expensive repairs that didn't last. You will never save enough energy to cover the price premium, and if you have one major repair, it will cost you more than a whole new appliance of a mundane but reliable brand - choose wisely


 COMMENT 258261 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:14 AM

When I was out replacing my dishwasher, I looked and found that Bosch and Kitchenaide were the best two brands, and two repairment told me they'd go with Kitchenaide, as they're easier to work with.

So, bought the kitchenaide and love it. It's super quiet, very efficient, and blends right in.

Check out Kitchenaide stuff for your kitchen. It's great.


 COMMENT 258264P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:24 AM

You definitely get what you pay for in the appliance world, having had low end, and now, higher end stuff. We remodeled our home back in 1995 and went with Dacor cooktop and oven...both still going strong. We finally did replace our dishwasher awhile back and went with the Bosch. It has worked great so far, and as others have said, it's super quiet, but more importantly, gets the dishes super clean. The one appliance decision that nearly caused a divorce was the fridge... I got what I wanted...the Sub-Zero! Yeah, it was ungodly expensive, but it just is the best, love it.


 COMMENT 258266P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:35 AM

We checked out Consumer Reports too and ended up with a Bosch convection oven and a Bosch dishwasher. They've been installed for just over two years and no problems with either. The dishwasher is very quiet; the oven is wonderful (but it's the first electric one I've owned and I had trouble at first remembering to hit the Start button after I'd set the temp, not to mention getting used to the control panel - I have to keep the Owner's Guide handy, but you can't seem to avoid that these days - everything is electronic).

FYI, we also bought a KitchenAid (gas) cooktop, which is wonderful, and a Panasonic microwave and no problems with either of those. We didn't replace the fridge.

Re Made in America, this is something we researched. Some appliance models are made in China; others in Canada and I've heard - no proof at all - that the latter are the better models. I do believe Bosch is now made in South Carolina. My sister in Europe said she's heard the European-made Bosch's aren't as problem-free as in the past, but she's talking 20-odd years ago and I'm not sure anything is made to last 20 years anymore. If you're wondering about origins, get a knowledgeable salesperson.

Good luck!


 COMMENT 258273P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:52 AM

Bad experiences with Kitchenaid gas ranges, read the internet before you buy anything. Also very important, buy from a store that does not set you up with out of town warranty providers - Reids has a very unsatisfactory setup and no customer service for problems. We had to have someone come from either SLO or the San Fernando Valley, a real pain and they couldn't fix the range, a high end piece of junk.


 COMMENT 258275 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:02 AM

Dacor products are made in American - California as a matter of fact! I think their cooking appliances are superior. I think one mistake people make when buying all new appliances is getting stuck with the idea that they need to buy a 'suite' of the same brand. My suggestion is do your homework, select appliances for use and location (drawer m/w and d/w are now within reason - and what about the fume hood?) and simply select a common finish.

Check out Decor for cooking appliances. They have a very friendly website (I've been there because I'm looking for a new range too!). Good luck and have fun. A new kitchen? Yahoo!!!! :D


 COMMENT 258278P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:09 AM

We had to replace most of our kitchen appliances about a decade ago. We went to Sears, and the very young woman (~18) who was working there at the time was awesome. She educated us about the differences in models and prices; we chose wisely based on her knowledge, and have been very happy. Of course, she was so awesome that I'm sure she moved on long ago.

It was really helpful and surprising to us that we just asked, "Is there someone here that could explain the differences in the various dishwashers? What the different models and features are, and why some cost twice as much as others is fairly confusing." You can tell who knows their stuff and who's just a clerk. Ask the folks who are supposed to know. You may be pleasantly surprised.

[I asked her how she learned all this. She said that when no one was there needing help, she read all the manuals so that she could do her job better. It gave me great hope that some young kids still get what a job is.]


 COMMENT 258280 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:21 AM

In 2009, we purchased new kitchen appliances. Consumer Reports was our guide for reliability, and price was one of our deciding factors.

Our Kenmore dishwasher was rated #1 by Consumer Reports and was purchased from Sears. It is dependable and does a great job on getting dishes and glassware clean with no spots, but is noisier than a Bosch, our friends say. Our friends with a Bosch have already had to service theirs.

Our Kenmore Elite fridge was purchased at Sears and is just the right size--22 cubic feet is enough for our family.

We have a GE Profile range, a GE stove, and a GE microwave oven. The stove needed a new circuit board at installation, but all GE products operate perfectly now.

All appliances are in stainless steel, so there was no problem mixing products.


 COMMENT 258281 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:24 AM

@256 - That sort of patriotism is great, until you look deeper and see that GE is one of the biggest tax scofflaws in the country...Between subsidies, incentives and sleazy offshore tax dodges, they actually receive more tax dollars from the Feds than they pay in taxes (which is $0)


 COMMENT 258282 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:29 AM

Bosch! We bought their stove and are buying their dishwasher. Their diswashers are known for being quiet. Most models have the controls on the top edge out of the way of children's fingers. One model is prepared for slide in wood to match your cabinets. One model has 2 drawers for running mini loads. We wanted to buy local. Warehouse Discount Center was willing to match Lowe's prices.


