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updated: Dec 15, 2011, 7:18 AM

Back in the 70's there was La Belle Modeling Agency that provided classes for girls in make-up application, hair styling, fashion and self-esteem. Does anyone know if there is anything like this now in SB? Any recommendations for local make-over type experiences for young ladies? Cosmetic counters offer advice, but that's usually motivated by sales.

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COMMENT 241134P	2011-12-15 07:43 AM
It's really challenging for me to believe that any modeling agency can teach girls anything about self esteem. Self esteem is not tied in to fashion, hair styling, and makeup. It's all about what is on the inside and has nothing to do with what you look like, what you want to look like, or how others want you to look.
COMMENT 241139P	2011-12-15 08:03 AM
I have been wondering too, if there is a place in SB that teaches girls social graces, how to walk, fashion, make-up, and the like. Is there a place?
COMMENT 241144	2011-12-15 08:25 AM
134P yeah try selling that version to an overwieght girl with glasses and last years fashion.....in this town. You must be joking!? Self esteem in Santa Barbara for girls has "EVERYTHING" to do with fashion, makeup and mirroring the models in the windows of the Paseo Nuevo Mall. Funny double standard you have there 134P.
COMMENT 241145	2011-12-15 08:26 AM
Self esteem can't be taught in a class and especially through a make-over. If your girl is old enough for make up and has low self esteem, you have not fulfilled your role as parent.
COMMENT 241146	2011-12-15 08:28 AM
Ahhh... welcome to superficial Santa Barbara.
COMMENT 241156	2011-12-15 08:41 AM
Cdec Accademy 805-706-0083 http://www.cdecacademy.com/contactus.html
COMMENT 241159	2011-12-15 08:46 AM
Not quite sure if this is what you're looking for, but cotillion classes can be great for teaching etiquette and social graces. I believe Martine Cotillion does classes in SB. Sephora might be a good place for make up... they'll do a make over if you buy at least $50. They have lots of brands so it might be better than your typical make up counter.
KIDS	2011-12-15 08:49 AM
Right on 134P!
COMMENT 241164	2011-12-15 08:59 AM
Any local bar during starting at happy hour and ending aroung 2 am.
COMMENT 241166	2011-12-15 09:01 AM
Ask one of the many Nanny's you will find picking up the kids from school . Heck they teach most of the young girls everything else. Mom's too busy at the club, or spa, or mall. Yes sir 146.....Santa Barbara: where down really deep, most of the locals are rather shallow!
COMMENT 241169	2011-12-15 09:02 AM
ONly ugly people convince themselves that self esteem has nothing to do with looks. Physical attractiveness is hugely validated in every culture. Ugly people or even just moderately unattractive people are not. For women unattractiveness is never overcome just substituted for. Just because someone wants to believe otherwise does not make it so. To teach your children otherwise is a lie and also is just trying to get them comfortable with their lack of physical gifts. Thus robbing them of self care that would enhance their given attractiveness--which does make a difference as people respond to them more positively and they do receive more of everything including job offers. Everyone can do something to enhance their physical gifts no matter what they have been born with.
COMMENT 241174	2011-12-15 09:13 AM
I take exception 166 with your characterization of locals here in SB being shallow. I am not from Santa Barbara, and I am extremely shallow also. Its not just the locals. A lot of us come here to Santa Barbara to fit in. The way to do that is to model Hollywood and have serious discussions on blog sites like this with the Original Poster's questions and people like you, people like us!!. I feel so at home here. Everywhere else in this country Narcissism is a disease and something to be in therapy for. In Santa Barbara its the lead in coffee clatch conversation starter! It goes like this: "But enough about me...what do you think about me?" Gosh isn't it great to be me! I found this great nanny that will raise my kids for me, and I never have to be bothered. Lucky me! And I don't care what it costs! Wow. How cool is this place!
COMMENT 241191P	2011-12-15 09:54 AM
Thank you, OICU81 for the Cdec Accademy information. Sounds good. Thank you, ...159 for telling about Martine Cotillion. Both good suggestions. I wish to help a girl know how to conduct herself with grace and confidence. Nordstrom will help definitely with make-up.
COMMENT 241195P	2011-12-15 09:56 AM
Teenager girls who learn a bit about makeup, hair styling, and how to dress nicely feel more confident. I'm in my late 50s, and am an intelligent feminist, outdoors woman, and career woman in diverse but demanding fields. I try not to judge people by their looks, but the reality is that we do. Women especially, in all cultures, feel better about themselves if they know how to look good according to that culture's standards. I don't regard it as a non sequitur that I took a "Wendy Ward" (Montgomery Wards) fashion class with my girl scout troop in my teens. It taught me a bit about the things the poster is asking about, and I felt more attractive and self confident as a result. It's just part of being a well informed, well rounded adult. Unfortunately, I don't have a reference for you at this time, in this town, but I wish you luck in finding such a class. It is a good idea, and it does help teens feel more confident.
COMMENT 241199	2011-12-15 10:08 AM
I am happy to inform all you all that the world is a superficial place. Get over yourself. Santa Barbara is just another beautiful place geographically. Jealousy is such and unattractive feature.
AQUAHOLIC	2011-12-15 10:14 AM
I can also recommend the Martine Cotillion, and not just for girls. Our son attended for two years ( I was hoping for longer) and learned a great deal about how to conduct himself with grace in the world, how to speak to adults, how to treat girls with respect and the added bonus of how to dance! Highly recommend this experience for girls and boys. I learned self esteem not from fashion, make-up and the like, but from my Mother and Father, who encouraged me to never accept less because of my gender. I went on to work in a field that was and is dominated by men, gaining respect from my peers through hard work and intelligence. Set the example, and good luck!
COMMENT 241202	2011-12-15 10:16 AM
Yeah, you get treated better if you are defined as attractive, and what's attractive is determined by the values of society and one's peer group. For some, being neat and clean and toned and well coordinated is "it" and makeup would be seen as unattractive. (Think womens' swim teams, yoga fanciers or soccer teams or triathletes.I know there are athletic women who like makeup so no need to write and tell me.) For others, certain clothing styles, hair style and make up are important. Offering a make-over to a girl who feels just fine about herself but doesn't conform to her mother or aunt's beauty standards is just plain mean, so I hope the poster won't offer unless she is sure the girl wants it.
COMMENT 241206	2011-12-15 10:18 AM
Well then thanks to 199 I am now informed. Here I was thinking the world was deep and rich and fertile with thoughts ranging the broad spectrum of all colors. But no. I was mis-informed. I have been rightfully chastised. 199 thank you. Suddenly I feel jealous. And by doing so, I now know that I am unattractive. Hmmm. Does anyone know where I can get some self esteem "booster" because my world as I thought I knew it, has just come crashing down all around me? I feel so all alone. Wow. Can some one just hold me?
COMMENT 241208	2011-12-15 10:24 AM
I just wanted to address the self-esteem thing. I was horribly self-conscious as a teen. Chubby, taller than everyone else and quite shy – and took TONS of teasing from the other kids. I can you tell you that only one thing pulled me out of that funk and that was sports. I found out that I was strong, coordinated and quite competitive. THAT is what gave me confidence and self-esteem. Not fashion, makeup or trying to fit in. I’d encourage any young girl to get involved and get active!
COMMENT 241209	2011-12-15 10:27 AM
When my daughter was in junior high, Avon taught classes to teens and had a teen facial line. Now the Avon line "Mark" covers makeup, fashion, skincare, etc. I would recommend contacting the local Avon office. Oh, and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the original poster requested information about a specific service, not your personal opinions and judgments. I rarely even pay attention to comments anymore on Edhat because so many are mean-spirited and judgmental.
COMMENT 241219P	2011-12-15 10:44 AM
Nordstroms have an excellent beauty section with qualified experts ready to help the young and the not so young. Try this for the cosmetic application question. As an ex-photography model I feel awkward buying make up now because I know a 77 year old is a challenge to work with and young faces are much more fun and rewarding! However, in my experience I did learn two golden rules for all ages. They are: less is more and pay extra careful attention to detail. Self esteem is a hard one and one would be advised not to read some of the remarks on this thread! Build up a small support group of your peers and experiment together. One can also check out books from the Library on health and beauty, and search online.
COMMENT 241223	2011-12-15 10:52 AM
Like you 208 I was the ugly duckling and was horribly self-conscious as a teen. My self esteem came from dancing, all kinds too. I eventually becaame an exotic dancer and got the best training I could from all the other girls who worked at the local strip clubs from where I grew up. Made tons of money and always knew how to handle men. My two cents worth would be to teach here to dance. And I do mean dance! She'll always be a hit wherever she goes!