 COMMENT 258284 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:37 AM

Went through 2 GE washing machines in 4 years, one of them had the transmission replaced twice... won't buy them again....


 COMMENT 258288 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:46 AM

I have multiple houses with Bosch, KitchenAid and JennAir brands. Among dishwashers, Bosch is the clear favorite since it's so quiet (JennAir a close second).

I absolutely love my JennAir fridge with the freezer on the bottom.

And Dacor is my favorite stove through JennAir is good too.


 COMMENT 258289 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:47 AM

I agree about not needing to buy all appliances of the same brand. When we remodeled our kitchen five years ago we went with a Wolf 5-burner gas cooktop, Dacor electric oven, Miele dishwasher, and Maytag refrigerator. I love all of them!
All are in stainless steel, and one concern was if the finishes and handle styles were compatible so it wouldn't look like a hodge-podge. As it happened, the particular models that I picked of each all had very similar clean line handle styling and the stainless finish matched very well.


 COMMENT 258291 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 08:49 AM

Bosch all the way, especially with dishwashers. I've closed the book forever on GE, Kitchenaid, Jenn Air, Amana. From now on it is only Bosch.


 COMMENT 258295P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 09:01 AM

I agree with buy American......but what dishwashers are made here.? (I know Viking stoves are - but do they make a dishwasher?) Is GE made here? I've had a GE stove and refrigerator for about ten years - they are fine. Bought a Bosch dishwasher for my daughter - it is AMAZING considering the amount of use it gets.


 COMMENT 258300 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 09:32 AM

I have had horrible experiences with Kenmore dishwashers, refrigerators and washing machines. Worst stuff on the market. Go Bosch


 COMMENT 258301P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 09:36 AM

Bought the Bosch dishwasher two years ago and it's super-quiet. Never a problem.


 COMMENT 258304 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 09:57 AM

We remodeled about five years ago and bought all GE Profile appliances: Gas range, range hood, garbage disposal, dishwasher, microwave, electric convection wall oven. We love them all!


 COMMENT 258334 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 11:04 AM

Bought Bosh dishwasher about 6 years ago also took SEARS service warrantee. Pleased with both.

Bought GE Profile frige and stove. Not so crazy about them. Refrigerator has lots of plastic separators that are worthless. Also bought the Pacific Sales warantee which doesn't cover a lot of things.


 COMMENT 258335 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 11:07 AM

Bosch dishwasher is the best we have ever had. Performs flawlessly and is very quiet. GE side by side stainless refridgerator is a piece of crap. The automatic ice maker quit after about a year. The freezer takes three days to freeze ice cubes and it regularly defrosts and refreezes food. Stupid shelving too. The fridge side is adequate, but not spectacular. Our Frididare that we had previously was better designed and performed better.
GE range is excellent, except two of the burners seem to be clogged and there is no way to clean them. The one very large burner is excellent and the low low setting on all of the burners is very handy. The double oven is very handy and works fine.


 COMMENT 258431P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 03:16 PM

We were in the appliance business for years, selling GE / Hotpoint exclusively. Twenty-some years later, I will no longer have a GE product if I can help it. Bought a GE fridge a few years ago and the mother board crashed and we lost everything. Twice since then, we've had problems. Same with a relative - GE fridge leaked and destroyed two levels of his home, wood floors and everything in between while he was out of state. Will go with KitchenAid next time. Superior product these days.


 COMMENT 258465 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 04:34 PM

We bought our Bosch dishwasher shortly after we moved into our house in 1995 !!! We've never had a problem and never had it serviced.

We have hard water so we run CLR thru it every other month and I found that using the Cascade packs works best to get the glassware spotless.

After 17 years it does make a little bit of noise when running but it's still quieter than a lot of new washers and works like a charm.... unlike the Sears refrigerator and washer/dryer that we have had to replace in the same time frame.

I believe I read something that Vikings are made in America, just an FYI.

Happy remodeling!


 COMMENT 258473 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 04:55 PM

I like my new KitchenAid, as it's very quiet and seems to clean well, but am disappointed that no brands feature dials anymore that you can skip ahead or have some control over the settings. Dials also let you know where you are in the washing process. It's frustrating to not know if you are on wash or rinse, or how near the end you are.


 COMMENT 258514 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-21 07:39 PM

OP here, thanks for all the advice! Sounds like Bosch it is!! Any referrals for installation???


 COMMENT 258572P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-22 07:45 AM

266P here again: We bought our appliances at Sears; they installed them.

(Re another post about Viking, Consumer Reports consistently says that spending more doesn't necessarily correlate with better quality.)


 COMMENT 259551 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-02-25 10:45 AM

We put in all GE Profile appliances, and without exception they all have been endless problems. Never again!



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