COMMENT 241225	2011-12-15 10:54 AM
I have to totally agree with what 208 posted. If this girl WANTS to learn "social graces" and "make-up application" great - then find something along those lines for her, but to really address the self esteem issue (which is common for ALL teens - boys and girls, popular or not) - she needs to find her outlet - something positive she is good at and enjoys - then you can embrace that as a parent and she'll gain tons of confidence. Sports are an excellent outlet. But so is singing or playing instruments or volunteering with other teens for a good cause. She needs something where she can interact with peers with similar interests aside from school. I'm sorry if this is off topic from what the OP is asking, but I know how hard it is to be a teen girl and all the make-up in the world can't change a person true insecurities. But take my opinion with a grain of salt...that's all it is, just an opinion. My intention is not to bash at all...
COMMENT 241226	2011-12-15 10:55 AM
169's comment is way off base. Nobody is talking about beauty being the ONLY aspect of a young woman's self-esteem. But it's a rite of passage to learn how to put makeup on and groom yourself that is a very real part of life in our culture. There's certainly nothing wrong with wearing makeup and experimenting with your own style. Girls learn this as they grow up and it's a great time for them to bond with each other and learn from older women in their lives, too. THAT is where the self esteem and growth potential comes into play. It's about more than makeup. I find it so ironic that you're accusing people of being shallow but you can't see beyond your own pre-concived notion of what this request was about. @219p- I disagree. I would rather work on a 77 year old face any day! :)
COMMENT 241232	2011-12-15 11:07 AM
Parenting. Why outsource something like this? You will be missing out on time and experience with your kids.
COMMENT 241234P	2011-12-15 11:13 AM
226 Thank you. Now there is a remark to build up my esteem :-) 219P
COMMENT 241236P	2011-12-15 11:20 AM
Wow. I should have left the "self esteem" part out. I'd rather my daughter learn how to apply make-up correctly rather than the gothic look so many take on. Didn't mean to touch such a sore spot for so many and create a philosophical debate. My daughter and I occasionally watch the show "What Not to Wear" and enjoy it. We hike, go to the Y regularly, she plays volleyball... It's not a self esteem issue. I remember enjoying classes at La Belle as a teen and was hoping for some similar experience for her. I would appreciate recommendations for a service rather than being bashed as a parent.
COMMENT 241237	2011-12-15 11:25 AM
For the make up thing though - usually make up artists will do this for a fee. It's a fun thing for birthday parties and other events. Is there Cotillion in Santa Barbara? That's where i learned everything although I've forgotten it all.
COMMENT 241238P	2011-12-15 11:36 AM
Parenting? Hmn. My father hated red nails so I painted the polish on after leaving home in the evening. Before walking through the door on my return I removed the polish with the pungent remover my very patient escort kept in his glove box,along with the matching red lipstick and gold hoop earrings my father said made me look like a gypsy ( I was not allowed to have my ears pieced either! ) Just thinking about this decades ago post and anti night out ritual of an eighteen year old, in the name of vanity and rebellion,is exhausting.
COMMENT 241239	2011-12-15 11:38 AM
236P I commend you at being so present in your daughter's life and guiding her to her best. Sounds like you are an awesome Mom who has your daughter's back. Kudos to you!
COMMENT 241242P	2011-12-15 11:49 AM
I second this 239. Noting the barrage of harrrowing and negative posts: I was attacked mercilessly in the past for simply trying to respond sensibly to a cry for advice and help. Since then I have almost given up reading the column.
COMMENT 241243	2011-12-15 11:54 AM
Barrage?? Harrowing?? Negative?? Taking things a little personally are we? Maybe a real coffee clatch at your kitchen table would be a little less Harrowing and negative. Powdered sugar on the lady fingers really helps bring out the "oh you poor thing".
COMMENT 241244P	2011-12-15 11:57 AM
There is a lot of pressure out there for young girls to be other than "young girls". Sometimes just the example and presence of mother or parents does not keep a child from becoming other things. And no parent should be looked down upon for seeking out help with anything in regards to their children. As the saying goes - it takes a village. Kudos to this parent for wanting his/her daughter to have experiences and knowledge about what to do and how to behave other than from their peers at school. I wish I did know of a good one. I learned most of my "stuff" from a combo of female family members (including grandmas) and the Girl Scouts. that was about 25 years ago though..not sure what they are taught now. Good luck!
COMMENT 241247	2011-12-15 12:06 PM
Annnnd 243 is a perfect example of how not to behave.
COMMENT 241251	2011-12-15 12:15 PM
All I can say is "Wow." To ALL of you.
PIERHEAD	2011-12-15 12:26 PM
I'm surprised no one mentioned an excellent local program offered by Girls Incorporated of Santa Barbara. The following Girls Bill of Rights is featured on their webpage: http://www.girlsincsb.org/ Girls have the right to be themselves and to resist gender stereotypes. Girls have the right to express themselves with originality and enthusiasm. Girls have the right to take risks, to strive freely, and to take pride in success. Girls have the right to accept and appreciate their bodies. Girls have the right to have confidence in themselves and to be safe in the world. Girls have the right to prepare for interesting work and economic independence. When I ran the Angler Center at Goleta Pier I had a chance to observe them on fishing excursions several times and I can vouch for their poise and self-confidence.
COMMENT 241262	2011-12-15 12:36 PM
Self esteem is about feeling confident in your own skin. Whether you go natural or with makeup. You wont see me a single day without my makeup on, and that is not because I have low self esteem. It is because I thoroughly enjoy the process of applying it and creating art. I am an aspiring makeup artist who would love to help young girls with the art of makeup. If you have any questions feel free to send me an email. FancyMatter@live.com There is also the CdeC Academy in Santa Barbara. Here is the link http://cdecacademy.com/ I do not have personal experience with this company, but it seems to be exactly what you are looking for.
COMMENT 241270	2011-12-15 01:12 PM
I guess Pierhead didn't get the memo on the facts that it is no longer girls that need support in education it is the boys. So much time and attention has been put towards 'girls' that boys have been shuttled to the back of the bus. By the way girlsinc should also include girls have the right to be addressed as women and young ladies. Calling them girls is all we need to know about this site. all people have those rights by the way. boys, young men, men, different races. you name it.
COMMENT 241285P	2011-12-15 01:55 PM
243 would clearly benefit from a cyber etiquette course.
COMMENT 241291	2011-12-15 02:26 PM
Jeez everybody, it was a simple question- Not everything needs to be politicized and argued on edhat!
COMMENT 241316	2011-12-15 03:59 PM
Good question. I am 75 and I really did not have to worry about makeup as I went to an all girl's school and we downplayed the cosmetics, but were VERY careful to apply properly for dates and proms. Most of us chose a "natural" look. But we were clean, stood tall, spoke correctly and watched others for clues to looking good. But my daughter had a facial hemangioma and it was necessary to teach her at a young age to apply makeup. Why? Because children are cruel. We let her pursue her many temporary goals or desires, dancing, acrobatics, ice skating and modeling as a child. (Rosemary Cruz was great to help the girls with cosmetics and self esteem).
COMMENT 241319	2011-12-15 04:06 PM
Spearmint Rhino
COMMENT 241330	2011-12-15 04:26 PM
Congratulations 319. You went straight past distasteful, right into misogyny. Nicely done. Remind me never to let you around my girls.
COMMENT 241373	2011-12-15 05:37 PM
actually 319 that was pretty funny. Have a sense of humor 330. All people appreciate a little laughter now and then. Even and sometimes especially when it borders on tasteless. Laughter and irony make the world go around and sometimes have a bit of truth in it all.
COMMENT 241376	2011-12-15 05:38 PM
373, I have an excellent sense of humor. It doesn't involve anything a 12 year old boy would find funny, though. Sorry!
COMMENT 241406	2011-12-15 07:17 PM
312 it is not only NOT ridiculous it bears out in fact. The research is finding that young men and boys are falling way behind and are not getting ahead in school or in college because they don't have a lot of the support etc that young women and women have. Look it up if you don't believe me. Unless of course you find documented facts and research to be ridiculous.
COMMENT 241408	2011-12-15 07:27 PM
That's simply not true 406. And it's sad you would use a thread about young women to be a Men's Rights Activist.
ZENYATTA19	2011-12-16 12:52 AM
I went to La Belle in 1984. I begged my parents to send me because it seemed so glamorous. It was much more. I learned valuable life lessons that I still refer to today. So many of today's youth can use a few lessons in poise and manners. It's not all about make up and clothes, but first impressions are. If you carry yourself well you will go much further in life.
COMMENT 241457	2011-12-16 06:59 AM
You know, a cotillion class long ago would have helped me a lot throughout life. I don't really care about make-up, but it would be nice to know how to use all that fancy silverware at fancy parties, how to bow to the queen (you never know when that will come up), how to introduce yourself, dance (formally), that sort of thing. I often feel like a bit of a bumpkin.
COMMENT 241462	2011-12-16 07:27 AM
I think a young girls self esteem comes from doing things with her father, just the two of them. Mom to of course, but little girls love their daddies and being able to do something that belongs just to the two of them really makes a difference. Regarding makeup, take her to a MAC store and have them show her how to apply makeup.
COMMENT 241475	2011-12-16 07:58 AM
Self-Esteem is a life long class taught to you by your parents.Nothing starting in your teen years can make up for not having that support that begins as soon as you try to walk , or before !
COMMENT 241487	2011-12-16 08:26 AM
SB Hikes, a lot of adults (parents) watch the cotillion and the "tips" are there to be heard, loud and clear. The kids are down on the dance floor and the adults are up on a kind of mezzanine. I see no reason an adult who stays out of the way could not be there and get the etiquette tips. There are a lot of places where you could learn social dance, including the rec department ballroom dance classes. Cotillion is at Rockwood and the next are Feb 9 and March 15. Don't wear denim; even the spectators are expected to dress up a little.
NMEYER	2011-12-16 08:55 AM
I was a young student and model at the La Belle Agency when I was 16 (1967). Although I was a disciplined Marymount High School student, the eldest of five children with a tremendous amount of responsibility (our father died when I was 12)...I was very shy and lacked self-confidence. Betty Mazetti Hatch, the founder of La Belle and my mentor, inspired me and all of her students to develop a wonderful sense of self-esteem. We learned how to respect and enhance our appearance, our sense of style and most importantly our own exceptional value as individuals and responsible young women. Betty is one of the most beautiful and authentic women our community has ever known. After retiring from La Belle in 1980, she established the La Belle Self Esteem Learning Foundation (www.selfesteem.org). - and has dedicated her life to this meaningful and generous endeavor. In 1980 my sisters and I opened Skin Deep in the San Roque Plaza. I often think of Betty when I work with our young employees and customers of all ages. The gifts I learned from her are those that I try to share with others to this day. We have a fun and relaxed environment for young girls and women to learn about cosmetics and skincare - as we offer clean, pure, and cruelty-free professional lines that are healthy and good for our skin. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to express my heartfelt appreciation for La Belle and Betty Hatch. This quote from her foundation website says it all... "Beauty is truth, truth beauty, That is all ye know on earth, And all ye need to know." --Ode to a Grecian Urn--Keats
COMMENT 241510P	2011-12-16 09:22 AM
My 2 cents: My parents taught us that "if you show respect, you get respect" Grooming, dressing, hygene, etiquette...are all displays of respect; both for yourself and others you meet and work with. It doesnt matter if you are beautiful or plain, if you expend effort on how you present yourself, it shows and people will respect you and appreciate it and want to be around you. There is nothing wrong with classes on these things for girls or boys, and I hope the OP finds someone to help her young friend. For you boys/men and girls/women out there who laugh at these things, don't. If you want to meet "quality" people in your life, its just common sense to pay attention to how you present yourself everyday. I am older now but when younger, it was all the rage to "do your own thing" and my parents wouldnt allow it. Later on after high school my "hippie" friends had all kinds of trouble with getting jobs and relationships, and us boring straightlaced folks did not.
COMMENT 241684	2011-12-16 06:15 PM
510P yes there is some truth to this by my experience in this day in age is I more often get jealousy as a reaction especially from women as there are so many women (or men) that practice what you have suggested this there spread their low self esteem like a poison. People with confidence and self esteem seem to threaten a lot of people these days because they are reminded of either how lazy they are, ill mannered or both. The latter being the usual.
COMMENT 241742	2011-12-17 08:44 AM
Ahhh cotillion days. I'm old enough to have watched my older brother take lessons from the senior Martines. My memory is of really cute, well dressed girls, and the pleasure of holding them in my arms! The added bonus was at the end of the evening, at home, finding a pair af petite white gloves in jacket pocket, unreturned after the refreshment break. If your kid ends up in polite company in an upscale social situation, knowing which fork to use, or rather, not having to fumble and feel like a bumpkin is immeasurable. If your kid is insecure about her looks, makeup is but a small part of the solution. Accepting who she is comes first. Learning how to be her best is next.